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Arkadiusz Dymek
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:06 am
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Hello again.
Seems I'm getting used to this newsgroup 
My question is: has 'little bishop' some specific meaning in english or
should I treat is just as description of some bishop? I have no context
for this term, so I'm just guessing here. I don't have 'little bishop'
described in any of dictionaries, but it seems to be quite common term
in google (and print.google.com - really great source of quotations) so
I have feeling that it's some clergy hierarchical degree or something
like that.
best regards,
Arkadesh
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PR
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:06 am
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"Arkadiusz Dymek" wrote:
| Quote: | Seems I'm getting used to this newsgroup
My question is: has 'little bishop' some specific meaning in english or
should I treat is just as description of some bishop? I have no context
for this term, so I'm just guessing here. I don't have 'little bishop'
described in any of dictionaries, but it seems to be quite common term
in google (and print.google.com - really great source of quotations) so
I have feeling that it's some clergy hierarchical degree or something
like that.
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There's no position in the Church called "little bishop"... and nothing in
relation to chess, as far as I know. Perhaps you could provide some context
so we can know exactly how the author of the phrase intended it. |
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designquest10
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:06 am
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"Seems I'm getting used to this newsgroup
My question is: has 'little bishop' some specific meaning in english or
should I treat is just as description of some bishop? I have no context
for this term, so I'm just guessing here. I don't have 'little bishop'
described in any of dictionaries, but it seems to be quite common term
in google (and print.google.com - really great source of quotations) so
I have feeling that it's some clergy hierarchical degree or something
like that. "
--> Does this have to do with the game of chess?
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Lars Eighner
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:07 am
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In our last episode,
<dk3uda$r2n$1@nemesis.news.tpi.pl>,
the lovely and talented Arkadiusz Dymek
broadcast on alt.usage.english:
| Quote: | Hello again.
Seems I'm getting used to this newsgroup
My question is: has 'little bishop' some specific meaning in english or
should I treat is just as description of some bishop? I have no context
for this term, so I'm just guessing here. I don't have 'little bishop'
described in any of dictionaries, but it seems to be quite common term
in google (and print.google.com - really great source of quotations) so
I have feeling that it's some clergy hierarchical degree or something
like that.
best regards,
Arkadesh
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No. It just means a small bishop. Except when it means penis.
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Lars Eighner eighner@io.com http://www.larseighner.com/
I don't see posts from or threads started from googlegroups.
One thorn of experience is worn a whole wilderness of warning.
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Don Phillipson
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:30 am
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"Arkadiusz Dymek" <arkadesh@go2.removethispart.pl> wrote in message
news:dk3uda$r2n$1@nemesis.news.tpi.pl...
| Quote: | My question is: has 'little bishop' some specific meaning in english or
should I treat is just as description of some bishop? I have no context
for this term, so I'm just guessing here.
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Without context, we cannot help. We do not know if you
mean a small chessman, a Boy Bishop (person in a church
choir annual festival in mediaeval England) or something else.
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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada) |
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Arkadiusz Dymek
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Little bishop |
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PR wrote:
| Quote: | "Arkadiusz Dymek" wrote:
There's no position in the Church called "little bishop"... and nothing in
relation to chess, as far as I know. Perhaps you could provide some context
so we can know exactly how the author of the phrase intended it.
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'She never used any of the Anglo-Saxon words [it's about an Irish girl
and english cursing earlier] in the presence of my parents or, heaven
save us all, int the presence of her parents or the little bishop'.
Not much context as you can see... but as it's just a bit of bigger
entity (and I don't have access to full text) I have to assume, the
bishop got described earlier and his physical attributes should be well
known to the reader at this moment.
cheers,
Arkadesh |
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CDB
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:03 pm
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"Arkadiusz Dymek" <arkadesh@go2.removethispart.pl> wrote in message
news:dk3uda$r2n$1@nemesis.news.tpi.pl...
| Quote: | Hello again.
Seems I'm getting used to this newsgroup
My question is: has 'little bishop' some specific meaning in english
or should I treat is just as description of some bishop? I have no
context for this term, so I'm just guessing here. I don't have
'little bishop' described in any of dictionaries, but it seems to be
quite common term in google (and print.google.com - really great
source of quotations) so I have feeling that it's some clergy
hierarchical degree or something like that.
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If you dropped in at the Cratchitt's just before Christmas and they
asked you if you would like a drink, you could say, "Just a little
bishop, please," knowing that they hadn't much gin to spare. Apart
from that, it means dick to me. |
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Donna Richoux
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:04 pm
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Arkadiusz Dymek <arkadesh@go2.removethispart.pl> wrote:
| Quote: | PR wrote:
"Arkadiusz Dymek" wrote:
There's no position in the Church called "little bishop"... and nothing in
relation to chess, as far as I know. Perhaps you could provide some context
so we can know exactly how the author of the phrase intended it.
'She never used any of the Anglo-Saxon words [it's about an Irish girl
and english cursing earlier] in the presence of my parents or, heaven
save us all, int the presence of her parents or the little bishop'.
Not much context as you can see... but as it's just a bit of bigger
entity (and I don't have access to full text) I have to assume, the
bishop got described earlier and his physical attributes should be well
known to the reader at this moment.
What's that from? Amazon.com says that "the little bishop" is a |
recurring character in the novels of Andrew M. Greeley.
Friends from other Greeley series also make cameo appearances,
including "the little bishop" (Blackwood "Blackie" Ryan.)
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Best -- Donna Richoux |
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Peter Duncanson
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:30 pm
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:54:29 +0100, Arkadiusz Dymek
<arkadesh@go2.removethispart.pl> wrote:
| Quote: | PR wrote:
"Arkadiusz Dymek" wrote:
There's no position in the Church called "little bishop"... and nothing in
relation to chess, as far as I know. Perhaps you could provide some context
so we can know exactly how the author of the phrase intended it.
'She never used any of the Anglo-Saxon words [it's about an Irish girl
and english cursing earlier] in the presence of my parents or, heaven
save us all, int the presence of her parents or the little bishop'.
I can think of some possibilities. The 'little bishop' might be: |
1. a real bishop who is physically small,
2. a priest who behaves as though he is a bishop,
3. a person who is very religious and has been given the nickname
'little bishop'.
There is a series of books by Andrew M. McGreely - the Nuala Anne
McGrail Novels, set in Chicago. One of the characters in the stories is
"the little bishop" (Blackwood "Blackie" Ryan).
I got that information is from the Amazon website, using Google.
At the moment I can't access either amazon.com or amazon.co.uk, however
here is the link to the details of the book:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0812576071?v=glance
The webpage is cached by google at:
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:XZOuniclvOQJ:www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0812576071%3Fv%3Dglance+%22the+little+bishop%22&hl=en
| Quote: | Not much context as you can see... but as it's just a bit of bigger
entity (and I don't have access to full text) I have to assume, the
bishop got described earlier and his physical attributes should be well
known to the reader at this moment.
cheers,
Arkadesh
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Peter Duncanson
UK (posting from a.u.e) |
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Arkadiusz Dymek
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:48 pm
Post subject: Re: Little bishop |
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Donna Richoux wrote:
| Quote: | What's that from? Amazon.com says that "the little bishop" is a
recurring character in the novels of Andrew M. Greeley.
Friends from other Greeley series also make cameo appearances,
including "the little bishop" (Blackwood "Blackie" Ryan.)
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Thanks for the info. I got only short sample so I haven't known the
context. Now it seems quite clear to me.
cheers,
Arkadesh |
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designquest10
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:43 pm
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There's no position in the Church called "little bishop"... and nothing
in
relation to chess, as far as I know.
--> I am no expert on Chess. I do think, though, that there is
a move called the "King's gambit" -- and, there a related
version called the "Little Bishop's gambit."
It may not apply in anyway to this passage. |
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JF
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:25 am
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In message <1130769832.546034.181980@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
designquest10 <dhk64@yahoo.com> writes
| Quote: | There's no position in the Church called "little bishop"... and nothing
in
relation to chess, as far as I know.
--> I am no expert on Chess. I do think, though, that there is
a move called the "King's gambit" -- and, there a related
version called the "Little Bishop's gambit."
It may not apply in anyway to this passage.
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Did you see the way in which Miss Dunaway handled a bishop in the film
"The Thos Crown Affair"? Filth, I tell you, downright filth. Hardly the
sort of thing one would want ones servants to see. Small wonder that it
had to be remade.
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James Follett. Novelist. (G1LXP) http://www.jamesfollett.dswilliams.co.uk |
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jerry_friedman@yahoo.com
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:12 am
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designquest10 wrote:
| Quote: | There's no position in the Church called "little bishop"... and nothing
in
relation to chess, as far as I know.
--> I am no expert on Chess. I do think, though, that there is
a move called the "King's gambit" -- and, there a related
version called the "Little Bishop's gambit."
It may not apply in anyway to this passage.
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Almost certainly not. However, the King's Gambit is 1. e4 e5 2. f4,
and Google thinks the Little Bishop's Gambit is the continuation 2.
....exf4 3. Be2. (The regular Bishop's Gambit is the variation with 3.
Bc4.)
--
Jerry Friedman knew you'd be interested. |
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