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Charles Riggs
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:08 am
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What is the BrE word for "waste paper basket"?
What is the word, in AmE and BrE, for the receptacle used in kitchens
for garbage (BrE "rubbish")? I don't think it is a "garbage can" in
AmE since that is the large can one carts outside for the garbage man
to empty.
In BrE, can "bin" be universally used for the type of waste receptacle
used in an office, that used in the kitchen, and the one put out to be
emptied by the bin man, if that's what he is called?
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Charles Riggs |
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Laura F. Spira
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:08 am
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Charles Riggs wrote:
| Quote: | What is the BrE word for "waste paper basket"?
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Waste paper basket, if it is a basket. Otherwise waste paper bin. Or,
occasionally, circular filing cabinet.
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What is the word, in AmE and BrE, for the receptacle used in kitchens
for garbage (BrE "rubbish")? I don't think it is a "garbage can" in
AmE since that is the large can one carts outside for the garbage man
to empty.
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Kitchen bin. Cans are small metal containers holding food or drink. Or,
occasionally, headphones.
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In BrE, can "bin" be universally used for the type of waste receptacle
used in an office, that used in the kitchen, and the one put out to be
emptied by the bin man, if that's what he is called?
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Yes.
Many years ago we had West Indian neighbours. They had neglected to move
their dustbin (garbage can) to the front of the house on dustbin day and
the bin man knocked at their door. "Where's yer bin?" he shouted. An
upstairs window was thrown open and the response could be heard down the
street: "I'se bin upstairs, where's *you* bin?"
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Laura
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The Other Fran
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:08 am
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Charles Riggs wrote:
| Quote: | What is the BrE word for "waste paper basket"?
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I imagine that's what it would be. That's what we'd use out here in
Australia.
| Quote: | What is the word, in AmE and BrE, for the receptacle used in kitchens
for garbage (BrE "rubbish")? I don't think it is a "garbage can" in
AmE since that is the large can one carts outside for the garbage man
to empty.
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"Dustbin" is the one that goes outside, but I'm not sure if that' what
is used for inside the house.
I have a "kitchen compost" bin, a "recycled paper" bin and a rubbish
bag inside my kitchen.
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In BrE, can "bin" be universally used for the type of waste receptacle
used in an office, that used in the kitchen, and the one put out to be
emptied by the bin man, if that's what he is called?
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The "dustman" as in the old song, by Lonnie Donegan, but that may now
be obsolete.
www.webfitz.com/lyrics/Lyrics/1960/291960.html
TOF
> Charles Riggs |
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Nate Branscom
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:08 am
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Charles Riggs wrote:
| Quote: | What is the BrE word for "waste paper basket"?
What is the word, in AmE and BrE, for the receptacle used in kitchens
for garbage (BrE "rubbish")? I don't think it is a "garbage can" in
AmE since that is the large can one carts outside for the garbage man
to empty.
In BrE, can "bin" be universally used for the type of waste receptacle
used in an office, that used in the kitchen, and the one put out to be
emptied by the bin man, if that's what he is called?
--
Charles Riggs
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I would imagine the choices would be regional, much like 'pop' vs.
'soda'. I, simply, say 'the trash'.
--Nate
An American living in Missouri |
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Maria Conlon
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:17 pm
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Nate Branscom wrote:
| Quote: | Charles Riggs wrote:
What is the BrE word for "waste paper basket"?
What is the word, in AmE and BrE, for the receptacle used in kitchens
for garbage (BrE "rubbish")? I don't think it is a "garbage can" in
AmE since that is the large can one carts outside for the garbage man
to empty.
In BrE, can "bin" be universally used for the type of waste
receptacle used in an office, that used in the kitchen, and the one
put out to be emptied by the bin man, if that's what he is called?
I would imagine the choices would be regional, much like 'pop' vs.
'soda'.
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You're probably right.
We have two containers in the kitchen. The one used for food scraps is
called "the garbage" or "the garbage container"; the one for
miscellaneous paper trash is not called anything in particular. All of
that (plus any shredder confetti) gets bagged, put into a wheeled "waste
disposal bin," and taken out to the edge of the road. A "waste
management truck"[1] comes along and empties the contents of the bin
into its motorized maw.
Items to be recycled (cans [BrE "tins"], newspapers, magazines, plastic
milk jugs, etc.) get put into sorting bins in the garage. Periodically,
we empty the contents into bags or boxes and take the whole business to
a recycling center.
Most grass clippings and leaves are put into special "yard waste" bags
for the "yard waste" trucks (which are "waste management trucks" on
special assignment). I say "most" because we (legally) burn some of it.
| Quote: | I, simply, say 'the trash'.
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If we were to call what we dispose of by one single name, it would
probably be "the garbage."
[1] They used to be "garbage trucks," and then, "sanitation trucks." I
can't imagine what they'll be called next, but I expect something
creative.
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Jim Lawton
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:51 pm
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 04:42:19 +0100, Charles Riggs <chriggs@éircom.net> wrote:
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What is the BrE word for "waste paper basket"?
That's it, but more informally, "the bin". |
| Quote: | What is the word, in AmE and BrE, for the receptacle used in kitchens
for garbage (BrE "rubbish")?
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"The bin"
| Quote: | I don't think it is a "garbage can" in
AmE since that is the large can one carts outside for the garbage man
to empty.
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When this was a round metal bin, it was called a "dustbin", now it is a large
plastic thing with wheels, and is called a "wheely bin".
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In BrE, can "bin" be universally used for the type of waste receptacle
used in an office, that used in the kitchen, and the one put out to be
emptied by the bin man, if that's what he is called?
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He is, and it can. We also have the verb "to bin", used not only for rubbish,
but also as in :- "She binned her boyfriend." - "I'm going to bin this job".
Speaking from Yorkshire
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Jim
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John Dean
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:05 pm
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Charles Riggs wrote:
| Quote: | What is the BrE word for "waste paper basket"?
What is the word, in AmE and BrE, for the receptacle used in kitchens
for garbage (BrE "rubbish")? I don't think it is a "garbage can" in
AmE since that is the large can one carts outside for the garbage man
to empty.
Wagger Pagger Bagger, in the higher reaches of academe. |
| Quote: | In BrE, can "bin" be universally used for the type of waste receptacle
used in an office, that used in the kitchen, and the one put out to be
emptied by the bin man, if that's what he is called?
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Bin men. They don't make one poor bastard do all the work on his jack.
Though there is a "character" in the UK meeja world known as Benjy "The
Bin Man" Pell who raids the bins of the rich and famous and sells the
proceeds to the gutter press. See, eg,
http://www.guardian.co.uk/hamilton/article/0,2763,412203,00.html
In my case, we don't have a bin. We put out rubbish bags which the bin
men can lob straight into their compactor.
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John Dean
Oxford |
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Philip Eden
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:05 pm
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"John Dean" <john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote:
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In my case, we don't have a bin. We put out rubbish bags which the bin
men can lob straight into their compactor.
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Wheelie-bins (or is it 'wheely-bins'?) arrived here in the late-1980s |
accompanied by a letter from the local council purporting to
explain how they would make our lives easier. The only drawback
was that the resident was (and still is) required to wheel the bin to
onto the street - the boundary of the adopted highway, to be
precise - to facilitate the work of the binmen, and then wheel
it back again: no great problem for most, but on this hillside
an up-to-200m wheel for some, like me, and a hike up and down
dozens of steps for others.
After much complaining, the council magnanimously allowed us
to put our rubbish in binbags on the boundary of our own
property. So the binmen (well, one binman at a time) have to
walk the 200m to and fro to pick up mine and to deliver
fresh binbags, usually tied tightly and thrown not very accurately
in the direction of my front porch; evidently they begrudge
walking another six metres to attach them to my front door
as they ought to do.
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Philip Eden
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:14 pm
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"Charles Riggs" <chriggs@éircom.net> wrote in message
news:9043m1hctpea80htkpl8kmpua12vvvac3m@4ax.com...
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What is the BrE word for "waste paper basket"?
For me, waste-paper basket or waste-paper bin. |
In the kitchen is the rubbish bin, or the pedal-bin if
indeed it is so. My Mum also used to have a
sink-tidy.
Outside are the dustbin, or wheelie(wheely?)-bin (if you
have one which I don't), and the compost heap or
compost bin. Dustmen or 'the binmen' empty the
wheelie-bins into the dustcart. The binmen empty the
contents of the dustcart at the dump. Although many of
these terms may have been officially superseded they
are certainly not obsolete round here.
Philip Eden
(Beds, UK) |
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Mike Lyle
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:28 pm
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Philip Eden wrote:
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| Quote: | compost bin. Dustmen or 'the binmen' empty the
wheelie-bins into the dustcart. [...]
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Let's once more hear it for the Oz "garboes" (who for traditional
households empty the "tin"). "Garbage" wasn't the natural Oz word for
the material, but the collocation was irresistible: I don't know why
it hasn't caught on anywhere else.
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Jim Lawton
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:43 pm
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:14:29 +0100, "Philip Eden"
<philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom> wrote:
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"Charles Riggs" <chriggs@éircom.net> wrote in message
news:9043m1hctpea80htkpl8kmpua12vvvac3m@4ax.com...
What is the BrE word for "waste paper basket"?
For me, waste-paper basket or waste-paper bin.
In the kitchen is the rubbish bin, or the pedal-bin if
indeed it is so. My Mum also used to have a
sink-tidy.
Outside are the dustbin, or wheelie(wheely?)-bin (if you
have one which I don't), and the compost heap or
compost bin. Dustmen or 'the binmen' empty the
wheelie-bins into the dustcart.
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I don't think we ever referred to "dustcarts" - "bin lorry" was more the go.
| Quote: | The binmen empty the
contents of the dustcart at the dump. Although many of
these terms may have been officially superseded they
are certainly not obsolete round here.
Philip Eden
(Beds, UK)
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JF
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:52 pm
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In message <43621421$0$23284$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>, Philip Eden
<philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom@?.?.invalid> writes
| Quote: | Wheelie-bins (or is it 'wheely-bins'?) arrived here in the late-1980s
accompanied by a letter from the local council purporting to
explain how they would make our lives easier.
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Our local council (Waverley and District) supplied us with _two_! One at
the front door and one at the trademen's entrance. But because actually
employing people is an economic disaster for any organisation these
days, our rubbish collection are now fortnightly. It doesn't matter
because, in the winter, yogurt pots and unwanted 'Daily Mail' DVDs make
excellent kindling for log fires, and in the summer all plastic waste
makes a satisfactory whoosh in the garden incinerator. Burning bottles
that contained Nivea cream smell disgusting. Heaven knows why my dear
wife eats such stuff.
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Weatherlawyer
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:01 pm
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The Other Fran wrote:
| Quote: | Charles Riggs wrote:
What is the BrE word for "waste paper basket"?
I imagine that's what it would be. That's what we'd use in Australia.
"Dustbin" is the one that goes outside, but I'm not sure if that' what
is used for inside the house.
I have a "kitchen compost" bin, a "recycled paper" bin and a rubbish
bag inside my kitchen.
In BrE, can "bin" be universally used for the type of waste receptacle
used in an office, that used in the kitchen, and the one put out to be
emptied by the bin man, if that's what he is called?
We seldom if ever use the term "garbage" over here. We might have |
garbage disposal units and have occasion to use the term in that case.
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The "dustman" as in the old song, by Lonnie Donegan, but that may now
be obsolete.
No more obsolete than the term chauffeur. He may not stoke the |
automobile-carriage these days but the name's the same.
I wonder if the term dust-man refers to the amount of dust that went
into bins up to a few years ago? Or is it more biblical (and fecal.)
Once upon a time toilets were emptied by a man who came round to
collect the waste. Might the occupations have become blended in more
ways than one? |
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Will
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:50 pm
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Philip Eden wrote:
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| Quote: | After much complaining, the council magnanimously allowed us
to put our rubbish in binbags on the boundary of our own
property. So the binmen (well, one binman at a time) have to
walk the 200m to and fro to pick up mine and to deliver
fresh binbags, usually tied tightly and thrown not very accurately
in the direction of my front porch; evidently they begrudge
walking another six metres to attach them to my front door
as they ought to do.
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You get "given" fresh binbags? How come? Why don't you have to buy
them like the rest of us? And you expect them to be tied to your front
door? What an extraordinary use of Council Tax.
Will. |
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JF
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:42 pm
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In message <1130504500.042386.138870@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Weatherlawyer <Weatherlawyer@hotmail.com> writes
| Quote: | Once upon a time toilets were emptied by a man who came round to
collect the waste. Might the occupations have become blended in more
ways than one?
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Reminds me of an incident on the Thames where marine toilets are banned.
One is stuck with 'Elsan' chemical bogs which have to be emptied at
points on the river which are furnished with decent moorings. Emptying
the 'dunny' when you have to cross selfishly moored gin palaces is a bit
of a problem. One has to navigate mooring sheets, cleats, coamings,
fiddley rails etc while carrying a brimming bucket. A guy had a bit of
an accident on one such craft at Maidenhead. Most of it went all over
the immaculate cockpit. His wonderful response to the occupants, all of
whom got a share, was:
"Oops, sorry, missus. It'll all hose away if your cockpit's
self-draining."
--
James Follett. Novelist. (G1LXP) http://www.jamesfollett.dswilliams.co.uk |
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