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[Charles Riggs]

On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 01:08:10 GMT, Tony Cooper
<tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote:

[Charles Riggs]

On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:19:59 GMT, Tony Cooper
<tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote:

[Don Aitken]

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:54:20 +0000 (UTC), Salvatore Volatile
<me@privacy.net> wrote:

[Bob Cunningham]

On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 01:13:43 +0100, Chris Waigl
<cwaigl@free.fr> said:

[Tony Cooper]

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 23:38:33 +0000 (UTC), Salvatore Volatile
<me@privacy.net> wrote:

[R J Valentine]

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:03:50 +0000 (UTC) Salvatore Volatile <me@privacy.net> wrote:
....
} A curious possibly-related thing: What I call the Boston schwa -- for
} example, the non-rhotic realization of non-stressed -er in a word like
} "ginger", sounds to me almost like what I think of as "ah", whereas the
} New York non-rhotic schwa in similar settings sounds more like what I
} think of as "uh". Thus "ginger" is "gin-jah" in Boston, "gin-juh" in New
} York. I've never seen any serious discussion of this difference, but I
} have to assume that what's going on is that the Boston schwa is more open
} and/or more fronted, somehow, than the New York schwa.

It's been claimed (by a poster who also claimed not to know from
linguistics) that a schwa isn't a specific position in the mythical
linguistic "mouth", but rather a nondescript voicing in whatever position
the surrounding consonants dictate, and shorter than the ordinary short
vowel. In other words, [@] is different from [V] both in position
specificity and in length (being perhaps half [in a SparkE-precision
sense] as long).

The average linguist might disagree, but the odd philologist might have
the ear to have noticed it.

--
R. J. Valentine <mailto:rj@theWorld.com>

[R J Valentine]

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:33:28 -0800 Sara Lorimer <que.sara.saraDELETE@gmail.com> wrote:

} Salvatore Volatile <me@privacy.net> wrote:
}
}> Sara Lorimer wrote:
}> > Salvatore Volatile <me@privacy.net> wrote:
}> >
}> >> Also, are 'The Carrs' some Hibernic singing group, or are you referring to
}> >> the beat combo 'The Cars', who are themselves (do they still exist?) from
}> >> the Bwahston area?
}> >
}> > Bawston, surely.
}>
}> No, Bwahston. Ask ray o'hara.
}
} I don't know what accent that is, and I've spent years living in and
} near Boston (or, as I say, Bastn)... but I bow to your supperior ear
} when it comes to accents.

He's not bad at spelling, either.

ObProgRep: Both _Booty_ and _Temple of the Winds_ have come to the surface
and are now within arm's reach, though the _Monkey's Uncle_ prequels, the
SGML book, the computer guide, the newsletters and such, and the T-shirt
(all spotted recently) elude me at the moment (but I've got just the
corner for an AUE bookcase).

--
R. J. Valentine <mailto:rj@theWorld.com>

[R J Valentine]

On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 01:31:30 GMT Bob Cunningham <exw6sxq@earthlink.net> wrote:
....
} You can hear me pronouncing some [A:] sounds at
} http://alt-usage-english.org/audio_gallery/bob_cunningham.mp3
} , which is part of a gallery consisting of several followers
} of this newsgroup pronouncing their names.

And somewhere (maybe there or near there) you can hear him pronouncing an
excellent "aw" and "ah" (respectively) in "People call me Bob."

....
} I long thought that no Americans have [A.]. There are
} alt.usage.english contributors who think that some do, but
} I'm not sure those contributors really understand what [A.]
} is: a *rounded* low back vowel.

That'd be me. Those contributers can distinguish between definitional
"rounding" and real-life lip rounding. Fortunately, Mr. Cunningham kindly
provided us (and may still provide it, for all I know) with an audio-video
clip of his granddaughter saying to her niece (his great-granddaughter)
something quite close to "You can do it, too" (which contains several
instances of the presumably "rounded" [u] sound with a visible lack of lip
rounding, though with detectable breathing and jaw movement appropriate
for the utterance. Those contributors can also produce both a visibly
rounded and a ventriloquistically equivalent stiff-upper-lip version of
the [A.] noise the British and Bostonians do so well (and as a youth mowed
lawn for a British couple who lived just around the corner on High
Street). Those contributors didn't just fall off the turnip truck.

--
R. J. Valentine <mailto:rj@theWorld.com>

[Donna Richoux]

John Dean <john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote:

[FB]

On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 23:27:10 GMT, Bob Cunningham wrote:

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[Blue Hornet]

Sara Lorimer wrote:

[Bob Cunningham]

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 15:22:07 +0100, FB
<fam.balducciNOSPAM@tin.it> said:

[nancy13g]

[Bob Cunningham]

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 13:33:12 +0000 (UTC), R J Valentine
<rj@TheWorld.com> said:

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