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Paul Wolff
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:58 am
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In message <11mi865p1lis0b@corp.supernews.com>, Mark Brader
<msb@vex.net> writes
| Quote: | Harvey Van Sickle quotes:
A distraction of questionable kudos anyone can see. (6)
Paul Wolff comments:
Presumably an anagram of kudos and the letter "u"
which I don't derive from "anyone can see" unless "u" is
alleged to be texting code for "anyone".
Harvey Van Sickle explains:
It's older than texting -- it's clueing for "universal", as in a U-
joint.
Oh! No, "U = Universal" as in the British equivalent of a G-rated movie.
One that "anyone can see", get it?
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IC2, now.
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Paul
In bocca al Lupo!
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the Omrud
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:10 am
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sage <sage@allstream.net> spake thusly:
| Quote: | the Omrud wrote:
Thanks, but there's also one on the front of this month's PC Pro (or
similar) which I haven't loaded yet. Actually, I've never essayed a
single Sudoku as I am congenitally inclined to stay away from popular
trends. But I am drawn towards anything based on hex because of my
profession.
So what's your profession? If you tell me that, then I'll be a step
closer to getting an answer to my original question.
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It's not a secret - I didn't repeat it because I've so often
commented on it here. I am a grown-up IT techie - what is called in
the industry an "enterprise IT architect". I have the responsibility
for the design of the interworking of all the IT components for a
large multinational company which itself happens to sell IT services
(this fact causes me the vast majority of my working day problems).
But 30 years ago I was a mainframe application developer - that is, I
created and ran mainframe computer systems for large scale business
use, such as stock control, payroll, general ledgers. I started out
as a mainframe programmer (there were no PCs 30 years ago).
The mainframes on which I worked didn't use the ASCII which is
familiar on the net, but the hexadecimal equivalent. For more than a
decade, I worked in hex representation of binary. So, to answer your
question, ordinary people don't need to know hex, but mainframe
programmers do.
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sage
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:05 am
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the Omrud wrote:
| Quote: | sage <sage@allstream.net> spake thusly:
the Omrud wrote:
Thanks, but there's also one on the front of this month's PC Pro (or
similar) which I haven't loaded yet. Actually, I've never essayed a
single Sudoku as I am congenitally inclined to stay away from popular
trends. But I am drawn towards anything based on hex because of my
profession.
So what's your profession? If you tell me that, then I'll be a step
closer to getting an answer to my original question.
It's not a secret - I didn't repeat it because I've so often
commented on it here. I am a grown-up IT techie - what is called in
the industry an "enterprise IT architect". I have the responsibility
for the design of the interworking of all the IT components for a
large multinational company which itself happens to sell IT services
(this fact causes me the vast majority of my working day problems).
But 30 years ago I was a mainframe application developer - that is, I
created and ran mainframe computer systems for large scale business
use, such as stock control, payroll, general ledgers. I started out
as a mainframe programmer (there were no PCs 30 years ago).
The mainframes on which I worked didn't use the ASCII which is
familiar on the net, but the hexadecimal equivalent. For more than a
decade, I worked in hex representation of binary. So, to answer your
question, ordinary people don't need to know hex, but mainframe
programmers do.
Thank you, David. Now I get it. A *bit* more than 30 years ago (when its |
computers ran on valves -- AmE toobs), I worked for IBM on the
engineering side, not as a programmer. Mercifully for both Big Blue and
me, I decided we were not a perfect match and found alternative employment.
Cheers, Sage
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sage
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:06 am
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the Omrud wrote:
| Quote: | sage <sage@allstream.net> spake thusly:
the Omrud wrote:
Thanks, but there's also one on the front of this month's PC Pro (or
similar) which I haven't loaded yet. Actually, I've never essayed a
single Sudoku as I am congenitally inclined to stay away from popular
trends. But I am drawn towards anything based on hex because of my
profession.
So what's your profession? If you tell me that, then I'll be a step
closer to getting an answer to my original question.
It's not a secret - I didn't repeat it because I've so often
commented on it here. I am a grown-up IT techie - what is called in
the industry an "enterprise IT architect". I have the responsibility
for the design of the interworking of all the IT components for a
large multinational company which itself happens to sell IT services
(this fact causes me the vast majority of my working day problems).
But 30 years ago I was a mainframe application developer - that is, I
created and ran mainframe computer systems for large scale business
use, such as stock control, payroll, general ledgers. I started out
as a mainframe programmer (there were no PCs 30 years ago).
The mainframes on which I worked didn't use the ASCII which is
familiar on the net, but the hexadecimal equivalent. For more than a
decade, I worked in hex representation of binary. So, to answer your
question, ordinary people don't need to know hex, but mainframe
programmers do.
And yes, I caught the its for it's but too late to stop transmission. |
Cheers, Sage |
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Ross Howard
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:39 am
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On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:58:28 +0000, Paul Wolff
<bounceme@two.wolff.co.uk> wrought:
| Quote: | In message <11mi865p1lis0b@corp.supernews.com>, Mark Brader
msb@vex.net> writes
Harvey Van Sickle quotes:
A distraction of questionable kudos anyone can see. (6)
Paul Wolff comments:
Presumably an anagram of kudos and the letter "u"
which I don't derive from "anyone can see" unless "u" is
alleged to be texting code for "anyone".
Harvey Van Sickle explains:
It's older than texting -- it's clueing for "universal", as in a U-
joint.
Oh! No, "U = Universal" as in the British equivalent of a G-rated movie.
One that "anyone can see", get it?
IC2, now.
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Separately having to clue a letter left over from a near anagram
should tell a crossword compiler one thing: forget about anagrams and
do it some other way.
And that was in the Guardian? Good grief. The rot truly has set in.
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:49 am
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Linz filted:
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For 9x9 Sudoku I tend to go to www.websudoku.com - the Evil ones are pretty
challenging.
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And there are no non-Evil ones...OCD, remember?...r |
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Sara Lorimer
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:09 am
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Linz <spam@lindsayendell.org.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | For 9x9 Sudoku I tend to go to www.websudoku.com - the Evil ones are pretty
challenging.
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So much for my chances of ever getting any work done...
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Maria Conlon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:09 am
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sage wrote:
| Quote: | And yes, I caught the its for it's but too late to stop transmission.
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In your reply? Where? (I saw only a correct "its," but that doesn't mean
anything. I can read right over errors with no effort at all.)
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Mark Brader
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:29 pm
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Harvey Van Sickle quotes:
| Quote: | A distraction of questionable kudos anyone can see. (6)
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Ross Howard writes:
| Quote: | Separately having to clue
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You mean "Having to separately clue".
| Quote: | a letter left over from a near anagram should tell a crossword
compiler one thing: forget about anagrams and do it some other way.
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An odd comment. This sort of construction is perfectly normal.
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Mark Brader, Toronto "No victor believes in chance."
msb@vex.net -- Nietzsche (trans. Kaufmann) |
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Ross Howard
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:39 pm
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 08:29:06 -0000, msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrought:
| Quote: | Harvey Van Sickle quotes:
A distraction of questionable kudos anyone can see. (6)
Ross Howard writes:
Separately having to clue
You mean "Having to separately clue".
a letter left over from a near anagram should tell a crossword
compiler one thing: forget about anagrams and do it some other way.
An odd comment. This sort of construction is perfectly normal.
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In The Guardian crossword?
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Mark Brader
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:52 pm
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Mark Brader:
| Quote: | An odd comment. This sort of construction is perfectly normal.
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Ross Howard:
| Quote: | In The Guardian crossword?
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In properly run crosswords.
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msb@vex.net | "any one *I've* ever used..." -- Steve Summit |
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sage
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:56 pm
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Maria Conlon wrote:
| Quote: | sage wrote:
And yes, I caught the its for it's but too late to stop transmission.
In your reply? Where? (I saw only a correct "its," but that doesn't mean
anything. I can read right over errors with no effort at all.)
It's the old excuse: More haste, less speed. I was seeing things; you |
were kind enough to get me off the hook.
Thanks.
Cheers, Sage |
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Paul Wolff
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:32 am
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In message <11mjjv0aefm9fdf@corp.supernews.com>, Mark Brader
<msb@vex.net> writes
| Quote: | Mark Brader:
An odd comment. This sort of construction is perfectly normal.
Ross Howard:
In The Guardian crossword?
In properly run crosswords.
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It is in the acceptable zone, given that the "u" being clued by the
subsequent phrase was suffix to the anagram. But it wasn't an elegant
clue.
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Paul
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Ross Howard
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:47 am
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On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 20:32:37 +0000, Paul Wolff
<bounceme@two.wolff.co.uk> wrought:
| Quote: | In message <11mjjv0aefm9fdf@corp.supernews.com>, Mark Brader
msb@vex.net> writes
Mark Brader:
An odd comment. This sort of construction is perfectly normal.
Ross Howard:
In The Guardian crossword?
In properly run crosswords.
It is in the acceptable zone, given that the "u" being clued by the
subsequent phrase was suffix to the anagram. But it wasn't an elegant
clue.
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I should stress I'm not against partially clued internal anagrams, but
-- call me a traditionalist -- to me an anagram plus just one stray
letter left over isn't an internal anagram, it's a failed anagram.
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Jordan Abel
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:11 pm
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On 2005-11-01, Robin Bignall <docrobin@ntlworld.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 21:35:27 GMT, the Omrud <usenet.omrud@gmail.com
wrote:
Colum Mylod <cmylod@despammed.comREMOVE> spake thusly:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:23:01 -0500, sage <sage@allstream.net> wrote:
Jordan Abel wrote:
[time]
Then there's the packed hex format: 7E90 - though it can go to five
digits (there are, after all, 15180 seconds in a day) it also
encodes the seconds, and if you leave out the seconds you get it
down to three digits: 9am is 21C, and the day has a total of of 5a0
minutes.
Where is this used? It looks cumbersome. Why would common folk want to
learn it?
Target audience are the few who do the hexadecimal Soduku in the
Independent.
What? There's a hex Sudoku in the Independent? I may have to
abandon my "no newspapers" policy.
It shouldn't be any easier or harder than standard Sudoku. A recent
article in The Times stated that the game can be based around any set
of nine different symbols. The rules stay the same - no symbol can be
used twice in any row, column or 3 by 3 grid.
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My guess at hearing "hex sudoku" was of 4x4 grids and 16 symbols. |
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