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iwasaki
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| Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 6:00 pm
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"Parking facility" could mean either a multilevel parking garage
or a parking lot?
And, does any of them (parking facility, a multilevel parking
garage, and a parking lot) imply that they take money for parking?
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Tony Cooper
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| Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 6:01 pm
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 00:21:14 +0900, "iwasaki"
<pianoforteforte@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> wrote:
| Quote: | "Parking facility" could mean either a multilevel parking garage
or a parking lot?
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It's most likely to mean a multilevel garage, but it wouldn't be wrong
to call a parking lot a parking facility. The word "facility" implies
some physical structure, but does not demand it.
| Quote: | And, does any of them (parking facility, a multilevel parking
garage, and a parking lot) imply that they take money for parking?
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Again, it's most likely to mean a place where you pay to park, but it
isn't wrong to use it to mean a place where parking is free.
A parking facility is just a place where cars can be parked. There's
nothing in the term itself to mean that the place is multilevel or a
paved lot, and nothing in the term itself to mean there is or is not a
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John Seeliger
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| Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 6:01 pm
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"Tony Cooper" <tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 00:21:14 +0900, "iwasaki"
pianoforteforte@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> wrote:
"Parking facility" could mean either a multilevel parking garage
or a parking lot?
It's most likely to mean a multilevel garage, but it wouldn't be wrong
to call a parking lot a parking facility. The word "facility" implies
some physical structure, but does not demand it.
And, does any of them (parking facility, a multilevel parking
garage, and a parking lot) imply that they take money for parking?
Again, it's most likely to mean a place where you pay to park, but it
isn't wrong to use it to mean a place where parking is free.
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It could just be that you work there. One of there places I worked had a
multilevel parking garage, activated by our badge. Unless money was
secretly deducted from our paychecks, there was no cost to park there.
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Bill Bonde ( ``And the La
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| Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:01 pm
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Tony Cooper wrote:
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 00:21:14 +0900, "iwasaki"
pianoforteforte@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> wrote:
"Parking facility" could mean either a multilevel parking garage
or a parking lot?
It's most likely to mean a multilevel garage, but it wouldn't be wrong
to call a parking lot a parking facility. The word "facility" implies
some physical structure, but does not demand it.
And, does any of them (parking facility, a multilevel parking
garage, and a parking lot) imply that they take money for parking?
Again, it's most likely to mean a place where you pay to park, but it
isn't wrong to use it to mean a place where parking is free.
A parking facility is just a place where cars can be parked. There's
nothing in the term itself to mean that the place is multilevel or a
paved lot, and nothing in the term itself to mean there is or is not a
fee charged.
People would laugh if you can a dirt field a 'parking facility'. |
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So I was feeding the hummingbirds but not changing the feeder sugar
water quickly enough and it fermented into something like that stuff
that Hunter S Thompson was drinking in the Rum Diary, anyway, so I had
these drunk birds flying everywhere just like mosquitoes in Minnesota,
dashing up one side of me, darting down the other, crashing into the
windows, falling off their perches, didn't even know they perched,
flying backwards, flying backwards, it was like something out of the
Exorcist. After a while though, I got bored with it all. Next Summer I'm
going to Alaska to feed french bread soaked in Wild Turkey to polar
bears. Wish me luck! |
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Mark Brader
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 12:00 am
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Tony Cooper:
| Quote: | A parking facility is just a place where cars can be parked. There's
nothing in the term itself to mean that the place is multilevel or a
paved lot, and nothing in the term itself to mean there is or is not a
fee charged.
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Bill Bonde:
| Quote: | People would laugh if you [called] a dirt field a 'parking facility'.
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True in some contexts, but you wouldn't be wrong.
Possibly funny:
"Please park in the parking facility."
"What facility?"
"The field, there."
Not funny:
"To comply with the bylaws, you need a parking facility with
space for 25 cars."
"We have room for at least 50 on the field, there."
"Fine. Next, you need..."
--
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msb@vex.net | "Do you refuse to answer my question?" "Don't know."
My text in this article is in the public domain. |
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Skitt
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 12:01 am
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Mark Brader wrote:
| Quote: | Tony Cooper:
A parking facility is just a place where cars can be parked.
There's nothing in the term itself to mean that the place is
multilevel or a paved lot, and nothing in the term itself to mean
there is or is not a fee charged.
Bill Bonde:
People would laugh if you [called] a dirt field a 'parking facility'.
True in some contexts, but you wouldn't be wrong.
Possibly funny:
"Please park in the parking facility."
"What facility?"
"The field, there."
Not funny:
"To comply with the bylaws, you need a parking facility with
space for 25 cars."
"We have room for at least 50 on the field, there."
"Fine. Next, you need..."
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Just to cover all AUE "on topic" bases regarding the expression, "parking
facility" can also refer to your skill in placing a vehicle in an
appropriate position for leaving it unattended, but that's a horse of a
different color. Never mind.
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Skitt (in Hayward, California)
www.geocities.com/opus731/ |
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Don Phillipson
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:47 am
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"iwasaki" <pianoforteforte@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:2vmlu7F2nq6a4U1@uni-berlin.de...
| Quote: | "Parking facility" could mean either a multilevel parking garage
or a parking lot?
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Yes.
| Quote: | And, does any of them (parking facility, a multilevel parking
garage, and a parking lot) imply that they take money for parking?
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The language provides no such information.
(This is a matter of local practice i.e. differs
between places where the identical language
is used.) Nowadays most parking costs money
-- but a few towns and institutions take special
pride in offering free parking.
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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada) |
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Bill Bonde ( ``And the La
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 3:00 am
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Don Phillipson wrote:
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"iwasaki" <pianoforteforte@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:2vmlu7F2nq6a4U1@uni-berlin.de...
"Parking facility" could mean either a multilevel parking garage
or a parking lot?
Yes.
And, does any of them (parking facility, a multilevel parking
garage, and a parking lot) imply that they take money for parking?
The language provides no such information.
(This is a matter of local practice i.e. differs
between places where the identical language
is used.) Nowadays most parking costs money
-- but a few towns and institutions take special
pride in offering free parking.
Parking in big cities costs money, if you don't know where you can park. |
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Steve Hayes
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:00 am
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 15:34:11 GMT, Tony Cooper <tony_cooper213@earthlink.net>
wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 00:21:14 +0900, "iwasaki"
pianoforteforte@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> wrote:
"Parking facility" could mean either a multilevel parking garage
or a parking lot?
It's most likely to mean a multilevel garage, but it wouldn't be wrong
to call a parking lot a parking facility. The word "facility" implies
some physical structure, but does not demand it.
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As I understand it, "facility" in this context means something that can be
used for the stated purpose, if one chooses to do so.
A parking facility can be used to park a vehicle, an overdraft facility can be
used for borrowing money from the bank, and so on.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
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Tony Cooper
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:00 am
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 03:19:34 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes)
wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 15:34:11 GMT, Tony Cooper <tony_cooper213@earthlink.net
wrote:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 00:21:14 +0900, "iwasaki"
pianoforteforte@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> wrote:
"Parking facility" could mean either a multilevel parking garage
or a parking lot?
It's most likely to mean a multilevel garage, but it wouldn't be wrong
to call a parking lot a parking facility. The word "facility" implies
some physical structure, but does not demand it.
As I understand it, "facility" in this context means something that can be
used for the stated purpose, if one chooses to do so.
A parking facility can be used to park a vehicle, an overdraft facility can be
used for borrowing money from the bank, and so on.
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Perhaps this is a pondial thing, but when "facility" appears in the US
it usually has to do with some sort of physical construction or
tangible item. If a company brags about its new facilities, the
company is referring to a building or factory. Some refer to the
toilet as "the facilities". We describe buildings as a manufacturing
facility or a waste-water facility and so on.
I don't think we refer to functions as facilities as you do with
"overdraft facility". We may, but they just don't come to mind.
We also use the separate "aptitude" or "ease of use" meanings of
facility as in "He has a great facility for grasping the larger
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Lars Eighner
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 9:00 am
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In our last episode, <2vmlu7F2nq6a4U1@uni-berlin.de>, the lovely and
talented iwasaki broadcast on alt.usage.english:
| Quote: | "Parking facility" could mean either a multilevel parking garage
or a parking lot?
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Most people will think first that this is a building or part
of a building, either above or below ground. It would not be
wrong, but perhaps pretentious, to call a parking lot a parking
facility.
| Quote: | And, does any of them (parking facility, a multilevel parking
garage, and a parking lot) imply that they take money for parking?
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"Parking facility" does not in itself imply that there is a charge
for parking, but in American cities one expects to pay for parking
one way or another (the fee is often waived if one does business with
certain merchants or professionals).
--
Lars Eighner -finger for geek code- eighner@io.com http://www.io.com/~eighner/
"The very essence of the creative is its novelty, and hence we have no
standard by which to judge it." --Carl R. Rogers, On Becoming a Person |
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Charles Riggs
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 14:47:10 -0500, "Don Phillipson"
<d.phillipson@ttrryytteell.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Nowadays most parking costs money
-- but a few towns and institutions take special
pride in offering free parking.
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True, but I'd had have written the sentence in a less dashing way. A
colon or even the lowly comma would do nicely there, I'd think.
--
Charles Riggs
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Steve Hayes
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| Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:01 pm
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 04:49:49 GMT, Tony Cooper <tony_cooper213@earthlink.net>
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| Quote: | On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 03:19:34 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes)
wrote:
On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 15:34:11 GMT, Tony Cooper <tony_cooper213@earthlink.net
wrote:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 00:21:14 +0900, "iwasaki"
pianoforteforte@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> wrote:
"Parking facility" could mean either a multilevel parking garage
or a parking lot?
It's most likely to mean a multilevel garage, but it wouldn't be wrong
to call a parking lot a parking facility. The word "facility" implies
some physical structure, but does not demand it.
As I understand it, "facility" in this context means something that can be
used for the stated purpose, if one chooses to do so.
A parking facility can be used to park a vehicle, an overdraft facility can be
used for borrowing money from the bank, and so on.
Perhaps this is a pondial thing, but when "facility" appears in the US
it usually has to do with some sort of physical construction or
tangible item. If a company brags about its new facilities, the
company is referring to a building or factory. Some refer to the
toilet as "the facilities". We describe buildings as a manufacturing
facility or a waste-water facility and so on.
I don't think we refer to functions as facilities as you do with
"overdraft facility". We may, but they just don't come to mind.
We also use the separate "aptitude" or "ease of use" meanings of
facility as in "He has a great facility for grasping the larger
picture."
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The toilet facilities still make it easier to do something - wash your face,
brush your hear, "adjust your dress".
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
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