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Quidnunc
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:30 pm
Post subject: OT: Place name meanings |
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Google can't help except to offer a book which might. Trying to find the
origin or meaning of the London district of Pimlico - any offers? Many other
districts listed but not this one.
JJ
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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Place name meanings |
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Quidnunc wrote:
| Quote: | Google can't help except to offer a book which might. Trying to
find
the origin or meaning of the London district of Pimlico - any
offers?
Many other districts listed but not this one.
JJ
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Believed to come from the name of "Ben Pimlico{who] was apparently a
Tudor innkeeper of Hoxton whose beer enjoyed a great reputation"
(Bebbington, _London Street Names_). "Then it seems that the name was
copied by an establishment...beside the site of Victoria Station,
where 'Pimlicoe' is found by 1626." (Ib.) It became the name for a
rather vague area.
I have no idea of the origin of the surname.
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John Dean
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:38 am
Post subject: Re: Place name meanings |
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Mike Lyle wrote:
| Quote: | Quidnunc wrote:
Google can't help except to offer a book which might. Trying to find
the origin or meaning of the London district of Pimlico - any offers?
Many other districts listed but not this one.
JJ
Believed to come from the name of "Ben Pimlico{who] was apparently a
Tudor innkeeper of Hoxton whose beer enjoyed a great reputation"
(Bebbington, _London Street Names_). "Then it seems that the name was
copied by an establishment...beside the site of Victoria Station,
where 'Pimlicoe' is found by 1626." (Ib.) It became the name for a
rather vague area.
I have no idea of the origin of the surname.
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Brewer's Dic. of Names says much the same and adds that the name is
first recorded in 1630 as "Pimplico". But OED has an earlier cite, viz:
" [1598 Newes from Hogsdon (N.), Hey for old Ben Pimlico's nut-browne.]
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The name is also found in use in 17th Century America as a name of a
bird and as a place name, claimed there by some to be "of Indian origin"
and by others to be echoic from the bird's cry.
There is not believed to be any truth in the idea that "pimlico" is a
word from the Burgundian dialect of French.
As for Google, I find googling on "pimlico origin" yields several
theories.
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John Dean
Oxford
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D.J.Smith
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:00 pm
Post subject: Re: Place name meanings |
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Off target! - but does anyone know why South Eastern trains now call at
'Dettford' when years ago they called at 'Deppford'?
"John Dean" <john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote in message
news:dju98f$4ti$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
| Quote: | Mike Lyle wrote:
Quidnunc wrote:
Google can't help except to offer a book which might. Trying to find
the origin or meaning of the London district of Pimlico - any offers?
Many other districts listed but not this one.
JJ
Believed to come from the name of "Ben Pimlico{who] was apparently a
Tudor innkeeper of Hoxton whose beer enjoyed a great reputation"
(Bebbington, _London Street Names_). "Then it seems that the name was
copied by an establishment...beside the site of Victoria Station,
where 'Pimlicoe' is found by 1626." (Ib.) It became the name for a
rather vague area.
I have no idea of the origin of the surname.
Brewer's Dic. of Names says much the same and adds that the name is
first recorded in 1630 as "Pimplico". But OED has an earlier cite, viz:
" [1598 Newes from Hogsdon (N.), Hey for old Ben Pimlico's nut-browne.]
"
The name is also found in use in 17th Century America as a name of a
bird and as a place name, claimed there by some to be "of Indian origin"
and by others to be echoic from the bird's cry.
There is not believed to be any truth in the idea that "pimlico" is a
word from the Burgundian dialect of French.
As for Google, I find googling on "pimlico origin" yields several
theories.
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John Dean
Oxford
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John Dean
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:50 pm
Post subject: Re: Place name meanings |
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D.J.Smith wrote:
| Quote: | Off target! - but does anyone know why South Eastern trains now call
at 'Dettford' when years ago they called at 'Deppford'?
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No more than we know why people top-post here when so many polite
requests have been made not to.
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John Dean
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ray o'hara
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:15 am
Post subject: Re: Place name meanings |
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"John Dean" <john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote in message
news:djvk3o$o6e$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
| Quote: | D.J.Smith wrote:
Off target! - but does anyone know why South Eastern trains now call
at 'Dettford' when years ago they called at 'Deppford'?
No more than we know why people top-post here when so many polite
requests have been made not to.
--
John Dean
Oxford
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Top posting is becoming an epidemic on the usenet. There was a time when
suggesting that it was wrong was met with compliance now it is met with
obcenity. |
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Robert Lieblich
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:47 am
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ray o'hara wrote:
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"John Dean" <john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote in message
news:djvk3o$o6e$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
D.J.Smith wrote:
Off target! - but does anyone know why South Eastern trains now call
at 'Dettford' when years ago they called at 'Deppford'?
No more than we know why people top-post here when so many polite
requests have been made not to.
--
John Dean
Oxford
Top posting is becoming an epidemic on the usenet.
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Like comma splices and misspellings?
| Quote: | There was a time when
suggesting that it was wrong was met with compliance now it is met with
obcenity.
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Bob Lieblich
Whom also is less than perfcet |
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