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Dry Gulch Pete
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:50 pm
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Probably not, but they *may* find his remarks self-deprecating!
Still, as they're *not* the BBC, perhaps it is forgivable! |
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Peter Duncanson
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:14 pm
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On 31 Oct 2005 01:50:54 -0800, "Dry Gulch Pete"
<pacifico@btopenworld.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Probably not, but they *may* find his remarks self-deprecating!
Still, as they're *not* the BBC, perhaps it is forgivable!
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According to various online dictionaries both deprecate and depreciate
can mean "to belittle".
For example
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861603863/depreciate.html
depreciate
3. transitive verb - belittle something or somebody: to speak
critically or disparagingly about something or somebody
and
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861603858/deprecate.html
deprecate
2. Same as depreciate (sense 3)
The phrase normally used is "self deprecating", but "self depreciating"
could have exactly the same meaning.
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Peter Duncanson
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John Dean
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:15 pm
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Peter Duncanson wrote:
| Quote: | On 31 Oct 2005 01:50:54 -0800, "Dry Gulch Pete"
pacifico@btopenworld.com> wrote:
Probably not, but they *may* find his remarks self-deprecating!
Still, as they're *not* the BBC, perhaps it is forgivable!
According to various online dictionaries both deprecate and depreciate
can mean "to belittle".
For example
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861603863/depreciate.html
depreciate
3. transitive verb - belittle something or somebody: to speak
critically or disparagingly about something or somebody
and
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861603858/deprecate.html
deprecate
2. Same as depreciate (sense 3)
The phrase normally used is "self deprecating", but "self
depreciating" could have exactly the same meaning.
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Indeed. Comparing "self deprecatory" with "self depreciatory" OED says:
" Of the two combinations self-depreciatory and self-deprecatory the
former is, strictly speaking, the better-formed, since it reflects the
long-established use of the verb depreciate in the sense 'disparage,
belittle'. The latter combination, however, which reflects the
relatively recent use of deprecate in this sense (see *deprecate v. 3
b), appears from the evidence to be now somewhat the commoner of the
two."
And, of course, when discussing himself Chuck has a lot to be
depreciatory about.
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John Dean
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Dry Gulch Pete
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:57 am
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Oh TIDDLE!  |
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John Dean
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:39 am
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Dry Gulch Pete wrote:
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If only I knew which bit of the thread you were replying to ...
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John Dean
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Dry Gulch Pete
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:54 pm
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John Dean wrote:
| Quote: | Dry Gulch Pete wrote:
Oh TIDDLE! :-(
If only I knew which bit of the thread you were replying to ...
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Both replies - another lash-up! |
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ray o'hara
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:30 am
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"Dry Gulch Pete" <pacifico@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:1130752254.323891.188070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Probably not, but they *may* find his remarks self-deprecating!
Still, as they're *not* the BBC, perhaps it is forgivable!
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What's odd is that they feel our opinon counts. |
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Dry Gulch Pete
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:12 pm
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Dry Gulch Pete wrote:
| Quote: | John Dean wrote:
Dry Gulch Pete wrote:
Oh TIDDLE! :-(
If only I knew which bit of the thread you were replying to ...
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Both replies - another lash-up!
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Listen fellas - OTOH, she may not *know* about self-depreciating, so it
could *still* be a gaff!
We gotta cover all bases! :-D
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Dry Gulch Pete
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:14 pm
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ray o'hara wrote:
| Quote: | "Dry Gulch Pete" <pacifico@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:1130752254.323891.188070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Probably not, but they *may* find his remarks self-deprecating!
Still, as they're *not* the BBC, perhaps it is forgivable!
What's odd is that they feel our opinon counts.
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Not sure if they do, hmm...
Thanks for patronising my thread, btw!
Dry Gulch |
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John Dean
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:35 pm
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Dry Gulch Pete wrote:
| Quote: | Dry Gulch Pete wrote:
John Dean wrote:
Dry Gulch Pete wrote:
Oh TIDDLE! :-(
If only I knew which bit of the thread you were replying to ...
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Both replies - another lash-up!
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Listen fellas - OTOH, she may not *know* about self-depreciating, so
it could *still* be a gaff!
We gotta cover all bases! :-D
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It could be a gaff. It could be a gaffe. If *you* don't know about
"gaffe" then it's definitely a gaff. Which would be a gaffe. Unless you
didn't want to blow the gaff.
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John Dean
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:35 pm
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Dry Gulch Pete wrote:
| Quote: | ray o'hara wrote:
"Dry Gulch Pete" <pacifico@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:1130752254.323891.188070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Probably not, but they *may* find his remarks self-deprecating!
Still, as they're *not* the BBC, perhaps it is forgivable!
What's odd is that they feel our opinon counts.
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Not sure if they do, hmm...
Thanks for patronising my thread, btw!
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We're a very patronising bunch.
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ray o'hara
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:53 pm
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"Dry Gulch Pete" <pacifico@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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ray o'hara wrote:
"Dry Gulch Pete" <pacifico@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:1130752254.323891.188070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Probably not, but they *may* find his remarks self-deprecating!
Still, as they're *not* the BBC, perhaps it is forgivable!
What's odd is that they feel our opinon counts.
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Not sure if they do, hmm...
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He's over here showing the hag.
| Quote: | Thanks for patronising my thread, btw!
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Dry Gulch Pete
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:11 pm
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John Dean wrote:
| Quote: | Dry Gulch Pete wrote:
ray o'hara wrote:
"Dry Gulch Pete" <pacifico@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:1130752254.323891.188070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Probably not, but they *may* find his remarks self-deprecating!
Still, as they're *not* the BBC, perhaps it is forgivable!
What's odd is that they feel our opinon counts.
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Not sure if they do, hmm...
Thanks for patronising my thread, btw!
We're a very patronising bunch.
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Can come in useful!  |
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Nick
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:19 pm
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John Dean wrote:
| Quote: | Dry Gulch Pete wrote:
Dry Gulch Pete wrote:
John Dean wrote:
Dry Gulch Pete wrote:
Oh TIDDLE! :-(
If only I knew which bit of the thread you were replying to ...
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Both replies - another lash-up!
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Listen fellas - OTOH, she may not *know* about self-depreciating, so
it could *still* be a gaff!
We gotta cover all bases! :-D
It could be a gaff. It could be a gaffe. If *you* don't know about
"gaffe" then it's definitely a gaff. Which would be a gaffe. Unless you
didn't want to blow the gaff.
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LOL - I'll check the dictionaries in my gaff! |
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John Dean
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:30 am
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Nick wrote:
| Quote: | John Dean wrote:
Dry Gulch Pete wrote:
Dry Gulch Pete wrote:
John Dean wrote:
Dry Gulch Pete wrote:
Oh TIDDLE! :-(
If only I knew which bit of the thread you were replying to ...
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Both replies - another lash-up!
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Listen fellas - OTOH, she may not *know* about self-depreciating, so
it could *still* be a gaff!
We gotta cover all bases! :-D
It could be a gaff. It could be a gaffe. If *you* don't know about
"gaffe" then it's definitely a gaff. Which would be a gaffe. Unless
you didn't want to blow the gaff.
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LOL - I'll check the dictionaries in my gaff!
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That makes you the gaffer. Don't forget to bring your tape ...
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John Dean
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