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R H Draney
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:05 am    Post subject: Must Reply with quote

We already have threads on "may or can", and on "shall or will", so I thought we
ought to have one to finish out the set of modals....

Carry on....r

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designquest10
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: Must Reply with quote

"We already have threads on "may or can", and on "shall or will",
so I thought we ought to have one to finish out the set of modals..."



Must we?
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Robert Lieblich
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:06 am    Post subject: Re: Must Reply with quote

R H Draney wrote:
Quote:

We already have threads on "may or can", and on "shall or will", so I thought we
ought to have one to finish out the set of modals....

must
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English, from Latin mustum
: the expressed juice of fruit and especially grapes before and during
fermentation; also : the pulp and skins of the crushed grapes

<http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary>

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Bob Lieblich
Feeeling musty

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John O'Flaherty
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:06 am    Post subject: Re: Must Reply with quote

Robert Lieblich wrote:
Quote:
R H Draney wrote:

We already have threads on "may or can", and on "shall or will", so I thought we
ought to have one to finish out the set of modals....

must
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English, from Latin mustum
: the expressed juice of fruit and especially grapes before and during
fermentation; also : the pulp and skins of the crushed grapes

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

--
Bob Lieblich
Feeeling musty


AHD translates that Latin 'mustum' as 'new, fresh', an interesting
contrast to 'musty', which derives from 'moist', which gave rise to a
back-formation 'must' meaning in a musty condition. There are two
other must-mentions- a variant spelling of 'musk', and a variant
spelling of 'musth', a season when male elephants just must.
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john
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Jim Lawton
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Must Reply with quote

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:55:10 -0500, Robert Lieblich
<robert.lieblich@verizon.net> wrote:

Quote:
R H Draney wrote:

We already have threads on "may or can", and on "shall or will", so I thought we
ought to have one to finish out the set of modals....

must
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English, from Latin mustum
: the expressed juice of fruit and especially grapes before and during
fermentation; also : the pulp and skins of the crushed grapes

Then there's the elephanr business ...
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Jim
the polymoth
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Charles Riggs
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Must Reply with quote

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:55:10 -0500, Robert Lieblich
<robert.lieblich@verizon.net> wrote:

Quote:
R H Draney wrote:

We already have threads on "may or can", and on "shall or will", so I thought we
ought to have one to finish out the set of modals....

must
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English, from Latin mustum
: the expressed juice of fruit and especially grapes before and during
fermentation; also : the pulp and skins of the crushed grapes

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

And let us not forget "must: To grow mouldy or musty; to contract a
musty or sour smell", as in "1648 Gage West Ind. xviii. 135 The Wheat
will not keep long without musting and breeding a worm called
Gurgojo", taken from the OED.

Bad boys, those Gurgojo worms.
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Charles Riggs
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designquest10
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Must Reply with quote

"And let us not forget "must: To grow mouldy or musty; to contract a
musty or sour smell", as in "1648 Gage West Ind. xviii. 135 The Wheat
will not keep long without musting and breeding a worm called
Gurgojo", taken from the OED.

Bad boys, those Gurgojo worms."



---> Can mush be very far behind?
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