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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 3:59 am
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The word engine seems to have changed a bit through time and a lathe
powered by man power has been around very long too. Today we call all
metal cutting lathes "engine lathes"
How did the term "engine lathe" come about? |
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ray o'hara
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 5:53 am
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<h1breview@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | The word engine seems to have changed a bit through time and a lathe
powered by man power has been around very long too. Today we call all
metal cutting lathes "engine lathes"
How did the term "engine lathe" come about?
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An engine is a mechanical device,it is the term motor, which originally
meant an electrical device that has changed.. |
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 8:17 pm
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There are many opinions on the origin of the term "engine lathe"
The lathe has been around a millennium longer than steam or other
generated power.
Opinion one: Engine lathe means a lathe powered by an engine (this
would include steam, electrical, etc)
Opinion two: Engine lathe means it had its own engine (as an electric
motor)
Opinion three: It means a big lathe (the ancient meaning of the word
"engine" being a really big machine)
Opinion four: It is a machine capable of turning a screw automatically.
Does anyone have a history of this term?
H1
ray o'hara wrote:
| Quote: | h1breview@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1115243953.835281.119000@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
The word engine seems to have changed a bit through time and a
lathe
powered by man power has been around very long too. Today we call
all
metal cutting lathes "engine lathes"
How did the term "engine lathe" come about?
An engine is a mechanical device,it is the term motor, which
originally
meant an electrical device that has changed.. |
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John C
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 8:48 pm
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I think historically the term "engine lathe" was used to distinguish engine
powered lathes from human powered lathes.
The power can come through belts and pulleys from a centrally located steam
engine.
John
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| Quote: | The word engine seems to have changed a bit through time and a lathe
powered by man power has been around very long too. Today we call all
metal cutting lathes "engine lathes"
How did the term "engine lathe" come about?
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Roland Hutchinson
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:32 am
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ray o'hara wrote:
| Quote: | An engine is a mechanical device,it is the term motor, which originally
meant an electrical device that has changed..
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For "originally" read "earlier".
Originally, "motor" meant anything that imparts motion -- from the Primum
Mobile of the Ptolemaic universe (possibly identified with the Creator) to
pneumatic devices in 19th- and 20th-century pipe organs (or the similar
thing that thwacks the drum on a carousel's orchestrion), to the bits of
our muscles that do the twitching when the nerves say "go"!
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Roland Hutchinson Will play viola da gamba for food.
NB mail to my.spamtrap [at] verizon.net is heavily filtered to
remove spam. If your message looks like spam I may not see it. |
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Ray Heindl
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 1:57 am
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h1breview@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | The word engine seems to have changed a bit through time and a lathe
powered by man power has been around very long too. Today we call all
metal cutting lathes "engine lathes"
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Is this a Rightpondian term? I've never heard the term "engine lathe"
in reference to an ordinary metal-cutting lathe. To me the term evokes
the fancy spirograph-like patterns on old watches and the like, though
those were made by "rose engines", according to the RHUD.
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Ray Heindl
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Harvey Van Sickle
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 2:06 am
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On 05 May 2005, Ray Heindl wrote
| Quote: | h1breview@yahoo.com wrote:
The word engine seems to have changed a bit through time and a
lathe powered by man power has been around very long too. Today
we call all metal cutting lathes "engine lathes"
Is this a Rightpondian term?
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Not as far as I know: the statement that "Today we call..." evoked the
immediate reaction of "who we"?
| Quote: | I've never heard the term "engine
lathe" in reference to an ordinary metal-cutting lathe.
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Ditto and all that.
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Cheers, Harvey
Canada for 30 years; S England since 1982.
(for e-mail, change harvey.news to harvey.van) |
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John C
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 7:10 am
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"Ray Heindl" <vortren-newsx@yaxhoo.com> wrote ..
| Quote: | h1breview@yahoo.com wrote:
The word engine seems to have changed a bit through time and a lathe
powered by man power has been around very long too. Today we call all
metal cutting lathes "engine lathes"
Is this a Rightpondian term? I've never heard the term "engine lathe"
in reference to an ordinary metal-cutting lathe. To me the term evokes
the fancy spirograph-like patterns on old watches and the like, though
those were made by "rose engines", according to the RHUD.
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"Engine lathe" is of course an old fashion term. But machine tool
manufacturers, especially US ones, sometimes still call and sell them by
this name. The more modern name is "metal lathe". "Metal cutting lathe"
is a more correct formal name, but is less often used than just the short
form "metal lathe".
I notice from Google, "engine lathe" gives me about 25,000 hits, "metal
lathe" gives me 40,000, while "metal cutting lathe" only gives me 500 hits.
John
retired mechanical engineer |
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Ross Howard
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 3:33 pm
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On Fri, 6 May 2005 09:40:53 +0800, "John C" <nothing@starhub.net.sg>
wrought:
| Quote: | "Engine lathe" is of course an old fashion term.
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That's a well reason argument.
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TakenEvent
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| Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 12:42 am
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<h1breview@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1115243953.835281.119000@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | The word engine seems to have changed a bit through time and a lathe
powered by man power has been around very long too. Today we call all
metal cutting lathes "engine lathes"
How did the term "engine lathe" come about?
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Engine lathes are used to make cylinders in chunks of metal, which in turn
are used to house pistons. Also. Metal lathes are called metal lathes in
catalogs and other places. I don't think it's "today" that we call all
metal cutting lathes "engine lathes." |
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Ray Heindl
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| Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 3:46 am
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"John C" <nothing@starhub.net.sg> wrote:
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"Ray Heindl" <vortren-newsx@yaxhoo.com> wrote ..
h1breview@yahoo.com wrote:
The word engine seems to have changed a bit through time and a
lathe powered by man power has been around very long too. Today
we call all metal cutting lathes "engine lathes"
Is this a Rightpondian term? I've never heard the term "engine
lathe" in reference to an ordinary metal-cutting lathe. To me
the term evokes the fancy spirograph-like patterns on old watches
and the like, though those were made by "rose engines", according
to the RHUD.
"Engine lathe" is of course an old fashion term. But machine tool
manufacturers, especially US ones, sometimes still call and sell
them by this name. The more modern name is "metal lathe".
"Metal cutting lathe" is a more correct formal name, but is less
often used than just the short form "metal lathe".
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Do they specifically mean a metal-cutting lathe, as opposed to just one
that's engine- or motor-driven? Come to think of it, are wood-turning
lathes made by machine tool manufacturers?
| Quote: | I notice from Google, "engine lathe" gives me about 25,000 hits,
"metal lathe" gives me 40,000, while "metal cutting lathe" only
gives me 500 hits.
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Maybe it's analogous to "automobile" in the US; no ordinary person uses
the term, but in the Yellow Pages that's what they're called. I've
never dealt with a machine-tool manufacturer, but to the users in
machine shops they're just "lathes".
According to the OED, an engine lathe is just a lathe run by an engine.
Given how scarce non-engine-driven lathes are, the term seems a bit
redundant.
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Ray Heindl
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