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Robert Lieblich
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| Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:48 pm
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On today's episode of "Says You" (an American public radio show in the
same general vein as the late, lamented "My Word"), one of the
bluffing rounds used the word "dbandba." It turned out to mean "a
word with two coequal constitutents," like "socio-economic" or
"bittersweet." It was news to me.
I can't find the word in Webster's Third, Google brings up nothing in
English, and onelook also strikes out. Any help out there from the
OED (which I can't access) or otherwise?
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Bob Lieblich
Surprisingly, no one brought up Ritchie Valens
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Laura F. Spira
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:08 am
Post subject: Re: dbandba |
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Robert Lieblich wrote:
| Quote: | On today's episode of "Says You" (an American public radio show in the
same general vein as the late, lamented "My Word"), one of the
bluffing rounds used the word "dbandba." It turned out to mean "a
word with two coequal constitutents," like "socio-economic" or
"bittersweet." It was news to me.
I can't find the word in Webster's Third, Google brings up nothing in
English, and onelook also strikes out. Any help out there from the
OED (which I can't access) or otherwise?
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Nothing in OED.
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Laura
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John Dean
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:11 am
Post subject: Re: dbandba |
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Robert Lieblich wrote:
| Quote: | On today's episode of "Says You" (an American public radio show in the
same general vein as the late, lamented "My Word"), one of the
bluffing rounds used the word "dbandba." It turned out to mean "a
word with two coequal constitutents," like "socio-economic" or
"bittersweet." It was news to me.
I can't find the word in Webster's Third, Google brings up nothing in
English, and onelook also strikes out. Any help out there from the
OED (which I can't access) or otherwise?
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Nothing in OED. Even under < "db" and "ba" > a la "Dord".
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John Dean
Oxford
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Wood Avens
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:16 am
Post subject: Re: dbandba |
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On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 19:11:22 +0100, "John Dean"
<john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Robert Lieblich wrote:
On today's episode of "Says You" (an American public radio show in the
same general vein as the late, lamented "My Word"), one of the
bluffing rounds used the word "dbandba." It turned out to mean "a
word with two coequal constitutents," like "socio-economic" or
"bittersweet." It was news to me.
I can't find the word in Webster's Third, Google brings up nothing in
English, and onelook also strikes out. Any help out there from the
OED (which I can't access) or otherwise?
Nothing in OED. Even under < "db" and "ba" > a la "Dord".
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Are you sure "dbandba" is the spelling? That is, they spelled it out,
did they? (How was it pronounced?)
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Katy Jennison
spamtrap: remove the first two letters after the @ |
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Robert Lieblich
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:36 am
Post subject: Re: dbandba |
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Wood Avens wrote:
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On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 19:11:22 +0100, "John Dean"
john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote:
Robert Lieblich wrote:
On today's episode of "Says You" (an American public radio show in the
same general vein as the late, lamented "My Word"), one of the
bluffing rounds used the word "dbandba." It turned out to mean "a
word with two coequal constitutents," like "socio-economic" or
"bittersweet." It was news to me.
I can't find the word in Webster's Third, Google brings up nothing in
English, and onelook also strikes out. Any help out there from the
OED (which I can't access) or otherwise?
Nothing in OED. Even under < "db" and "ba" > a la "Dord".
Are you sure "dbandba" is the spelling? That is, they spelled it out,
did they? (How was it pronounced?)
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They spelled it out, they did. I don't do ASCII phonetics, but this
approximates the pronunciation: d@-BAND-bah. I'm positive of the
initial "db."
I may email them and ask where they get such words.
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Bob Lieblich
Curiouser and moreso |
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Richard Maurer
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 1:34 am
Post subject: Re: dbandba |
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Robert Lieblich wrote:
On today's episode of "Says You" (an American public radio
show in the same general vein as the late,
lamented "My Word"), one of the bluffing rounds used
the word "dbandba." It turned out to mean "a word with
two coequal constitutents," like "socio-economic" or
"bittersweet." It was news to me.
I can't find the word in Webster's Third,
Google brings up nothing in English, and onelook
also strikes out. Any help out there from the
OED (which I can't access) or otherwise?
There is something to be found with the alternative spellings
dvandva or dvandra which are from the Sanskrit for "pairs".
http://solasanlae.focalfactory.biz/snar/ga.php
has something on the subject but does not appear nicely
in my antique browser.
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Richard Maurer To reply, remove half
Sunnyvale, California of a homonym of a synonym for also.
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Robert Lieblich
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:07 am
Post subject: Re: dbandba |
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Richard Maurer wrote:
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Robert Lieblich wrote:
On today's episode of "Says You" (an American public radio
show in the same general vein as the late,
lamented "My Word"), one of the bluffing rounds used
the word "dbandba." It turned out to mean "a word with
two coequal constitutents," like "socio-economic" or
"bittersweet." It was news to me.
I can't find the word in Webster's Third,
Google brings up nothing in English, and onelook
also strikes out. Any help out there from the
OED (which I can't access) or otherwise?
There is something to be found with the alternative spellings
dvandva or dvandra which are from the Sanskrit for "pairs".
http://solasanlae.focalfactory.biz/snar/ga.php
has something on the subject but does not appear nicely
in my antique browser.
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I guess I need to get my hearing worked on. I plugged "dvandva" into
Google, and it confirmed the meaning. Sorry for the false alarm.
Well, it's not a total loss. We can now intrude "dvandva" every time
someone writes "bittersweet."
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Bob Lieblich
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John Dean
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 4:39 am
Post subject: Re: dbandba |
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Robert Lieblich wrote:
| Quote: | Richard Maurer wrote:
Robert Lieblich wrote:
On today's episode of "Says You" (an American public radio
show in the same general vein as the late,
lamented "My Word"), one of the bluffing rounds used
the word "dbandba." It turned out to mean "a word with
two coequal constitutents," like "socio-economic" or
"bittersweet." It was news to me.
I can't find the word in Webster's Third,
Google brings up nothing in English, and onelook
also strikes out. Any help out there from the
OED (which I can't access) or otherwise?
There is something to be found with the alternative spellings
dvandva or dvandra which are from the Sanskrit for "pairs".
http://solasanlae.focalfactory.biz/snar/ga.php
has something on the subject but does not appear nicely
in my antique browser.
I guess I need to get my hearing worked on. I plugged "dvandva" into
Google, and it confirmed the meaning. Sorry for the false alarm.
Well, it's not a total loss. We can now intrude "dvandva" every time
someone writes "bittersweet."
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And OED amplifies a little:
dvandva Also dwandwa. [Skr. dvandvá, the repeated nom. of dva pair,
couple.]
In full dvandva compound. A compound word in which the elements are
related to each other as if joined by a copula.
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John Dean
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Graeme Thomas
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:46 am
Post subject: Re: dbandba |
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In article <42F4F7EC.525AC5F0@verizon.net>, Robert Lieblich
<robert.lieblich@verizon.net> writes
| Quote: | On today's episode of "Says You" (an American public radio show in the
same general vein as the late, lamented "My Word"), one of the
bluffing rounds used the word "dbandba." It turned out to mean "a
word with two coequal constitutents," like "socio-economic" or
"bittersweet." It was news to me.
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As others have noted, it's "dvandva".
For reasons that no one has been able to explain, 19th century English
grammarians chose Sanscrit words to name the various types of compound
words in English. Each Sanscrit word was an example of the type of
compound it named. I have only been able to discover two others:
bahuvrihi and tatpurusha.
A bahuvrihi is a class of compound words in which the first element
governs or describes the second but the qualified element cannot be
substituted for the whole, eg turncoat, hunhback, bluestocking. Bahu
vrihi is literally "much rice", but the word actually means a rich man.
A dvandva is a compound in whih each element is equal.
A tatpurusha is a compound in which the first element modifies the
second by standing next to it is various types of relationship, eg
goatskin, fieldmouse, guitar-player, man-made. The word means "his
servant".
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Richard Maurer
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:57 am
Post subject: Re: dbandba |
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Graeme Thomas wrote:
For reasons that no one has been able to explain,
19th century English grammarians chose Sanscrit words
to name the various types of compound words in English.
Each Sanscrit word was an example of the type of
compound it named. I have only been able to discover
two others: bahuvrihi and tatpurusha.
It could be that Sanskrit grammarians had developed
the classification scheme long before;
English grammar didn't have a good one;
so the English grammarians took the scheme and the names.
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Richard Maurer To reply, remove half
Sunnyvale, California of a homonym of a synonym for also.
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