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guppy57
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| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:42 pm
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Is there a word for those mispronunciations that arise from being familiar
with a word in its written form, but never having heard it spoken?
For instance, when I was small, I thought that another word for "club" was
"sockee-a-tee", because I'd seen it in the Secret Seven books. Similarly, I
thought that there was a word that was pronounced "mack-hine".
More recently, I heard someone say "appa-croffal" for "apocrophal" and just
today, a friend of mine spoke of his plans going "oar-ree", which I have
just replayed in my head to come up with "awry".
There must be a word for it. If not, can someone suggest a neologism?
(That's nee-oh-logg-ism, by the way). |
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Michael Hamm
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| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:42 pm
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Today, Adrian Bailey <dadge@hotmail.com> gosled:
| Quote: | Round here we call it a "misle", pronounced [mizzle] because so many
of us read "misled" as [mizzled] as children.
I pronounce it with a long i.
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As do I, to rhyme with 'isle'.
Michael Hamm
AM, Math, Wash. U. St. Louis
msh210@math.wustl.edu Fine print:
http://math.wustl.edu/~msh210/ ... legal.html |
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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:57 pm
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guppy57 wrote:
| Quote: | Is there a word for those mispronunciations that arise from being
familiar with a word in its written form, but never having heard it
spoken?
For instance, when I was small, I thought that another word for
"club" was "sockee-a-tee", because I'd seen it in the Secret Seven
books. Similarly, I thought that there was a word that was
pronounced "mack-hine".
More recently, I heard someone say "appa-croffal" for "apocrophal"
and just today, a friend of mine spoke of his plans going
"oar-ree",
which I have just replayed in my head to come up with "awry".
There must be a word for it. If not, can someone suggest a
neologism?
(That's nee-oh-logg-ism, by the way).
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Round here we call it a "misle", pronounced [mizzle] because so many
of us read "misled" as [mizzled] as children. Yes, I once suffered
from "oary", too.
Mike. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:13 pm
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 22:42:48 +1100, "guppy57" <gup@admin.net.au>
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| Quote: | There must be a word for it. If not, can someone suggest a neologism?
(That's nee-oh-logg-ism, by the way).
Rubbish, Gup; that's a J noise, not a GG noise. |
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Donna Richoux
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| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:13 pm
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guppy57 <gup@admin.net.au> wrote:
| Quote: | Is there a word for those mispronunciations that arise from being familiar
with a word in its written form, but never having heard it spoken?
For instance, when I was small, I thought that another word for "club" was
"sockee-a-tee", because I'd seen it in the Secret Seven books. Similarly, I
thought that there was a word that was pronounced "mack-hine".
More recently, I heard someone say "appa-croffal" for "apocrophal"
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There's a Y in there somewhere.
| Quote: | and just
today, a friend of mine spoke of his plans going "oar-ree", which I have
just replayed in my head to come up with "awry".
There must be a word for it. If not, can someone suggest a neologism?
(That's nee-oh-logg-ism, by the way).
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"Mispronunciation"? It's hard to think of anything I would call a
mispronunciation that did not arise in that way: from people having seen
it in print but not heard it, or not heard it often enough to make the
connection. Well, we did talk recently about the case where people
thought there were two words, the regular one and their mispronounced
one, but that's slightly different.
If you learn a word by ear, on the other hand, then variation is a
matter of dialect (to-may-to, to-mah-to). Right?
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Best -- Donna Richoux |
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Adrian Bailey
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| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:16 pm
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"Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:38e1uqF5n1rccU1@individual.net...
| Quote: | guppy57 wrote:
Is there a word for those mispronunciations that arise from being
familiar with a word in its written form, but never having heard it
spoken?
For instance, when I was small, I thought that another word for
"club" was "sockee-a-tee", because I'd seen it in the Secret Seven
books. Similarly, I thought that there was a word that was
pronounced "mack-hine".
More recently, I heard someone say "appa-croffal" for "apocrophal"
and just today, a friend of mine spoke of his plans going
"oar-ree",
which I have just replayed in my head to come up with "awry".
There must be a word for it. If not, can someone suggest a
neologism?
(That's nee-oh-logg-ism, by the way).
Round here we call it a "misle", pronounced [mizzle] because so many
of us read "misled" as [mizzled] as children.
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I pronounce it with a long i.
Some of the mispronunciations the OP mentions suggest that his/her teachers
never taught him/her the rules of English spelling, eg. c and g are soft
before e and i. But most are perfectly natural.
Adrian |
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Bill Bonde
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| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:00 pm
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Donna Richoux wrote:
| Quote: | "Mispronunciation"? It's hard to think of anything I would call a
mispronunciation that did not arise in that way: from people having seen
it in print but not heard it, or not heard it often enough to make the
connection. Well, we did talk recently about the case where people
thought there were two words, the regular one and their mispronounced
one, but that's slightly different.
If you learn a word by ear, on the other hand, then variation is a
matter of dialect (to-may-to, to-mah-to). Right?
I'm still not sure about 'sabot' inflected as 'sabotted'. Granted not a |
heavily used word in most speech, it does have a few hits on google:
http://www.google.com/search?q=sabotted
--
"...each one of whom as he struck his enemy wounded horribly some other
innocent heart far away." |
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Bill Bonde
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| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:18 pm
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Adrian Bailey wrote:
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"Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:38e1uqF5n1rccU1@individual.net...
guppy57 wrote:
Is there a word for those mispronunciations that arise from being
familiar with a word in its written form, but never having heard it
spoken?
For instance, when I was small, I thought that another word for
"club" was "sockee-a-tee", because I'd seen it in the Secret Seven
books. Similarly, I thought that there was a word that was
pronounced "mack-hine".
More recently, I heard someone say "appa-croffal" for "apocrophal"
and just today, a friend of mine spoke of his plans going
"oar-ree",
which I have just replayed in my head to come up with "awry".
There must be a word for it. If not, can someone suggest a
neologism?
(That's nee-oh-logg-ism, by the way).
Round here we call it a "misle", pronounced [mizzle] because so many
of us read "misled" as [mizzled] as children.
I pronounce it with a long i.
Some of the mispronunciations the OP mentions suggest that his/her teachers
never taught him/her the rules of English spelling, eg. c and g are soft
before e and i. But most are perfectly natural.
Macintosh is pronounced "Mashintosh"? |
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"...each one of whom as he struck his enemy wounded horribly some other
innocent heart far away." |
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Jess Askin
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:47 am
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"Bill Bonde" <stderr@mail.com> wrote in message
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Adrian Bailey wrote:
"Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:38e1uqF5n1rccU1@individual.net...
guppy57 wrote:
Is there a word for those mispronunciations that arise from being
familiar with a word in its written form, but never having heard it
spoken?
For instance, when I was small, I thought that another word for
"club" was "sockee-a-tee", because I'd seen it in the Secret Seven
books. Similarly, I thought that there was a word that was
pronounced "mack-hine".
More recently, I heard someone say "appa-croffal" for "apocrophal"
and just today, a friend of mine spoke of his plans going
"oar-ree",
which I have just replayed in my head to come up with "awry".
There must be a word for it. If not, can someone suggest a
neologism?
(That's nee-oh-logg-ism, by the way).
Round here we call it a "misle", pronounced [mizzle] because so many
of us read "misled" as [mizzled] as children.
I pronounce it with a long i.
Some of the mispronunciations the OP mentions suggest that his/her
teachers
never taught him/her the rules of English spelling, eg. c and g are soft
before e and i. But most are perfectly natural.
Macintosh is pronounced "Mashintosh"?
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Not quite as soft as that. "Masintosh" will do. |
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Jess Askin
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:50 am
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"guppy57" <gup@admin.net.au> wrote in message
news:1109504564.5b1734a27752b740ebbe4bc56087ab11@teranews...
| Quote: | Is there a word for those mispronunciations that arise from being familiar
with a word in its written form, but never having heard it spoken?
For instance, when I was small, I thought that another word for "club" was
"sockee-a-tee", because I'd seen it in the Secret Seven books. Similarly,
I
thought that there was a word that was pronounced "mack-hine".
More recently, I heard someone say "appa-croffal" for "apocrophal" and
just
today, a friend of mine spoke of his plans going "oar-ree", which I have
just replayed in my head to come up with "awry".
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"DESultory" was the one for me -- "desULtory" just seemed more likely. Maybe
I was thinking of "adultery." |
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Adrian Bailey
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:11 pm
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Bill Bonde <stderr@mail.com> wrote in message news:<4221E4B7.4618B41A@mail.com>...
| Quote: | Adrian Bailey wrote:
Some of the mispronunciations the OP mentions suggest that his/her teachers
never taught him/her the rules of English spelling, eg. c and g are soft
before e and i.
Macintosh is pronounced "Mashintosh"?
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Wow, that's hilarious. Can I have your scriptwriter's number?
Adrian |
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