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masahiko
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:39 pm
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The following sentence appears in a fiction which depicts the life in
Manila during WWII.
Then come the newer P-38 fighters, escorting Amerikano B-24 liberation
bombers with the Western stars on their sides and their bellies ripe:
What is "Western stars" here? |
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Adrian Bailey
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:36 pm
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"masahiko" <kirikojima@m5.dion.ne.j> wrote in message
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| Quote: | The following sentence appears in a fiction which depicts the life in
Manila during WWII.
Then come the newer P-38 fighters, escorting Amerikano B-24 liberation
bombers with the Western stars on their sides and their bellies ripe:
What is "Western stars" here?
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These, maybe?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USAF_roundel.png
Adrian |
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masahiko
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:14 pm
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"Adrian Bailey" <dadge@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Why are they called " Western "? |
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John Dean
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:19 pm
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masahiko wrote:
Because it was perceived that people in the West portrayed stars
differently from the way they were portrayed in the East?
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John Dean
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Ross Howard
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:19 pm
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:19:14 +0100, "John Dean"
<john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrought:
| Quote: | masahiko wrote:
"Adrian Bailey" <dadge@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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These, maybe?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USAF_roundel.png
Adrian
Why are they called " Western "?
Because it was perceived that people in the West portrayed stars
differently from the way they were portrayed in the East?
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Because they look like sheriff's badges?
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ray o'hara
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:04 pm
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"masahiko" <kirikojima@m5.dion.ne.j> wrote in message
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The U.S.A used a white 5 pointed star as the identifying symbol.
I've never heard of the being called "Western Stars" before and I've
studies WWII extensively.I would imagine the author did so because it is
the symbol of the U.S.A. and we are a western country.
B-24s where called Liberators not Liberations, it was the planes name, all
planes had a name to gowith its numerical designation,P-38s were called
Lightings. |
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Adrian Bailey
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:40 pm
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"Ross Howard" <gguiri@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:19:14 +0100, "John Dean"
john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrought:
masahiko wrote:
"Adrian Bailey" <dadge@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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These, maybe?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USAF_roundel.png
Adrian
Why are they called " Western "?
Because it was perceived that people in the West portrayed stars
differently from the way they were portrayed in the East?
Because they look like sheriff's badges?
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"Look like" might be too strong, but definitely "reminiscent of". "Western"
refers both to the USA's location in the world, and to the cowboy movies
that often feature be-badged sheriffs.
Adrian |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:34 pm
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:40:07 GMT, "Adrian Bailey" <dadge@hotmail.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | "Ross Howard" <gguiri@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:19:14 +0100, "John Dean"
john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrought:
masahiko wrote:
"Adrian Bailey" <dadge@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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These, maybe?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USAF_roundel.png
Adrian
Why are they called " Western "?
Because it was perceived that people in the West portrayed stars
differently from the way they were portrayed in the East?
Because they look like sheriff's badges?
"Look like" might be too strong, but definitely "reminiscent of". "Western"
refers both to the USA's location in the world, and to the cowboy movies
that often feature be-badged sheriffs.
Adrian
Going down the Wiki page quoted to "roundel" I found a fascinating |
image of a fleeing kangaroo (=AusE roo) as seen in a gunsight.
Hiberno-Antipodean insecurity there, wot? |
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Bob Martin
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:35 pm
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in 1148287 20050427 140444 "ray o'hara" <roh@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | B-24s where called Liberators not Liberations, it was the planes name, all
planes had a name to gowith its numerical designation,P-38s were called
Lightings.
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or even, sometimes, Lightnings. |
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Pat Durkin
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:50 am
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"Bob Martin" <bob.martin@excite.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | in 1148287 20050427 140444 "ray o'hara" <roh@comcast.net> wrote:
B-24s where called Liberators not Liberations, it was the planes name,
all
planes had a name to gowith its numerical designation,P-38s were called
Lightings.
or even, sometimes, Lightnings.
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When I was small, and thrilled about the war, we got very specific about
names. These planes had a most romantic name: Lockheed Lightning.
They were actually developed before the war began. |
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Roland Hutchinson
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:03 am
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rbaniste1@shaw.ca wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:40:07 GMT, "Adrian Bailey" <dadge@hotmail.com
wrote:
"Ross Howard" <gguiri@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:19:14 +0100, "John Dean"
john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrought:
masahiko wrote:
"Adrian Bailey" <dadge@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:X2Jbe.62$nX3.47@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
These, maybe?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USAF_roundel.png
Going down the Wiki page quoted to "roundel" I found a fascinating
image of a fleeing kangaroo (=AusE roo) as seen in a gunsight.
Hiberno-Antipodean insecurity there, wot?
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Whereas I found myself wondering what a USAF villanelle might look like.
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Ray Heindl
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:08 am
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Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> wrote:
| Quote: | in 1148287 20050427 140444 "ray o'hara" <roh@comcast.net> wrote:
B-24s where called Liberators not Liberations, it was the planes
name, all planes had a name to gowith its numerical
designation,P-38s were called Lightings.
or even, sometimes, Lightnings.
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Or, all too often, Lightenings.
(About one out of 25 times, according to Google.)
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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:15 am
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Roland Hutchinson wrote:
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| Quote: | Whereas I found myself wondering what a USAF villanelle might look
like.
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Hey-ho, the roundelay!
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Skitt
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:02 am
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ray o'hara wrote:
| Quote: | "masahiko" wrote
"Adrian Bailey" wrote
These, maybe?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USAF_roundel.png
Why are they called " Western "?
The U.S.A used a white 5 pointed star as the identifying symbol.
I've never heard of the being called "Western Stars" before and I've
studies WWII extensively.I would imagine the author did so because
it is the symbol of the U.S.A. and we are a western country.
B-24s where called Liberators not Liberations, it was the planes
name, all planes had a name to gowith its numerical designation,P-38s
were called Lightings.
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Lightnings.
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Skitt (in Hayward, California)
www.geocities.com/opus731/ |
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ray o'hara
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:13 am
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"Skitt" <skitt99@comcast.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | ray o'hara wrote:
"masahiko" wrote
"Adrian Bailey" wrote
These, maybe?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USAF_roundel.png
Why are they called " Western "?
The U.S.A used a white 5 pointed star as the identifying symbol.
I've never heard of the being called "Western Stars" before and I've
studies WWII extensively.I would imagine the author did so because
it is the symbol of the U.S.A. and we are a western country.
B-24s where called Liberators not Liberations, it was the planes
name, all planes had a name to gowith its numerical designation,P-38s
were called Lightings.
Lightnings.
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It was a typo and several others beat you in pointing it out. |
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