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Bob Cunningham
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:38 am
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Nowadays one sometimes sees "eff" substituted for a certain
offensive word or one of its derivatives, as in "None of
your effing business!", or "Joe was effing his boss's wife".
Since becoming aware of that euphemism, I haven't been as
comfortable with the word "ineffable" as I used to be. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:06 am
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It's the end of the world as we know it, and Bob Cunningham feels...
| Quote: | Nowadays one sometimes sees "eff" substituted for a certain
offensive word or one of its derivatives, as in "None of
your effing business!", or "Joe was effing his boss's wife".
Since becoming aware of that euphemism, I haven't been as
comfortable with the word "ineffable" as I used to be.
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I believe it was Dirk Gently who said something very much along the
lines of "let us seek out the ineffable, and see if we cannot truly eff
it after all".
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"I don't do anything, not one single thing. I used to
bite my nails, but I don't even do that any more."
(attributed to Dorothy Parker)
Web: http://donotuselifts.net/
Email: m [dot] gallagher [at] student [dot] canberra [dot] edu [dot] au |
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M. J. Powell
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:04 am
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In message <mmfua19oml93m0cjkjrhvgovehgp9vlv7g@4ax.com>, Bob Cunningham
<exw6sxq@earthlink.net> writes
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Nowadays one sometimes sees "eff" substituted for a certain
offensive word or one of its derivatives, as in "None of
your effing business!", or "Joe was effing his boss's wife".
Since becoming aware of that euphemism, I haven't been as
comfortable with the word "ineffable" as I used to be.
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What do you think of the town named "Effingham" then?
It's the subject of some ribaldry among railwaymen.
Mike
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M.J.Powell |
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Steve Hayes
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:38 pm
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:38:21 GMT, Bob Cunningham <exw6sxq@earthlink.net>
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Nowadays one sometimes sees "eff" substituted for a certain
offensive word or one of its derivatives, as in "None of
your effing business!", or "Joe was effing his boss's wife".
Since becoming aware of that euphemism, I haven't been as
comfortable with the word "ineffable" as I used to be.
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There was a tagline that said "Scrute the inscrutable, eff the ineffable".
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Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
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CyberCypher
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:58 pm
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Ross Howard wrote:
| Quote: | mike@DeLeTe.pickmere.demon.co.uk> wrought:
[...]
What do you think of the town named "Effingham" then?
Hey, that's where the ancestor of mine* who commanded the fleet**
that defeated the Spanish Armada was from!
(*Not really, although if I were American I'd probably have gone
to considerable lengths and expense to prove that, although
n-times- removedly, he was -- or is that yet another false
stereotype?)
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It's an accurate description of egregiously pretentious Americans, like
one of my cousins who changed his family name from "Frankeˇ¨ to ˇ§von
Franckeˇ¨ and his given name from the American version to the German
version when he discovered that his fatherˇ¦s side of the family was
originally from that town and originally spelt their name that way. For
the rest of us, however, I think the desire to be associated with the
bloodlines European royalty depended only on oneˇ¦s wealth. The heyday
of that sort of nonsense was the 19th and early 20th centuries, when
Americans cared more about their past than about whether there will be
a future.
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Franke: EFL teacher & medical editor
For email, replace numbers with English alphabet. |
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:03 pm
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Steve Hayes filted:
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:38:21 GMT, Bob Cunningham <exw6sxq@earthlink.net
wrote:
Nowadays one sometimes sees "eff" substituted for a certain
offensive word or one of its derivatives, as in "None of
your effing business!", or "Joe was effing his boss's wife".
Since becoming aware of that euphemism, I haven't been as
comfortable with the word "ineffable" as I used to be.
There was a tagline that said "Scrute the inscrutable, eff the ineffable".
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"This is my quest: to follow that star, no matter how hopeless--no matter how
far!"
(Sorry Laura)....r |
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Ross Howard
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:34 pm
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:04:34 +0100, "M. J. Powell"
<mike@DeLeTe.pickmere.demon.co.uk> wrought:
| Quote: | In message <mmfua19oml93m0cjkjrhvgovehgp9vlv7g@4ax.com>, Bob Cunningham
exw6sxq@earthlink.net> writes
Nowadays one sometimes sees "eff" substituted for a certain
offensive word or one of its derivatives, as in "None of
your effing business!", or "Joe was effing his boss's wife".
Since becoming aware of that euphemism, I haven't been as
comfortable with the word "ineffable" as I used to be.
What do you think of the town named "Effingham" then?
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Hey, that's where the ancestor of mine* who commanded the fleet** that
defeated the Spanish Armada was from!
(*Not really, although if I were American I'd probably have gone to
considerable lengths and expense to prove that, although n-times-
removedly, he was -- or is that yet another false stereotype?)
(** Okay, okay, so it was the weather. But he would have commanded
that too if they'd let him.)
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Bob Cunningham
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:17 am
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:04:34 +0100, "M. J. Powell"
<mike@DeLeTe.pickmere.demon.co.uk> said:
| Quote: | In message <mmfua19oml93m0cjkjrhvgovehgp9vlv7g@4ax.com>, Bob Cunningham
exw6sxq@earthlink.net> writes
Nowadays one sometimes sees "eff" substituted for a certain
offensive word or one of its derivatives, as in "None of
your effing business!", or "Joe was effing his boss's wife".
Since becoming aware of that euphemism, I haven't been as
comfortable with the word "ineffable" as I used to be.
What do you think of the town named "Effingham" then?
It's the subject of some ribaldry among railwaymen.
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I should have remembered there's nothing new under the sun.
> Mike |
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Bob G
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:20 am
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I would continue to use "ineffable" without a blush because the proper
variant for the baser meaning is "un"-effable, not "in". |
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Paul Wolff
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:54 am
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In message <33s0b1h0mb8qunu8hmgka0ffoi7ipgm2fk@4ax.com>, Bob Cunningham
<exw6sxq@earthlink.net> writes
| Quote: | On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:04:34 +0100, "M. J. Powell"
mike@DeLeTe.pickmere.demon.co.uk> said:
In message <mmfua19oml93m0cjkjrhvgovehgp9vlv7g@4ax.com>, Bob Cunningham
exw6sxq@earthlink.net> writes
Nowadays one sometimes sees "eff" substituted for a certain
offensive word or one of its derivatives, as in "None of
your effing business!", or "Joe was effing his boss's wife".
Since becoming aware of that euphemism, I haven't been as
comfortable with the word "ineffable" as I used to be.
What do you think of the town named "Effingham" then?
It's the subject of some ribaldry among railwaymen.
I should have remembered there's nothing new under the sun.
Console yourself: there's always something new out of Africa. |
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Paul
In bocca al Lupo! |
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Chris Malcolm
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| Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:03 pm
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M. J. Powell <mike@delete.pickmere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | In message <mmfua19oml93m0cjkjrhvgovehgp9vlv7g@4ax.com>, Bob Cunningham
exw6sxq@earthlink.net> writes
Nowadays one sometimes sees "eff" substituted for a certain
offensive word or one of its derivatives, as in "None of
your effing business!", or "Joe was effing his boss's wife".
Since becoming aware of that euphemism, I haven't been as
comfortable with the word "ineffable" as I used to be.
What do you think of the town named "Effingham" then?
It's the subject of some ribaldry among railwaymen.
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My mother-in-law used the "effing" euphemism with such sternly
disapproving consistency that for much of her young life her daughter
thought that the rudest word in the world was "effing", far ruder than
the common swear words she heard everyday in the street and
schoolyard. It was difficult to explain what was going on when the
family inherited a house in Effingham Road.
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Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] |
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Aokay (David G. Bryce)
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:42 pm
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:38:21 GMT, Bob Cunningham <exw6sxq@earthlink.net>
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Nowadays one sometimes sees "eff" substituted for a certain
offensive word or one of its derivatives, as in "None of
your effing business!", or "Joe was effing his boss's wife".
Since becoming aware of that euphemism, I haven't been as
comfortable with the word "ineffable" as I used to be.
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Hey,Bob, that must be an effing long time.
Seriously, my man, I can't believe you're serious, but, in case you are,
you should be able to cure yourself by repeating 500 times the lines from
T. S. Eliot's 'The Naming of Cats,' found in "Old Possum's Book of
Practical Cats"
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When you notice a cat in profound meditation,
The reason, I tell you, is always the same:
His mind is engaged in a rapt contemplation
Of the thought, of the thought, of the thought of his name:
His ineffable effable
Effanineffable
Deep and inscrutable singular Name.
dgb |
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