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Musashi
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:48 am
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| Quote: | Just out of vulgar curiosity, I'm intrigued by your database. They
say the latest version of the Oxford English Dictionary on Historical
Principles cost them 34 million quid; so, if you plan to compete, you
may need deep pockets.
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Mike.
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Nothing quite so elaborate.
Something called Wordnet already has much of what I want.
I must say I'm a little miffed that I can't at least download Samuel
Johnson's
magnum opus - you might think it would be readily available.
Thanks
J
"Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Musashi wrote:
I have a de facto thesaurus from 1830-ish, hard copy -- Can it be
that different from what you want? Any words in mind?
~Iain
Thanks, I should have been more explicit - I require an online copy
I
can download so that I can add the words to a database that I'm
building.
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Just out of vulgar curiosity, I'm intrigued by your database. They
say the latest version of the Oxford English Dictionary on Historical
Principles cost them 34 million quid; so, if you plan to compete, you
may need deep pockets.
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Mike.
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Donna Richoux
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:12 pm
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Musashi <musashi@okogyo.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Just out of vulgar curiosity, I'm intrigued by your database. They
say the latest version of the Oxford English Dictionary on Historical
Principles cost them 34 million quid; so, if you plan to compete, you
may need deep pockets.
Nothing quite so elaborate.
Something called Wordnet already has much of what I want.
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Good, but I never thought of that one as "historical".
I wondered if you'd come across this list:
http://angli02.kgw.tu-berlin.de/lexicography/b_history.html
A Brief History of English Lexicography
The entries are not links, but it gives you some idea of what
dictionaries were made when.
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I must say I'm a little miffed that I can't at least download Samuel
Johnson's
magnum opus - you might think it would be readily available.
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Yes, so many classic books are available for free, it was a surprise to
me to learn that no one had put Johnson's Dictionary on the web -- only
in a for-sale version. However, since it's old, no one would stop you
from typing it all from a printed copy... Ha, ha.
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Best -- Donna Richoux |
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Isabelle Cecchini
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:39 pm
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Donna Richoux a écrit :
| Quote: | Musashi <musashi@okogyo.net> wrote:
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I must say I'm a little miffed that I can't at least download Samuel
Johnson's magnum opus - you might think it would be readily available.
Yes, so many classic books are available for free, it was a surprise to
me to learn that no one had put Johnson's Dictionary on the web -- only
in a for-sale version.
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Johnson's dictionary can be consulted online --not downloaded--
here:http://www.cblprojects.com/jd/
It's an experimental project; the interface is still really slow and
clunky. The "search" function works, though. What you need is just a bit
a patience.
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Isabelle Cecchini |
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Iain
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:19 pm
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Donna Richoux wrote:
| Quote: | Musashi <musashi@okogyo.net> wrote:
Just out of vulgar curiosity, I'm intrigued by your database. They
say the latest version of the Oxford English Dictionary on Historical
Principles cost them 34 million quid; so, if you plan to compete, you
may need deep pockets.
Nothing quite so elaborate.
Something called Wordnet already has much of what I want.
Good, but I never thought of that one as "historical".
I wondered if you'd come across this list:
http://angli02.kgw.tu-berlin.de/lexicography/b_history.html
A Brief History of English Lexicography
The entries are not links, but it gives you some idea of what
dictionaries were made when.
I must say I'm a little miffed that I can't at least download Samuel
Johnson's
magnum opus - you might think it would be readily available.
Yes, so many classic books are available for free, it was a surprise to
me to learn that no one had put Johnson's Dictionary on the web -- only
in a for-sale version. However, since it's old, no one would stop you
from typing it all from a printed copy... Ha, ha.
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Blackadder tried rewriting it once after Baldrick unwittingly threw the
master copy on the fire. Sadly it was tarnished by Baldrick's input,
such as "C : Big blue wobbly thing that mermaids live in", and "Dog:
Not a cat".
~Iain |
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Donna Richoux
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:44 pm
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Isabelle Cecchini <isabelle.cecchini@wanaNOSPAM.invalid> wrote:
| Quote: | Johnson's dictionary can be consulted online --not downloaded--
here:http://www.cblprojects.com/jd/
It's an experimental project; the interface is still really slow and
clunky. The "search" function works, though. What you need is just a bit
a patience.
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Well, that was good to hear about, but unfortunately, it doesn't work on
my machine. The "Browsing" section never gets past "Applet started," and
the Search section gets hung up in the dreaded "Internet Zone."
It might be because I still have an old system on my Mac -- in the last
week or two, I've reached sites that tell me I must have software
requiring System 10. I'm going to have to update.
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Best -- Donna Richoux |
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Musashi
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:13 pm
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Donna, make sure you have the latest version of Java installed.
I could give you instructions for a PC but unfortunately I know little
about Macs.
Jim
"Donna Richoux" <trio@euronet.nl> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Isabelle Cecchini <isabelle.cecchini@wanaNOSPAM.invalid> wrote:
Johnson's dictionary can be consulted online --not downloaded--
here:http://www.cblprojects.com/jd/
It's an experimental project; the interface is still really slow and
clunky. The "search" function works, though. What you need is just a bit
a patience.
Well, that was good to hear about, but unfortunately, it doesn't work on
my machine. The "Browsing" section never gets past "Applet started," and
the Search section gets hung up in the dreaded "Internet Zone."
It might be because I still have an old system on my Mac -- in the last
week or two, I've reached sites that tell me I must have software
requiring System 10. I'm going to have to update.
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Best -- Donna Richoux |
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Musashi
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:37 pm
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Yes, so many classic books are available for free, it was a surprise to
| Quote: | me to learn that no one had put Johnson's Dictionary on the web -- only
in a for-sale version. However, since it's old, no one would stop you
from typing it all from a printed copy... Ha, ha.
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Best -- Donna Richoux
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Hee Hee, well no thank you, I type fast but not quite that fast.
Jim Pannozzi
"Donna Richoux" <trio@euronet.nl> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Musashi <musashi@okogyo.net> wrote:
Just out of vulgar curiosity, I'm intrigued by your database. They
say the latest version of the Oxford English Dictionary on Historical
Principles cost them 34 million quid; so, if you plan to compete, you
may need deep pockets.
Nothing quite so elaborate.
Something called Wordnet already has much of what I want.
Good, but I never thought of that one as "historical".
I wondered if you'd come across this list:
http://angli02.kgw.tu-berlin.de/lexicography/b_history.html
A Brief History of English Lexicography
The entries are not links, but it gives you some idea of what
dictionaries were made when.
I must say I'm a little miffed that I can't at least download Samuel
Johnson's
magnum opus - you might think it would be readily available.
Yes, so many classic books are available for free, it was a surprise to
me to learn that no one had put Johnson's Dictionary on the web -- only
in a for-sale version. However, since it's old, no one would stop you
from typing it all from a printed copy... Ha, ha.
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Best -- Donna Richoux |
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Isabelle Cecchini
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:20 am
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Musashi a écrit :
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I'm a cheap bastard and, knowing the Internet, I know its out there
somewhere.
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About Webster's 1828 dictionary: it seems to be the preserve of an
American Christian group --I don't really know how they managed to get
what appears to be exclusive rights to a text which should be in the
public domain by now, but I know precious little about copyright
issues--; apart from accessing the dictionary via the Internet, or
buying a copy on a CD-Rom, there is a third option, which is to go to
http://www.e-sword.net/index.html
You will first have to download the free e-sword software, which is a
Bible-reading software, then choose the Webster's 1828 from the list of
dictionaries, given for free.
Warnings: 1. I found that downloading the software --but not the
dictionary-- was really very very slow ; 2. The reference to "the Sword
of the Lord" might be thought a bit off-putting by some.
That being said, it might be worth your while. The list (I think) in the
dictionary file is labelled with a ".dic" extension, which I can't do
anything with, but a computer wizard --as I suspect you might be-- might
be able to extract some useful data from it.
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Isabelle Cecchini |
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Don Aitken
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:19 am
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On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:20:49 +0100, Isabelle Cecchini
<isabelle.cecchini@wanaNOSPAM.invalid> wrote:
| Quote: | Musashi a écrit :
[...]
I'm a cheap bastard and, knowing the Internet, I know its out there
somewhere.
About Webster's 1828 dictionary: it seems to be the preserve of an
American Christian group --I don't really know how they managed to get
what appears to be exclusive rights to a text which should be in the
public domain by now, but I know precious little about copyright
issues--
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They don't have exclusive rights to the text, just to their own
digital version. If anyone else wants to OCR it, and put it online
free, they can. I have done that myself with a book which was only
available on a pay site - so people who want Adams and Stephens
"Select Documents of English Constitutional History" can still go to
http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=6081828 and pay, or they can go to
http://home.freeuk.net/don-aitken/ast/astintro.html and read it for
nothing.
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Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com" |
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Sara Lorimer
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| Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:06 am
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Donna Richoux <trio@euronet.nl> wrote:
| Quote: | Isabelle Cecchini <isabelle.cecchini@wanaNOSPAM.invalid> wrote:
Johnson's dictionary can be consulted online --not downloaded--
here:http://www.cblprojects.com/jd/
It's an experimental project; the interface is still really slow and
clunky. The "search" function works, though. What you need is just a bit
a patience.
Well, that was good to hear about, but unfortunately, it doesn't work on
my machine. The "Browsing" section never gets past "Applet started," and
the Search section gets hung up in the dreaded "Internet Zone."
It might be because I still have an old system on my Mac -- in the last
week or two, I've reached sites that tell me I must have software
requiring System 10. I'm going to have to update.
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That isn't the problem. It isn't working on mine either, and I've got OS
10.3.9.
Nonetheless, update! It's so much prettier.
--
SML |
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