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irwell
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Bowler hats until after Goodwood Week? White Shoes after |
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 05:41:35 +0000, Charles Riggs <chriggs@éircom.net>
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| Quote: | On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 13:11:48 -0800, irwell <hook@yahoo.com> wrote:
Connected question, for American women: do you wear white shoes after
Labor Day? That's a serious question, by the way: how many of you were
aware of that sartorial taboo before "Serial Mom" appeared?
Never wear brown shoes with a blue suit.
Not a law of dress, even if it is often said.
What you can't do is wear a stripped tie with a checkered shirt, a
green tie with a blue jacket, or white socks with long trousers.
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Depends on what has been stripped from the tie, egg yolk
and spaghetti sauce should definitely go. |
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Donna Richoux
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:03 pm
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Sara Lorimer <que.sara.saraDELETE@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Isabelle Cecchini wrote:
Connected question, for American women: do you wear white shoes after
Labor Day?
No. Nor do I wear them before Labor Day, nor on Labor Day itself.
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Same.
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That's a serious question, by the way: how many of you were
aware of that sartorial taboo before "Serial Mom" appeared?
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I think I watched the opening scene, or maybe that was something else.
Not an influence.
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I don't know what "Serial Mom" is, but the fashion of not wearing white
shoes between Memorial Day and Labor Day (or at least saying that other
peoplee shouldn't) is nothing new.
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I never paid any attention to that, but surely you meant that between
Memorial Day and Labor Day is the period you *are* supposedly permitted
to wear them? I.e., summer?
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Sara Lorimer
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:41 pm
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Donna Richoux <trio@euronet.nl> wrote:
| Quote: | Sara Lorimer <que.sara.saraDELETE@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know what "Serial Mom" is, but the fashion of not wearing white
shoes between Memorial Day and Labor Day (or at least saying that other
peoplee shouldn't) is nothing new.
I never paid any attention to that, but surely you meant that between
Memorial Day and Labor Day is the period you *are* supposedly permitted
to wear them? I.e., summer?
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Whoops! You're right, of course. Quel faux pas.
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SML |
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:12 am
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| Quote: | On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 05:41:35 +0000, Charles Riggs <chriggs@éircom.net
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What you can't do is wear a stripped tie with a checkered shirt, a
green tie with a blue jacket, or white socks with long trousers.
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That first one is a special instance of "two plains and a fancy", referring to
shirt, tie and jacket....r |
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the Omrud
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:53 am
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Sara Lorimer <que.sara.saraDELETE@gmail.com> spake thusly:
| Quote: | Donna Richoux <trio@euronet.nl> wrote:
Sara Lorimer <que.sara.saraDELETE@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know what "Serial Mom" is, but the fashion of not wearing white
shoes between Memorial Day and Labor Day (or at least saying that other
peoplee shouldn't) is nothing new.
I never paid any attention to that, but surely you meant that between
Memorial Day and Labor Day is the period you *are* supposedly permitted
to wear them? I.e., summer?
Whoops! You're right, of course. Quel faux pas.
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Apart from shoes intended for sport (or purportedly intended for
sport), I don't think I am familiar with any widespread wearing of
white shoes in these parts. For there to be a seasonal "rule", they
must have been very popular. I'm sure Wife doesn't possess any white
shoes (except for Dunlop Green Flash, as I say). For the record, nor
do I.
When I was at summer camp in Pennsylvania, we used to hold a
sweepstake on parents' visiting day, about what time the first father
would appear wearing a blue blazer with badge, yachting cap and white
shoes. I have a feeling that those are the only white shoes I've
ever been consciously aware of.
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David
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Maria Conlon
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:01 am
Post subject: Re: Bowler hats until after Goodwood Week? White Shoes after |
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Sara Lorimer wrote:
| Quote: | Isabelle Cecchini wrote:
Connected question, for American women: do you wear white shoes after
Labor Day?
No. Nor do I wear them before Labor Day, nor on Labor Day itself.
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There is one pair of white pumps (high heels) in my closet, but I
haven't worn them for a long time. When I did, it was only in the
Memorial-Day-to-Labor-Day time frame, and it was only once or twice.
White shoes are sort of out-of-style, and they get scuffed/dirty too
easily.
Plus: There's an old pair of white nurse-type (or waitress-type) shoes
that I wear when doing a lot of walking[1], but not in the off-season; I
have black ones for then.  I also have a couple of pairs of
"tennies," (athletic shoes) but they are so heavy that I don't like to
wear them.
Not that anyone asked, but my favorite shoes are dainty-looking sandals
(no big clunky straps) or toe-less sling-back pumps. My feet are
probably my best feature, and I tend to show them off shamelessly.
[1] Think going to the mall to shop. Malls are too big, you know.
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Django Cat
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| Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Bowler hats until after Goodwood Week? White Shoes after |
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John Dean wrote:
| Quote: | irwell wrote:
On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:14:47 +0100, Isabelle Cecchini
isabelle.cecchini@wanaNOSPAM.invalid> wrote:
In /Put Out More Flags/ Evelyn Waugh wrote the following sentence:
"... he observed certain immature taboos of dress, such as wearing
a >> bowler hat in London until after Goodwood Week; ..."
As I had no idea about Goodwood Week --me being French, and a
woman, >> and all that-- I googled and learnt that Goodwood is
connected with >> horse-racing, and that Goodwood Week takes place at
the end of July, >> beginning of August.
Were gentlemen at the time that Waugh is writing about --just
before >> WWII-- subject to that "taboo[s] of dress"? Why does Waugh
call it >> "immature"? What did gentlemen wear after Goodwood Week
was over? One >> daren't imagine they might have gone bare-headed.
And when did they >> start wearing their bowler hats again?
Connected question, for American women: do you wear white shoes
after >> Labor Day? That's a serious question, by the way: how many
of you >> were aware of that sartorial taboo before "Serial Mom"
appeared?
Never wear brown shoes with a blue suit.
'Why, 'e looks more like a bookmaker's clerk - in brahn boots!'
That's why we 'ad to be so rude to 'im,
That's why we never said 'Ow do!' to 'im.
We didn't know - he didn't say
He'd give 'is other boots away.
But brahn boots! I ask yer - brahn boots!
While all the rest
Wore decent black, and mourning suits!
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Django Cat
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| Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:57 pm
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the Omrud wrote:
| Quote: | dimestore <dimefudge@sbcglobal.net> spake thusly:
What did gentlemen wear after Goodwood Week was over? One
daren't imagine they might have gone bare-headed. And when did
they start wearing their bowler hats again?
From the late 1800's to the 1930's it was customary for men to wear
straw hats in the summer. Straw boaters
were especially popular up to the '30's, but were quickly surpassed
by the Panama.
For what values of "men"? Like, was it customary in Coventry? I
doubt either of my grandfathers ever owned any straw hats.
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I still own my grandfather's fedora. Pure Bogart, *damn* cool.
DC |
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