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retrosorter
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:30 am
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I was an England this summer where I heard a weatherperson talk about a
"cloud system fringing" a particular area. What does this mean? It
sounds like a fancy way of saying "bordering." |
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Donna Richoux
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:42 am
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retrosorter <hrichler@sympatico.ca> wrote:
| Quote: | I was an England this summer where I heard a weatherperson talk about a
"cloud system fringing" a particular area. What does this mean? It
sounds like a fancy way of saying "bordering."
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Yes, it could be that, but it is also suggestive of a certain shape of
border, a line of wispy, feathery clouds. You know what a fringe is,
right? Picture:
http://charmknits.com/fringe.jpg
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Best - Donna Richoux |
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Jim Lawton
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:16 pm
Post subject: Re: fringing |
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:42:16 +0100, trio@euronet.nl (Donna Richoux) wrote:
| Quote: | retrosorter <hrichler@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I was an England this summer where I heard a weatherperson talk about a
"cloud system fringing" a particular area. What does this mean? It
sounds like a fancy way of saying "bordering."
Yes, it could be that, but it is also suggestive of a certain shape of
border, a line of wispy, feathery clouds. You know what a fringe is,
right? Picture:
http://charmknits.com/fringe.jpg
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I can just see that across the forehead of my little pony.
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Jim
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Charles Riggs
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:59 pm
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On 8 Nov 2005 13:30:47 -0800, "retrosorter" <hrichler@sympatico.ca>
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| Quote: | I was an England this summer where I heard a weatherperson talk about a
"cloud system fringing" a particular area. What does this mean? It
sounds like a fancy way of saying "bordering."
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Awful English, but yes. I hope it doesn't catch on.
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Charles Riggs |
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retrosorter
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:34 am
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FWIW, i just remenbered that the cloud systems in question were
"'fringing the Pennines."
Perhaps cloud systems are particularly fringy there. |
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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:47 am
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retrosorter wrote:
| Quote: | FWIW, i just remenbered that the cloud systems in question were
"'fringing the Pennines."
Perhaps cloud systems are particularly fringy there.
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I'm a bit surprised anybody has difficulty in accepting the
transferred use of "fringing". It's a perfectly ordinary usage in my
experience, and it's been around for generations, in writing as in
speech. Consider also the noun: we have, among many others, "the
Celtic fringe", and, not necessarily related, "the lunatic fringe".
Uniting both of those, in my time I've done several shows on the
Edinburgh Festival Fringe.
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Mike. |
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Jim Lawton
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:31 pm
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On 9 Nov 2005 14:34:55 -0800, "retrosorter" <hrichler@sympatico.ca> wrote:
| Quote: | FWIW, i just remenbered that the cloud systems in question were
"'fringing the Pennines."
Perhaps cloud systems are particularly fringy there.
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Th'art right yar kid. Thi fringe summat dreadful rahnd 'ere. Why Ah mind one day
when me nt' dog were aht on black 'ill when ........
And as Mike Lyle says, what's wrong with "fringing"?
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Jim
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Ross Howard
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:48 pm
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 07:31:27 GMT, Jim Lawton
<usenet1@jimlawton.TAKEOUTinfo> wrought:
| Quote: | On 9 Nov 2005 14:34:55 -0800, "retrosorter" <hrichler@sympatico.ca> wrote:
FWIW, i just remenbered that the cloud systems in question were
"'fringing the Pennines."
Perhaps cloud systems are particularly fringy there.
Th'art right yar kid. Thi fringe summat dreadful rahnd 'ere. Why Ah mind one day
when me nt' dog were aht on black 'ill when ........
And as Mike Lyle says, what's wrong with "fringing"?
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It's frigging difficult to pronounce properlike if it loses its "e".
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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:37 pm
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Ross Howard wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 07:31:27 GMT, Jim Lawton
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And as Mike Lyle says, what's wrong with "fringing"?
It's frigging difficult to pronounce properlike if it loses its
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I did think about that, but decided to go with Occam ("singing" and
"singeing" notwithstanding). I now find that Collins and COD9 support
"fringing" by inescapable implication (though you have to search a
bit), while COD5 specifies it under the headword. Judging it best to
leave it at that, I returned the dictionaries to their dingy
lodgings.
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Robert Bannister
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:06 am
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Charles Riggs wrote:
| Quote: | On 8 Nov 2005 13:30:47 -0800, "retrosorter" <hrichler@sympatico.ca
wrote:
I was an England this summer where I heard a weatherperson talk about a
"cloud system fringing" a particular area. What does this mean? It
sounds like a fancy way of saying "bordering."
Awful English, but yes. I hope it doesn't catch on.
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This winter, rain clouds have been infringing severely on my personal
space, but perhaps, in the USA, they'd be bangs.
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Rob Bannister |
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Charles Riggs
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:06 am
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:06:59 +0800, Robert Bannister
<robban@it.net.au> wrote:
| Quote: | Charles Riggs wrote:
On 8 Nov 2005 13:30:47 -0800, "retrosorter" <hrichler@sympatico.ca
wrote:
I was an England this summer where I heard a weatherperson talk about a
"cloud system fringing" a particular area. What does this mean? It
sounds like a fancy way of saying "bordering."
Awful English, but yes. I hope it doesn't catch on.
This winter, rain clouds have been infringing severely on my personal
space, but perhaps, in the USA, they'd be bangs.
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There's nothing wrong with "infringing", nor is there with
"bordering", but "fringing", with its weather front meaning, if it has
an established one as Mike Lyle claims, is distinctly not American
English. Or at least it is not a word a normal American would use in
such a context.
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Charles Riggs |
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