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Raymond S. Wise
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:55 am
Post subject: An unusual result from a Google search |
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I was looking for some quotes from the *Blackadder Goes Forth* episode
involving Edmund Blackadder as a pigeon murderer, for a discussion in
alt.english.usage about the term "murder" being applied when the victim
is not human. I intended to search for the following:
"flanders pigeon murderer" "murdered"
which, when I did finally search for it, yielded seven hits.
However, what I actually searched for on my first attempt was the
following:
"flanders pigeon murderer" "murdered "
This search yielded 35 hits. The difference can be accounted for by the
fact that hits were return which contained the word "murder," not just
"murdered."
By the way, here's a quote from the Blackadder episode (which I decided
not to use in the other discussion):
From
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/blackadder/epguide/four_corporal.shtml
"The case before us is that of the Crown versus Captain Edmund
Blackadder, alias the Flanders Pigeon Murderer. Oh, and hand me the
black cap, will you - I'll be needing that."
"Flanders Pigeon Murderer" was shouted in anger, the judge happening to
be also the owner of the pigeon in question, which was a beloved pet.
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Raymond S. Wise
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
E-mail: mplsray @ yahoo . com
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JF
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:12 am
Post subject: Re: An unusual result from a Google search |
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In message <1131659745.553542.222520@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Raymond S. Wise <mplsray@my-deja.com> writes
| Quote: | I was looking for some quotes from the *Blackadder Goes Forth* episode
involving Edmund Blackadder as a pigeon murderer, for a discussion in
alt.english.usage about the term "murder" being applied when the victim
is not human.
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And why not? Just take care with your usage of homicide.
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James Follett |
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Bill Bonde ('by a commodi
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:51 am
Post subject: Re: An unusual result from a Google search |
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"Raymond S. Wise" wrote:
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Re: An unusual result from a Google search
I was looking for some quotes from the *Blackadder Goes Forth* episode
I thought you were going to say that you'd found what you were looking |
for.
| Quote: | From
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/blackadder/epguide/four_corporal.shtml
"The case before us is that of the Crown versus Captain Edmund
Blackadder, alias the Flanders Pigeon Murderer. Oh, and hand me the
black cap, will you - I'll be needing that."
"Flanders Pigeon Murderer" was shouted in anger, the judge happening to
be also the owner of the pigeon in question, which was a beloved pet.
Wasn't his name "Sparkles" or something like that? Stephen Fry cracks me |
up.
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Why do sequels seem not to continue the story but instead retell the
original? I still want to see a real sequel to "Universal Soldier" where
the new girlfriend and the reanimated soldier who has to take a break
and recharge in a special recharge machine every few days, and might
melt if he gets too excited, learns to live within his limitations,
perhaps getting a job selling life insurance nine to five while starting
his own country western band as an evening outlet, finally taking the
time out in his life for romance and smelling the lovely flowers. Have
some guts Hollywood, turn a full out violent action movie into a woman
friendly romantic comedy sequel!
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The Other Fran
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:19 am
Post subject: Re: An unusual result from a Google search |
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Raymond S. Wise wrote:
| Quote: | I was looking for some quotes from the *Blackadder Goes Forth* episode
involving Edmund Blackadder as a pigeon murderer, for a discussion in
alt.english.usage about the term "murder" being applied when the victim
is not human. I intended to search for the following:
"flanders pigeon murderer" "murdered"
which, when I did finally search for it, yielded seven hits.
However, what I actually searched for on my first attempt was the
following:
"flanders pigeon murderer" "murdered "
This search yielded 35 hits. The difference can be accounted for by the
fact that hits were return which contained the word "murder," not just
"murdered."
By the way, here's a quote from the Blackadder episode (which I decided
not to use in the other discussion):
From
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/blackadder/epguide/four_corporal.shtml
"The case before us is that of the Crown versus Captain Edmund
Blackadder, alias the Flanders Pigeon Murderer. Oh, and hand me the
black cap, will you - I'll be needing that."
"Flanders Pigeon Murderer" was shouted in anger, the judge happening to
be also the owner of the pigeon in question, which was a beloved pet.
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The amusement turns of course, on the eccentric use of "murder". People
often say things like "I could just murder a cigarette and a cup of tea
right now", meaning that they would consume them quickly and
thoroughly.
For the record, I'm an animal lover. I think the use of murder in the
way you've quoted above, raises an interesting ethical question that
many pass over too lightly.
TOF |
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TakenEvent
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:00 am
Post subject: Re: An unusual result from a Google search |
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"Raymond S. Wise" <mplsray@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1131659745.553542.222520@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | I was looking for some quotes from the *Blackadder Goes Forth* episode
involving Edmund Blackadder as a pigeon murderer, for a discussion in
alt.english.usage about the term "murder" being applied when the victim
is not human. I intended to search for the following:
"flanders pigeon murderer" "murdered"
which, when I did finally search for it, yielded seven hits.
However, what I actually searched for on my first attempt was the
following:
"flanders pigeon murderer" "murdered "
This search yielded 35 hits. The difference can be accounted for by the
fact that hits were return which contained the word "murder," not just
"murdered."
By the way, here's a quote from the Blackadder episode (which I decided
not to use in the other discussion):
From
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/blackadder/epguide/four_corporal.shtml
"The case before us is that of the Crown versus Captain Edmund
Blackadder, alias the Flanders Pigeon Murderer. Oh, and hand me the
black cap, will you - I'll be needing that."
"Flanders Pigeon Murderer" was shouted in anger, the judge happening to
be also the owner of the pigeon in question, which was a beloved pet.
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The same seems to happen with other words, too, like "hunt". I wonder if
its a built-in feature... I couldn't find anything about it on their site,
though they do mention that if you search for "dietary", Google will also
look for "diet" with the following search [pet lemur dietary needs]. This
mostly returns hits for Google's mention of this fact. I'd add a [-Google]
if you really need to search for this info. |
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Charles Riggs
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:00 am
Post subject: Re: An unusual result from a Google search |
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On 10 Nov 2005 16:19:27 -0800, "The Other Fran"
<fran_beta@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Raymond S. Wise wrote:
I was looking for some quotes from the *Blackadder Goes Forth* episode
involving Edmund Blackadder as a pigeon murderer, for a discussion in
alt.english.usage about the term "murder" being applied when the victim
is not human. I intended to search for the following:
"flanders pigeon murderer" "murdered"
which, when I did finally search for it, yielded seven hits.
However, what I actually searched for on my first attempt was the
following:
"flanders pigeon murderer" "murdered "
This search yielded 35 hits. The difference can be accounted for by the
fact that hits were return which contained the word "murder," not just
"murdered."
By the way, here's a quote from the Blackadder episode (which I decided
not to use in the other discussion):
From
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/blackadder/epguide/four_corporal.shtml
"The case before us is that of the Crown versus Captain Edmund
Blackadder, alias the Flanders Pigeon Murderer. Oh, and hand me the
black cap, will you - I'll be needing that."
"Flanders Pigeon Murderer" was shouted in anger, the judge happening to
be also the owner of the pigeon in question, which was a beloved pet.
The amusement turns of course, on the eccentric use of "murder". People
often say things like "I could just murder a cigarette and a cup of tea
right now", meaning that they would consume them quickly and
thoroughly.
For the record, I'm an animal lover. I think the use of murder in the
way you've quoted above, raises an interesting ethical question that
many pass over too lightly.
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Well, I'm an animal eater, and I don't think "murder" can ever apply
to the killing of an animal, other than a human animal. My dictionary
appears to agree.
What is the ethical question you had in mind, Fran?
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The Other Fran
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:00 am
Post subject: Re: An unusual result from a Google search |
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Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
| Quote: | The Other Fran wrote:
For the record, I'm an animal lover. I think the use of murder in the
way you've quoted above, raises an interesting ethical question that
many pass over too lightly.
Especially Sir Edmund Blackadder. Perhaps he should just do what we did
back in the Boer War, put two pencils in his nose, his underwear on top
of his head, and repeatedly say, "Bobble".
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I have the DVDs ... It is an amusing series.
TOF |
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Bill Bonde ('by a commodi
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:01 am
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The Other Fran wrote:
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For the record, I'm an animal lover. I think the use of murder in the
way you've quoted above, raises an interesting ethical question that
many pass over too lightly.
Especially Sir Edmund Blackadder. Perhaps he should just do what we did |
back in the Boer War, put two pencils in his nose, his underwear on top
of his head, and repeatedly say, "Bobble".
--
Why do sequels seem not to continue the story but instead retell the
original? I still want to see a real sequel to "Universal Soldier" where
the new girlfriend and the reanimated soldier who has to take a break
and recharge in a special recharge machine every few days, and might
melt if he gets too excited, learns to live within his limitations,
perhaps getting a job selling life insurance nine to five while starting
his own country western band as an evening outlet, finally taking the
time out in his life for romance and smelling the lovely flowers. Have
some guts Hollywood, turn a full out violent action movie into a woman
friendly romantic comedy sequel! |
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