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Pete
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:14 pm
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Does "we're" sound exactly as "were"? Ex. We're late. It reads just
as "Were late". Right? |
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Alec McKenzie
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:24 pm
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Pete <Pete@how.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Does "we're" sound exactly as "were"? Ex. We're late. It reads just
as "Were late". Right?
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Wrong. "We're" sounds like "weir".
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Nate Branscom
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:36 pm
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Alec McKenzie wrote:
| Quote: | Pete <Pete@how.com> wrote:
Does "we're" sound exactly as "were"? Ex. We're late. It reads just
as "Were late". Right?
Wrong. "We're" sounds like "weir".
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Alec is right. It's as if your sayin "weird" with a silent "d". |
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Donna Richoux
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:00 pm
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Pete <Pete@how.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Does "we're" sound exactly as "were"? Ex. We're late. It reads just
as "Were late". Right?
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For me, an unemphasized "we're" sounds like "were," with a schwa:
We're going to do it anyway.
They were going to do it anyway.
But if I emphasize "we're" it has quite the long e sound, close to "we".
similar to "ear," "near" and "here".
We're the ones who will have to do it.
Originally from California, which means rhotic.
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Best -- Donna Richoux |
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John Dean
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:34 pm
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Pete wrote:
| Quote: | Does "we're" sound exactly as "were"? Ex. We're late. It reads just
as "Were late". Right?
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It depends who you are, where you were born, where you were raised and
by whom, where you were educated and by whom, how pretentious you are
and what company you keep. It also depends how you pronounce "were".
Where I come from, you'd hear "we're" as "wee-er" as often as not. RP
speakers often say something like "ware". But the world is your lobster
on this one.
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John Dean
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The Grammer Genious
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:13 pm
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Pete <Pete@how.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Does "we're" sound exactly as "were"? Ex. We're late. It reads just
as "Were late". Right?
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Sometimes, yes. It's normal. |
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Raymond S. Wise
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| Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:54 am
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The Grammer Genious wrote:
| Quote: | Pete <Pete@how.com> wrote in message
news:mi9mm1dcpc6kp02anf40nel3sj7m8a7549@4ax.com...
Does "we're" sound exactly as "were"? Ex. We're late. It reads just
as "Were late". Right?
Sometimes, yes. It's normal.
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Yes. See the *Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary* entry for "we're" at
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/we're
which shows three pronunciations for the word.
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Raymond S. Wise
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
E-mail: mplsray @ yahoo . com |
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Bill Bonde ('by a commodi
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| Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:54 am
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Donna Richoux wrote:
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Pete <Pete@how.com> wrote:
Does "we're" sound exactly as "were"? Ex. We're late. It reads just
as "Were late". Right?
For me, an unemphasized "we're" sounds like "were," with a schwa:
We're going to do it anyway.
They were going to do it anyway.
But if I emphasize "we're" it has quite the long e sound, close to "we".
similar to "ear," "near" and "here".
We're the ones who will have to do it.
Originally from California, which means rhotic.
So if you are non-rhotic, you'd say "we're" like it was "we'"? No wonder |
some people say, "We is goin' to the sto' fo' some grape sodas."
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Had Tolstoy confined himself to war or peace, he could have been
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at Rosa Parks, she dared to rock the bus. Bully for her! |
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Robert Bannister
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| Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:08 am
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Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
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Donna Richoux wrote:
Pete <Pete@how.com> wrote:
Does "we're" sound exactly as "were"? Ex. We're late. It reads just
as "Were late". Right?
For me, an unemphasized "we're" sounds like "were," with a schwa:
We're going to do it anyway.
They were going to do it anyway.
But if I emphasize "we're" it has quite the long e sound, close to "we".
similar to "ear," "near" and "here".
We're the ones who will have to do it.
Originally from California, which means rhotic.
So if you are non-rhotic, you'd say "we're" like it was "we'"? No wonder
some people say, "We is goin' to the sto' fo' some grape sodas."
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I don't think you fully understand non-rhoticism. In most, thought not
all, cases, the r is replaced by a modification of the vowel, which
mostly results in a diphthong. "We're" is something like "wee-a" or "wi-a".
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Iain
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| Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:52 am
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Pete wrote:
| Quote: | Does "we're" sound exactly as "were"? Ex. We're late. It reads just
as "Were late". Right?
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Only if you're extrapolating from text. "Were" rhymed with "Beer" to
the original spellers.
~Iain |
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Bill Bonde ('by a commodi
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| Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:40 am
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Iain wrote:
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Pete wrote:
Does "we're" sound exactly as "were"? Ex. We're late. It reads just
as "Were late". Right?
Only if you're extrapolating from text. "Were" rhymed with "Beer" to
the original spellers.
So the bear had a beer in his paw might be painful? |
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Had Tolstoy confined himself to war or peace, he could have been
finished in seven hundred and fifty pages.
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Iain
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| Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:12 pm
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Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
| Quote: | Iain wrote:
Pete wrote:
Does "we're" sound exactly as "were"? Ex. We're late. It reads just
as "Were late". Right?
Only if you're extrapolating from text. "Were" rhymed with "Beer" to
the original spellers.
So the bear had a beer in his paw might be painful?
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I'm convinced there must have been something a bit different about how
the two words sounded, but only for the rationale behind writing at
that time. I would guess offhand maybe somewhere Bear sounded slightly
bisyllabic but I don't know who knows what.
~Iain |
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Bill Bonde ('by a commodi
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| Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:22 am
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Iain wrote:
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Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
Iain wrote:
Pete wrote:
Does "we're" sound exactly as "were"? Ex. We're late. It reads just
as "Were late". Right?
Only if you're extrapolating from text. "Were" rhymed with "Beer" to
the original spellers.
So the bear had a beer in his paw might be painful?
I'm convinced there must have been something a bit different about how
the two words sounded,
I was just punning around with what if "were" and "beer" sounded the |
same, which they don't to me, and therefore, say, "beer" was pronounced
like "bur", which does rhyme in my speech with "were", the "bur" being
something that might get stuck painfully in a paw rather than being put
to lips and drained with some salted nuts.
| Quote: | but only for the rationale behind writing at
that time. I would guess offhand maybe somewhere Bear sounded slightly
bisyllabic but I don't know who knows what.
I don't here that with "bear". I think it's a diphthong, or some sort of |
connected vowel or vowels. I think that "we're" is closer to two
syllables in my speech. "Were" is not.
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Why do sequels seem not to continue the story but instead retell the
original? I still want to see a real sequel to "Universal Soldier" where
the new girlfriend and the reanimated soldier who has to take a break
and recharge in a special recharge machine every few days, and might
melt if he gets too excited, learns to live within his limitations,
perhaps getting a job selling life insurance nine to five while starting
his own country western band as an evening outlet, finally taking the
time out in his life for romance and smelling the lovely flowers. Have
some guts Hollywood, turn a full out violent action movie into a woman
friendly romantic comedy sequel! |
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Iain
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| Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:46 am
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Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
| Quote: | Iain wrote:
Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
Iain wrote:
Pete wrote:
Does "we're" sound exactly as "were"? Ex. We're late. It reads just
as "Were late". Right?
Only if you're extrapolating from text. "Were" rhymed with "Beer" to
the original spellers.
So the bear had a beer in his paw might be painful?
I'm convinced there must have been something a bit different about how
the two words sounded,
I was just punning around with what if "were" and "beer" sounded the
same, which they don't to me, and therefore, say, "beer" was pronounced
like "bur", which does rhyme in my speech with "were", the "bur" being
something that might get stuck painfully in a paw rather than being put
to lips and drained with some salted nuts.
but only for the rationale behind writing at
that time. I would guess offhand maybe somewhere Bear sounded slightly
bisyllabic but I don't know who knows what.
I don't here that with "bear". I think it's a diphthong, or some sort of
connected vowel or vowels. I think that "we're" is closer to two
syllables in my speech. "Were" is not.
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Hyyyyyyes but you wouldn't would you, being modern man? I was talking
about whatever reason we have two spellings for "bear" and "beer" even
though they once sounded the same. My guess is they didn't sound quite
the same back when it was first spelt and that we have inherited an
exaggeration of that difference.
~Iain |
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Blue Hornet
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| Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:21 am
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Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
| Quote: | Donna Richoux wrote:
Pete <Pete@how.com> wrote:
Does "we're" sound exactly as "were"? Ex. We're late. It reads just
as "Were late". Right?
For me, an unemphasized "we're" sounds like "were," with a schwa:
We're going to do it anyway.
They were going to do it anyway.
But if I emphasize "we're" it has quite the long e sound, close to "we".
similar to "ear," "near" and "here".
We're the ones who will have to do it.
Originally from California, which means rhotic.
So if you are non-rhotic, you'd say "we're" like it was "we'"? No wonder
some people say, "We is goin' to the sto' fo' some grape sodas."
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de sto' ... soders. |
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