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claudia
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:10 pm
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Good evening.
Does any of you know the meaning of "vessel or line"?
(the document is about food processing and maintenance of cleanliness standards in a food plant) here's some context:
"Cleaning procedures must include requirements for maintenance of cleanliness if vessel or line is not immediately used"
I'm trying to translate it, I looked those words up in several dictionaries, but still can't get their meaning, vessel seeming to mean "large boat / vein / ancient roman container" and ...it's even worse with "line"!
Thank you.
Claudia
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Louise Waldron
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:23 pm
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Hi Claudia,
I think it means vessel as in container, in this case what food is kept in and line and in production line. I would imagine the whole thing means that food production containers and production lines should have procedures in place to keep them clean even if they are not being used in the immediate future. Horribly worded sentence though....
Hope this helps,
Louise.
"claudia" <criceti@criceti.it> wrote in message news:VB%Ud.604818$b5.27633919@news3.tin.it...
Good evening.
Does any of you know the meaning of "vessel or line"?
(the document is about food processing and maintenance of cleanliness standards in a food plant) here's some context:
"Cleaning procedures must include requirements for maintenance of cleanliness if vessel or line is not immediately used"
I'm trying to translate it, I looked those words up in several dictionaries, but still can't get their meaning, vessel seeming to mean "large boat / vein / ancient roman container" and ...it's even worse with "line"!
Thank you.
Claudia |
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Mike Stevens
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:25 pm
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claudia wrote:
| Quote: | Good evening.
Does any of you know the meaning of "vessel or line"?
(the document is about food processing and maintenance of cleanliness
standards in a food plant) here's some context:
"Cleaning procedures must include requirements for maintenance of
cleanliness if vessel or line is not immediately used"
I'm trying to translate it, I looked those words up in several
dictionaries, but still can't get their meaning, vessel seeming to
mean "large boat / vein / ancient roman container" and ...it's even
worse with "line"!
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"Vessel" can also mean any sort of container.
The only relevant context in which I've come across the word "line" is in
the (UK) pub trade where it is used to describe the tubing etc through which
draught beer is drawn from the cask to the beer-pump. I can envisage
analogous equipment ina a food plant.
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Mike Stevens
narrowboat Felis Catus II
Web site www.mike-stevens.co.uk
No man is an island. So is Man.
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Peter Duncanson
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:26 pm
Post subject: Re: vessel and line |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 15:10:45 GMT, "claudia" <criceti@criceti.it> wrote:
| Quote: | Good evening.
Does any of you know the meaning of "vessel or line"?
(the document is about food processing and maintenance of cleanliness standards in a food plant) here's some context:
"Cleaning procedures must include requirements for maintenance of cleanliness if vessel or line is not immediately used"
I'm trying to translate it, I looked those words up in several dictionaries, but still can't get their meaning, vessel seeming to mean "large boat / vein / ancient roman container" and ...it's even worse with "line"!
My immediate reaction is that: |
1. vessel = a container for foodstuff or ingredients,
2. line = a production line - the series of machines that process the
ingredients to create the final product. The 'line' may have positions at
which there is human intervention.
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Peter Duncanson
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Dave Fawthrop
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:27 pm
Post subject: Re: vessel and line |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 15:10:45 GMT, "claudia" <criceti@criceti.it> wrote:
| Good evening.
| Does any of you know the meaning of "vessel or line"?
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| (the document is about food processing and maintenance of cleanliness standards in a food plant) here's some context:
| "Cleaning procedures must include requirements for maintenance of cleanliness if vessel or line is not immediately used"
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| I'm trying to translate it, I looked those words up in several dictionaries, but still can't get their meaning, vessel seeming to mean "large boat / vein / ancient roman container" and ...it's even worse with "line"!
"Vessel" must be a large pan or stainless steel tub, these can be huge in a
food plant.
http://www.foodprocessing-technology.com/projects/grupo/grupo2.html
"line" is short for "production line", which is a sequence of machines,
tables, etc
http://www.clima.org.cn/english_news_html/articles/climaproduct/333.html
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claudia
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:01 pm
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thanks to everybody, It's clear now!
Claudia |
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John of Aix
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:24 am
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Louise Waldron wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Claudia,
I think it means vessel as in container, in this case what food is
kept in and line and in production line. I would imagine the whole
thing means that food production containers and production lines
should have procedures in place to keep them clean even if they are
not being used in the immediate future. Horribly worded sentence
though....
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I agree, I read it that way too. |
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John
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:31 pm
Post subject: Re: vessel and line |
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Mike Stevens wrote...
| Quote: | claudia wrote:
(the document is about food processing and maintenance of cleanliness
standards in a food plant) here's some context:
"Cleaning procedures must include requirements for maintenance of
cleanliness if vessel or line is not immediately used"
"Vessel" can also mean any sort of container.
The only relevant context in which I've come across the word "line" is in
the (UK) pub trade where it is used to describe the tubing etc through which
draught beer is drawn from the cask to the beer-pump. I can envisage
analogous equipment ina a food plant.
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That's how I read it. "vessel or line"
The quote seems to be referring to a piece of equipment, which I suppose
could be thought of as part of the 'production line', but is more likely
to be "not immediately used" than a whole production line.
vessel - container
line -
for moving liquids, sometimes reinforced and not bendy. tube, hose.
liquid feed. The opposite of a drain. Can be used to fill vessels.
brake line, fuel line, pipeline, arterial line, beer line |
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claudia
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:25 pm
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That's how I read it. "vessel or line"
The quote seems to be referring to a piece of equipment, which I suppose
could be thought of as part of the 'production line', but is more likely
to be "not immediately used" than a whole production line.
vessel - container
line -
for moving liquids, sometimes reinforced and not bendy. tube, hose.
liquid feed. The opposite of a drain. Can be used to fill vessels.
brake line, fuel line, pipeline, arterial line, beer line
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so, you think it could be both a "production line" and a kind of "hose"...
do you think people who wrote the sentence I reported are english speakers?
thank you.
Claudia. |
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John Briggs
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:52 am
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claudia wrote:
| Quote: | That's how I read it. "vessel or line"
The quote seems to be referring to a piece of equipment, which I
suppose could be thought of as part of the 'production line', but is
more likely to be "not immediately used" than a whole production
line. vessel - container
line -
for moving liquids, sometimes reinforced and not bendy. tube, hose.
liquid feed. The opposite of a drain. Can be used to fill vessels.
brake line, fuel line, pipeline, arterial line, beer line
so, you think it could be both a "production line" and a kind of
"hose"... do you think people who wrote the sentence I reported are
english speakers?
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You didn't give enough context - it is probably quite clear in context.
"Vessel" is usually used in a phrase such as "fermentation vessel", and
"line" would be quite appropriate for the piping connecting such pieces of
equipment. (Air line, supply line, etc.)
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claudia
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:21 am
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You didn't give enough context - it is probably quite clear in context.
"Vessel" is usually used in a phrase such as "fermentation vessel", and
"line" would be quite appropriate for the piping connecting such pieces of
equipment. (Air line, supply line, etc.)
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John Briggs
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as a matter of fact there isn't much more context!
the whole document is made of key points, isolated from each other! a single
point has almost nothing to do with the previous or the following, one may
be about food saftey, the other about how to build a plant!
Claudia. |
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k1llerakum
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:04 pm
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Sounds like a piece of good old fashioned English blurb to me so yes Claudia
i think whoever wrote it was a native English speaker i don't think anyone
who speaks English as a second language would have come up with such a
strange way of phrasing what they were trying to say.
"claudia" <criceti@criceti.it> wrote in message
news:HunVd.609809$b5.27808699@news3.tin.it...
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You didn't give enough context - it is probably quite clear in context.
"Vessel" is usually used in a phrase such as "fermentation vessel", and
"line" would be quite appropriate for the piping connecting such pieces
of
equipment. (Air line, supply line, etc.)
--
John Briggs
as a matter of fact there isn't much more context!
the whole document is made of key points, isolated from each other! a
single
point has almost nothing to do with the previous or the following, one may
be about food saftey, the other about how to build a plant!
Claudia.
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Dave Fawthrop
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| Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:31 am
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On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:04:09 -0000, "k1llerakum" <l.m.waldron@lboro.ac.uk>
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| Sounds like a piece of good old fashioned English blurb to me so yes Claudia
| i think whoever wrote it was a native English speaker i don't think anyone
| who speaks English as a second language would have come up with such a
| strange way of phrasing what they were trying to say.
That is a thought.
It may be "management speak" which has little relationship to English.
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Dave F |
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