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Ross Howard
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jerry_friedman@yahoo.com
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:17 am
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Ross Howard wrote:
Particularly interesting was the scribe's getting some of the symbols
out of order. This may be not only the first "abecedary" but also the
first evidence of dyslexia.
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Yusuf B Gursey
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:07 am
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jerry_friedman@yahoo.com wrote:
it is an "alphabet" presented in order. the letter shapes acc.to the
article
shpw a transition from Phoenician to (paleo-)Hebrew, which are not too
different anyway.
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The Grammer Genious
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:07 am
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Ross Howard <gguiri@yahoo.com> wrote
I think it's cool that the Jews got their alphabet from the Lebanese. |
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JF
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:07 am
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In message <1131589567.653898.220130@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Yusuf B Gursey <ybg@theworld.com> writes
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jerry_friedman@yahoo.com wrote:
Ross Howard wrote:
An interesting piece in The New York Times today:
www.nytimes.com/2005/11/09/international/middleeast/09alphabet.html
Particularly interesting was the scribe's getting some of the symbols
out of order. This may be not only the first "abecedary" but also the
first evidence of dyslexia.
it is an "alphabet" presented in order. the letter shapes acc.to the
article shpw a transition from Phoenician to (paleo-)Hebrew, which are
not too different anyway.
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A fascinating find which has me wondering if the Phoenician 'aleph-beth'
dating from around 1000BC has given us 'alphabet' as the oldest word in
common use.
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James Follett. |
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Brian M. Scott
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:07 am
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 03:31:49 +0000, JF
<jf@NOSPAMmarage.demon.co.uk> wrote in
<news:6ZgRHLBl8rcDFwh0@marage.demon.co.uk> in
alt.usage.english,sci.lang:
| Quote: | In message <1131589567.653898.220130@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Yusuf B Gursey <ybg@theworld.com> writes
jerry_friedman@yahoo.com wrote:
Ross Howard wrote:
An interesting piece in The New York Times today:
www.nytimes.com/2005/11/09/international/middleeast/09alphabet.html
Particularly interesting was the scribe's getting some of the symbols
out of order. This may be not only the first "abecedary" but also the
first evidence of dyslexia.
it is an "alphabet" presented in order. the letter shapes acc.to the
article shpw a transition from Phoenician to (paleo-)Hebrew, which are
not too different anyway.
A fascinating find which has me wondering if the Phoenician 'aleph-beth'
dating from around 1000BC has given us 'alphabet' as the oldest word in
common use.
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The word <alphabet> itself dates only from the late 16th
century. Even in 1611 Cotgrave could still write 'Touching
the French abece, for alphabet I will not call it, according
to the vulgar error, that word being peculiar only to the
Greek tongue'. Latin <alphabetum> is apparently found in
Tertullian.
Brian |
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izzy
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:32 pm
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The Grammer Genious wrote:
| Quote: | www.nytimes.com/2005/11/09/international/middleeast/09alphabet.html
I think it's cool that the Jews got their alphabet from the Lebanese.
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I think it is cool that all of us got our maps of Asia minor and north
Africa from the Phoenicians. Maybe they obtained BaRZeL = iron from
Brazil? They did obtain tin from Cornwall, England. Their Tarshish
ships were larger than the ships used by Columbus.
ANTHROPOMORPHIC MAPS
These maps were formed by configuring the virtual body of a god or
goddess over the area to be mapped. The name of each part of that body
became the name of the area/feature under that part. This technique
produced a scale 1:1 map-without-paper with place names that
automatically indicated their approximate location relative to all
other places that were named in the same manner.
APHRODITE
The body-part map of Aphrodite is in north Africa. Her face [PaNim] was
lost during the 3rd Punic war. The rest of her is still there. She is
looking backwards over her right shoulder, so her CRaniuM is reversed
at Morocco. It still has a Fez. Her chin [SaNTir] is also reversed at
Tunisia. The Atlas mountains [atlas: 3. first cervical vertebra]
support her head. Her hair [Sa3aRa] is the Sahara desert. Her backbone
[SHiDRa] is the Gulf of Sidra. Her heart [LeV] is Libya. Her breast
[SHaD] is Chad. Her narrow [TZaR] waist is Misr / Mitzraim. Egypt
[Greek hepato-] is her liver. Her navel was at Nubia. Her side [TZaD]
is Sudan. Her left [SMoL] leg is Somalia.
Her Latin cunnus was CaNa3aN, which reverses to 3oNeG = pleasure. Its
name changed to YiSRa@eL at the time when Ya3aKoV / Jacob "fought with
god and men" [Gen 32:29]. This represented a change in sovereignty from
Africa to Asia minor. YiSRa@eL is the body part that gives @oSHeR =
delight to @eL = god when it is YaSHaR = straight, upright.
HERMES
The body-part map of Hermes is in Asia minor. kHermes [kHoR = hole +
MoSnaim = waist, that is, a navel] lived at Mt. kHermon before he moved
Mt. Olympus [Greek omphalos = navel]. Later his name was reversed to
become Latin Mercury. Amerigo Vespucci and (therefore ?) America are
based on the same root.
His head [RoSH] was at Rus, south of Belarus. Its name changed to the
Ukraine [Gk kranion = cranium]. His throat [GaRGeret] is Georgia. His
left shoulder [KaSaF] is the Caspian sea. His right arm/hand is being
washed [NaTiLat] at Anatolia. His upper arm [Sanskrit irma] at Armenia,
biceps [Greek pontiki = muscle] at Pontus, elbow [KiFooF yaD] at
Cappadocia, wrist [m'FaReK] at Phrygia, and thumb [BoHeN] at Bithynia
were in Anatolia. His heart [Greek cardia] became Kurdistan. His
narrow [TZaR] waist is Syria and his navel [Sanskrit nabhila] reverses
to LeBaNon. South of Lebanon is the male member [Greek phallus] named
Philistina/Palestine. See CaNa3aN / YiSRa@eL above. His buttocks
[YeReKH] is Iraq. The letter shin in his thigh [shin-vav-kuf] had a
dental T-sound so the reversal of TVK sounded like KVT or Kuwait. His
knee [BeReKH] is partially reversed in Bahrain. His right [Y'MiN] foot
is at Yemen.
For more information about this type of map, join the BPMaps discussion
group at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BPMaps/
The maps of Hermes & Aphrodite and similar maps of the creator of the
Blackfoot indians (The Old Man) and his wife (The Old Woman) are
described in the databases at the BPMaps website. Look for the message
entitled "Attributes of Body Part Maps."
ciao,
Israel "izzy" Cohen
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