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Django Cat
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:21 pm    Post subject: Put a cork in it: how to speak RP. Reply with quote
People who are interested in posh talk might want to look at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4166036.stm innit?

Though the reporter sounds like a prat.

DC
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Steve Howarth
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Put a cork in it: how to speak RP. Reply with quote
"Django Cat" <nospam@please> wrote in message
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Quote:
People who are interested in posh talk might want to look at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4166036.stm innit?

Though the reporter sounds like a prat.

.... and displays the ever-increasing (sadly) tendency to pronounce "s" as

"sch". Schtrike, schtreet.

Steve Howarth
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FB
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Put a cork in it: how to speak RP. Reply with quote
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 05:21:40 -0500, Django Cat wrote:

Quote:
People who are interested in posh talk might want to look at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4166036.stm innit?

Though the reporter sounds like a prat.

Speaking of posh accents, the poshest (and a little bit ludicrous) accent
I've ever heard is Alan Pryce Jones' (is he famous?):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/audiointerviews/profilepages/betjemanj1.shtml

Or maybe I should say "vocal attitude", since his accent is not very
different--if at all--from Betjeman's, whose accent I like, conversely.


Bye, FB
--
"Golden orb... The golden orb... The golden orb..."
(Cold Comfort Farm, the film)
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Troy Steadman
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Put a cork in it: how to speak RP. Reply with quote
FB wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 05:21:40 -0500, Django Cat wrote:

People who are interested in posh talk might want to look at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4166036.stm innit?

Though the reporter sounds like a prat.

Speaking of posh accents, the poshest (and a little bit ludicrous) accent
I've ever heard is Alan Pryce Jones' (is he famous?):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/audiointerviews/profilepages/betjemanj1.shtml

Or maybe I should say "vocal attitude", since his accent is not very
different--if at all--from Betjeman's, whose accent I like, conversely.

I agree, and that "Terror at Marlborough" clip, when it eventually
loads, is fascinating. Nigel Molesworth in real life!
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FB
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Put a cork in it: how to speak RP. Reply with quote
On 20 Aug 2005 06:50:27 -0700, Troy Steadman wrote:

[...]
Quote:
I agree, and that "Terror at Marlborough" clip, when it eventually
loads, is fascinating.

OT

Yesterday I was "Another Country", with two very young Rupert Everett and
Colin Firth, which deals with much the same thing: very interesting, too.


Bye, FB
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Io ho deciso di rifiutarmi di vederlo: Ettore con la faccia di Eric Banana
mi fa venire i conati.
(commento sul film "Troy" apparso su it.fan.scrittori.tolkien)
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FB
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Put a cork in it: how to speak RP. Reply with quote
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:04:44 GMT, FB wrote:

Quote:
On 20 Aug 2005 06:50:27 -0700, Troy Steadman wrote:

[...]
I agree, and that "Terror at Marlborough" clip, when it eventually
loads, is fascinating.

OT

Yesterday I was "Another Country",

I meant "saw".


[...]


Bye, FB
--
"Something to take to the country." (holding out a bunch of flowers)
"Flowers come _from_ the country, Charles."
(Cold Comfort Farm, the film)
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Django Cat
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Put a cork in it: how to speak RP. Reply with quote
FB wrote:

Quote:
On 20 Aug 2005 06:50:27 -0700, Troy Steadman wrote:

[...]
I agree, and that "Terror at Marlborough" clip, when it eventually
loads, is fascinating.

OT

Yesterday I was "Another Country", with two very young Rupert Everett
and Colin Firth, which deals with much the same thing: very
interesting, too.


Bye, FB

I went to school with Colin Firth (bog standard sixth-form college) and
can guarentee he didn't speak like that for real.

DC
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Troy Steadman
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Put a cork in it: how to speak RP. Reply with quote
FB wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:04:44 GMT, FB wrote:

On 20 Aug 2005 06:50:27 -0700, Troy Steadman wrote:

[...]
I agree, and that "Terror at Marlborough" clip, when it eventually
loads, is fascinating.

OT

Yesterday I was "Another Country",

I meant "saw".

Don't worry I'm fluent in mirror-writing.
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Mike Lyle
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Put a cork in it: how to speak RP. Reply with quote
Steve Howarth wrote:
Quote:
"Django Cat" <nospam@please> wrote in message
news:cfudnR8jRaGpmZreRVnysQ@brightview.com...
People who are interested in posh talk might want to look at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4166036.stm innit?

Though the reporter sounds like a prat.

... and displays the ever-increasing (sadly) tendency to pronounce
"s" as "sch". Schtrike, schtreet.

Yes, that "shtrip" thing is odd, isn't it? I knew somebody who was
doing it in the seventies and eighties, and I do have an impression
that it's spreading. Once it was used by people trying to write Irish
speech, but I hardly think what we're hearing is of Irish origin.
Where does it come from?

I'm reminded of the Everley Brothers' childish pronunciation: "Jeam,
jeam, jeam..."

--
Mike.
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Areff
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:07 am    Post subject: Re: Put a cork in it: how to speak RP. Reply with quote
Skitt wrote:
Quote:
FB wrote:
Mike Lyle wrote:

[...]
I'm reminded of the Everley Brothers' childish pronunciation: "Jeam,
jeam, jeam..."

"Dream"?

Bye, FB

I could have answered that, but you said "bye", so I assume you left. <g

I tried to get "FB" to not use that "Bye" closer, but he/she wouldn't
listen. Maybe if we told him/her that *RP speakers* wouldn't end a Usenet
posting with "Bye", he/she would pay attention.
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Steve Howarth
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 2:08 am    Post subject: Re: Put a cork in it: how to speak RP. Reply with quote
"Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Steve Howarth wrote:
"Django Cat" <nospam@please> wrote in message
news:cfudnR8jRaGpmZreRVnysQ@brightview.com...
People who are interested in posh talk might want to look at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4166036.stm innit?

Though the reporter sounds like a prat.

... and displays the ever-increasing (sadly) tendency to pronounce
"s" as "sch". Schtrike, schtreet.

Yes, that "shtrip" thing is odd, isn't it? I knew somebody who was
doing it in the seventies and eighties, and I do have an impression
that it's spreading. Once it was used by people trying to write Irish
speech, but I hardly think what we're hearing is of Irish origin.
Where does it come from?


At the risk of being shot down in flames, I've always associated it with 16
year old black girls, not Ireland.

Quote:
I'm reminded of the Everley Brothers' childish pronunciation: "Jeam,
jeam, jeam..."

Ah, yes. Another annoyance.

Steve Howarth
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Mike Lyle
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 2:44 am    Post subject: Re: Put a cork in it: how to speak RP. Reply with quote
Steve Howarth wrote:
Quote:
"Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
[...]


[Re "shtreet"]
Quote:
At the risk of being shot down in flames, I've always associated it
with 16 year old black girls, not Ireland.

Yes, it seems rather that way to me, too. But I think it's more
complicated, somehow. The example I quoted earlier was certainly
white, and from a very white area.
[...]

--
Mike.
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FB
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:05 am    Post subject: Re: Put a cork in it: how to speak RP. Reply with quote
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:51:37 +0100, Mike Lyle wrote:

[...]
Quote:
I'm reminded of the Everley Brothers' childish pronunciation: "Jeam,
jeam, jeam..."

"Dream"?


Bye, FB
--
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people whom we personally
dislike."
("An Ideal Husband", Oscar Wilde)
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Skitt
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:25 am    Post subject: Re: Put a cork in it: how to speak RP. Reply with quote
FB wrote:
Quote:
Mike Lyle wrote:

[...]
I'm reminded of the Everley Brothers' childish pronunciation: "Jeam,
jeam, jeam..."

"Dream"?

Bye, FB

I could have answered that, but you said "bye", so I assume you left. <g>
--
Skitt (in Hayward, California)
www.geocities.com/opus731/
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Adrian Bailey
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 4:01 am    Post subject: Re: Put a cork in it: how to speak RP. Reply with quote
"Steve Howarth" <mail@stevehowarth.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:de73os$c7l$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
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"Django Cat" <nospam@please> wrote in message
news:cfudnR8jRaGpmZreRVnysQ@brightview.com...
People who are interested in posh talk might want to look at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4166036.stm innit?

Though the reporter sounds like a prat.

... and displays the ever-increasing (sadly) tendency to pronounce "s" as
"sch".

You mean "sh"?

Quote:
Schtrike, schtreet.

My wife used to joke about my saying "shpoon"; evidently this quirk is
catching.

Adrian
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