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R H Draney
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:30 am
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Robin Bignall filted:
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On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 21:35:27 GMT, the Omrud <usenet.omrud@gmail.com
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What? There's a hex Sudoku in the Independent? I may have to
abandon my "no newspapers" policy.
It shouldn't be any easier or harder than standard Sudoku. A recent
article in The Times stated that the game can be based around any set
of nine different symbols. The rules stay the same - no symbol can be
used twice in any row, column or 3 by 3 grid.
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I now know more about the rules for this form of foolishness than I have ever
known before (the 3x3 restriction)...I trust this will not actually give me the
desire to *work* one of the damned things; OCD feeds on this sort of thing....r
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Paul Wolff
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:31 am
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In message <Xns9701E9830B6AAwhhvans@62.253.170.163>, Harvey Van Sickle
<harvey.news@ntlworld.com> writes
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There's one on the cover disc of "Computer Shopper" as well. I've not
loaded it -- I'm a crossword sort, not a number-puzzle type, as it
seems to me that Sudokus are probably solvable in split seconds by a
relatively straightforward bit of programming.
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The only opportunity for flair is in spotting which empty square (are
they called lights?) is the next one available for solution by the
application of simple rules.
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A propos of which, here's a clue from today's Guardian crossword, which
I suspect a program would probably find more difficult to solve:
A distraction of questionable kudos anyone can see. (6)
I can't. Presumably an anagram of kudos and the letter "u" which I |
don't derive from "anyone can see" unless "u" is alleged to be texting
code for "anyone".
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Paul
In bocca al Lupo! |
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Laura F. Spira
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:12 am
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Robin Bignall wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 21:35:27 GMT, the Omrud <usenet.omrud@gmail.com
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Colum Mylod <cmylod@despammed.comREMOVE> spake thusly:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:23:01 -0500, sage <sage@allstream.net> wrote:
Jordan Abel wrote:
[time]
Then there's the packed hex format: 7E90 - though it can go to five
digits (there are, after all, 15180 seconds in a day) it also
encodes the seconds, and if you leave out the seconds you get it
down to three digits: 9am is 21C, and the day has a total of of 5a0
minutes.
Where is this used? It looks cumbersome. Why would common folk want to
learn it?
Target audience are the few who do the hexadecimal Soduku in the
Independent.
What? There's a hex Sudoku in the Independent? I may have to
abandon my "no newspapers" policy.
It shouldn't be any easier or harder than standard Sudoku. A recent
article in The Times stated that the game can be based around any set
of nine different symbols. The rules stay the same - no symbol can be
used twice in any row, column or 3 by 3 grid.
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The program I have - which is the one used to generate the puzzles in
the Times - also generates puzzles of any size from 4x4 to 16x16. One of
the weekend papers prints big grids which combine letters and numbers.
What I can't work out is what differentiates the really tough (standard)
ones from the easy ones: I think it has something to do with the number
repeats but it can be quite straightforward to complete a grid with one
number missing completely and really difficult when there seem to be far
fewer spaces to fill in.
It's a fascinating cultural phenomenon. These puzzles have been around
for years, as any subscriber to publications like "Games and Puzzles" in
the US or "Tough Puzzles" in the UK knows. Their sudden popularity is
remarkable.
--
Laura
(emulate St. George for email)
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Maria Conlon
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:12 am
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R H Draney wrote:
| Quote: | Robin Bignall filted:
the Omrud wrote:
What? There's a hex Sudoku in the Independent? I may have to
abandon my "no newspapers" policy.
It shouldn't be any easier or harder than standard Sudoku. A recent
article in The Times stated that the game can be based around any set
of nine different symbols. The rules stay the same - no symbol can
be used twice in any row, column or 3 by 3 grid.
I now know more about the rules for this form of foolishness than I
have ever known before (the 3x3 restriction)...I trust this will not
actually give me the desire to *work* one of the damned things; OCD
feeds on this sort of thing....r
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I've just recently discovered Sudokus. They run in the Detroit News
every day.
My name is Maria and I am hooked. |
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Harvey Van Sickle
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:24 pm
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On 02 Nov 2005, Paul Wolff wrote
re: crossword clue
| Quote: | A distraction of questionable kudos anyone can see. (6)
I can't. Presumably an anagram of kudos and the letter "u"
which I don't derive from "anyone can see" unless "u" is
alleged to be texting code for "anyone".
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It's older than texting -- it's clueing for "universal", as in a U-
joint.
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Cheers, Harvey
Canadian (30 years) and British (23 years)
For e-mail, change harvey.news to harvey.van |
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ArWeGod
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:37 pm
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"Maria Conlon" <maria.c-b@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:sMW9f.3323$Lv.684@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
| Quote: | R H Draney wrote:
Robin Bignall filted:
the Omrud wrote:
What? There's a hex Sudoku in the Independent? I may have to
abandon my "no newspapers" policy.
It shouldn't be any easier or harder than standard Sudoku. A
recent
article in The Times stated that the game can be based around any
set
of nine different symbols. The rules stay the same - no symbol can
be used twice in any row, column or 3 by 3 grid.
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Yes, but that wouldn't be very nice.
| Quote: | I now know more about the rules for this form of foolishness than I
have ever known before (the 3x3 restriction)...I trust this will not
actually give me the desire to *work* one of the damned things; OCD
feeds on this sort of thing....
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There's a point where you get the hang of the thing. Hand made puzzles
are better / harder ("evil" level) than just random puzzles.
I have considered a game for the Palm OS, but I don't think a random
computer driven puzzle is any fun, since I have done some that are just
stupid. But I have considered making a program to let you put a
newspaper puzzle into a kind of "notepad" puzzle tool so you can undo
and check for wrong moves and stuff. A puzzle editor, if you will.
I just don't know if it would sell at all, since paper is cheap. And my
idea doesn't involve actually providing a game, which all the other ones
do...
Let me know if this seems at all interesting - you would have to put the
puzzle in yourself, mind. But I would let you save a current puzzle and
beam one to another person.
| Quote: | My name is Maria and I am hooked.
My name is ArWePainful and I would like to help cause your pain. And I |
will build you a tool to make your pain easier to achieve, if you will
pay me $10.
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ArWePainful |
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Donna Richoux
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:40 pm
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the Omrud <usenet.omrud@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | trends. But I am drawn towards anything based on hex because of my
profession.
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Witch profession? |
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the Omrud
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:57 pm
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Donna Richoux <trio@euronet.nl> spake thusly:
| Quote: | the Omrud <usenet.omrud@gmail.com> wrote:
trends. But I am drawn towards anything based on hex because of my
profession.
Witch profession?
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No, I don't do that any more (anymore), since the trouble with the
goat.
The evening of October 31st being of little importance in my UK
upbringing, and having returned from holiday in Greece less than 24
hours before, we were unprepared for the hordes of tiny and less-tiny
children who descended on us from tea time onwards on Monday, making
vague threats of criminal damage. We happened to have a dozen
Penguins, but once these were exhausted, we had to go out for the
rest of the evening to avoid the little monsters.
Rather than reenact a wholesome family festival from the US, the UK
child buys a plastic face mask for 50p, pulls his hoodie over his
head and then demands chocolate with menaces. I wouldn't mind the
full thing, but we seem to have created a watered-down and
meaningless form which our culture simply doesn't recognise.
</rant>
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David
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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:39 pm
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Laura F. Spira wrote:
[...]
| Quote: | It's a fascinating cultural phenomenon. These puzzles have been
around
for years, as any subscriber to publications like "Games and
Puzzles"
in the US or "Tough Puzzles" in the UK knows. Their sudden
popularity
is remarkable.
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Now try the latest cranium-cracking craze from the Land of the Rising
Sun:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1606409,00.html
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the Omrud
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:45 pm
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Mike Lyle <mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> spake thusly:
| Quote: | Laura F. Spira wrote:
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It's a fascinating cultural phenomenon. These puzzles have been
around for years, as any subscriber to publications like "Games and
Puzzles" in the US or "Tough Puzzles" in the UK knows. Their sudden
popularity is remarkable.
Now try the latest cranium-cracking craze from the Land of the Rising
Sun:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1606409,00.html
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It looks very fiendish, and I don't have time to study it to the
required level, but I feel that it's probably based on binary, rather
than hex.
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David
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ArWeGod
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:25 pm
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"the Omrud" <usenet.omrud@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1dd2c50e1c62d1c098a1c0@news.ntlworld.com...
"So simple a cat can play it, but only a genius can truly understand it"
Well.. I was getting bored with Soduku, as I was writting a Palm
version. You could tell the hand-crafted puzzles from the randomly
generated ones. I have not seen these, but they sound... fun. Play
me...?
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Linz
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:09 pm
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Laura F. Spira wrote:
| Quote: | the Omrud wrote:
What? There's a hex Sudoku in the Independent? I may have to
abandon my "no newspapers" policy.
You can have my copy of the free disk with the Sudoku program they
gave away if you like - then you wouldn't have to buy the paper. I
prefer the Times program - the very hard 9x9s are still a challenge.
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For 9x9 Sudoku I tend to go to www.websudoku.com - the Evil ones are pretty
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Laura F. Spira
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:37 pm
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Mike Lyle wrote:
| Quote: | Laura F. Spira wrote:
[...]
It's a fascinating cultural phenomenon. These puzzles have been
around
for years, as any subscriber to publications like "Games and
Puzzles"
in the US or "Tough Puzzles" in the UK knows. Their sudden
popularity
is remarkable.
Now try the latest cranium-cracking craze from the Land of the Rising
Sun:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1606409,00.html
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Isn't that brilliant? I think Tim Dowling is excellent.
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Laura
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Mark Brader
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:25 am
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Harvey Van Sickle quotes:
| Quote: | A distraction of questionable kudos anyone can see. (6)
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Paul Wolff comments:
| Quote: | Presumably an anagram of kudos and the letter "u"
which I don't derive from "anyone can see" unless "u" is
alleged to be texting code for "anyone".
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Harvey Van Sickle explains:
| Quote: | It's older than texting -- it's clueing for "universal", as in a U-
joint.
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Oh! No, "U = Universal" as in the British equivalent of a G-rated movie.
One that "anyone can see", get it?
--
Mark Brader | "We may take pride in observing that there is
Toronto | not a single film showing in London today which
msb@vex.net | deals with one of the burning issues of the day."
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sage
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:49 am
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the Omrud wrote:
| Quote: | Laura F. Spira <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> spake thusly:
the Omrud wrote:
Colum Mylod <cmylod@despammed.comREMOVE> spake thusly:
Target audience are the few who do the hexadecimal Soduku in the
Independent.
What? There's a hex Sudoku in the Independent? I may have to
abandon my "no newspapers" policy.
You can have my copy of the free disk with the Sudoku program they gave
away if you like - then you wouldn't have to buy the paper. I prefer the
Times program - the very hard 9x9s are still a challenge.
Thanks, but there's also one on the front of this month's PC Pro (or
similar) which I haven't loaded yet. Actually, I've never essayed a
single Sudoku as I am congenitally inclined to stay away from popular
trends. But I am drawn towards anything based on hex because of my
profession.
So what's your profession? If you tell me that, then I'll be a step |
closer to getting an answer to my original question.
Cheers, Sage (FWIW: There's also a sodutoo in The Globe and Mail.) |
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