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Steve Hayes
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:49 pm
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:52:58 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
<d.phillipson@ttrryytteell.com> wrote:
| Quote: | jmetillon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Hi, I'm not English speaking and wondering what is the exact difference
between an issue and a problem.
Both these (ancient) words were taken up as
poliitically fashionable in the late 20th century.
1. "Problem" was word chosen by American
space scientists as a neutral word for breakdowns
or accidents, that sounded distinct on radio, and
would not alarm members of the general public who
could listen to the space scientists' conversations
via broadcasting. E.g. news of a catastrophic
accident on Apollo XIII was reported as "Houston,
we have a problem." The word then became
generally fashionablel i.e. was widely adopted by politicians,
professors, news reporters etc.
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What I find very annying is computer salesmen who advertise "solutions"
without stating what the problem is.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:52 pm
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batdorf filted:
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brians@wsu.edu> escribió en el mensaje
news:1130509620.477187.269670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
But this reminds me of the story that Neil Armstrong
carefully composed in his mind his "first words on the moon" as
"That's
one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind."
He is also reported to have said, under his breath, "Good luck Mr.
Bernstein."
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For values of "Bernstein" equal to "Gorsky"
(http://www.snopes.com/quotes/mrgorsky.htm)....r |
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batdorf
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:36 am
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"R H Draney" <dadoctah@spamcop.net> escribió en el mensaje
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| Quote: | For values of "Bernstein" equal to "Gorsky"
(http://www.snopes.com/quotes/mrgorsky.htm)....r
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Now you're just being an old spoilsport, r...
HumphreyB
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:38 am
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batdorf filted:
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"R H Draney" <dadoctah@spamcop.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:djtoh6016p0@drn.newsguy.com...
For values of "Bernstein" equal to "Gorsky"
(http://www.snopes.com/quotes/mrgorsky.htm)....r
Now you're just being an old spoilsport, r...
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You know it....
Seriously, this story is so familiar over on alt.folklore.urban that you can
simply post the word "Gorsky" in any context and all the Hats will know what
you're referring to....r |
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batdorf
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 7:07 am
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"R H Draney" <dadoctah@spamcop.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:djtunj01r1s@drn.newsguy.com...
| Quote: | Now you're just being an old spoilsport, r...
You know it....
Seriously, this story is so familiar over on alt.folklore.urban that
you can
simply post the word "Gorsky" in any context and all the Hats will
know what
you're referring to....r
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Sometimes, when we improvise, we hit a "dud"...or repeat a cliche.
My old piano teacher used to begin whistling and pretend to sweep the
notes under the piano!
But Dizzy Gillespie had the perfect answer...
When asked what he would do if he played a "wrong" note, he answered,
"Play it again..but LOUDER!"
So...did you hear the one about...the two musicians who, during the
Blitz, ran into St. Paul's in an attempt to escape the bombs.
A close hit resulted in the mighty bell being dislodged and falling
beside them with an almighty clang.
"What the hell was that?" asked one.
"Eflat", said the other. :)
HumphreyB |
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Michael Nitabach
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:19 am
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jmetillon@gmail.com wrote in
news:1130442350.436743.116460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
| Quote: | Hi, I'm not English speaking and wondering what is the exact
difference between an issue and a problem.
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Scientists frequently use "issue" to refer to an unanswered question in
a field of inquiry.
"While a great deal is known about jamming of the jibnitz, it remains
unknown whether flamming of the fribnitz occurs by a similar mechanism.
In order to address this issue, we have taken an experimental approach
based on globbing the gubnoob."
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Charles Riggs
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:39 pm
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:19:55 -0500, Michael Nitabach
<mnitabach@acedsl.com> wrote:
| Quote: | jmetillon@gmail.com wrote in
news:1130442350.436743.116460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
Hi, I'm not English speaking and wondering what is the exact
difference between an issue and a problem.
Scientists frequently use "issue" to refer to an unanswered question in
a field of inquiry.
"While a great deal is known about jamming of the jibnitz, it remains
unknown whether flamming of the fribnitz occurs by a similar mechanism.
In order to address this issue, we have taken an experimental approach
based on globbing the gubnoob."
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No problem there. My derogatory comment on those who use the word was
constrained to the use of "an issue", as in "I have an issue to
discuss with you". Perhaps you know the type of person I'm referring
to, perhaps not.
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Charles Riggs |
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Scotius
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:10 am
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On 27 Oct 2005 12:45:50 -0700, jmetillon@gmail.com wrote:
| Quote: | Hi, I'm not English speaking and wondering what is the exact difference
between an issue and a problem.
Thank you.
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An issue can be something you must address, or that at least
someone wants to address, such as "defining the target market is an
issue in advertising", but we tend to think of the word "problem" as
having a negative meaning. It doesn't necessarily have to, according
to it's technical definition, but it has come to have a generally
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Joe Fineman
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:07 am
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Scotius <wolvzbro@mnsi.net> writes:
| Quote: | An issue can be something you must address, or that at least
someone wants to address, such as "defining the target market is an
issue in advertising",
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What we used to call a "task".
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--- Joe Fineman joe_f@verizon.net
||: If you don't make mistakes, you're not working on hard  |
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Don Phillipson
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:25 pm
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"Don Phillipson" <d.phillipson@ttrryytteell.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | jmetillon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130442350.436743.116460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Hi, I'm not English speaking and wondering what is the exact difference
between an issue and a problem.
Both these (ancient) words were taken up as
poliitically fashionable in the late 20th century.
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2. "Issue" was chosen by social scientists as a
"non-judgmental" categorization of behavioral
problems (e.g. adultery, truancy, drug addiction.)
. . . The word was then
adopted generally as a euphemism. E.g. if
someone drinks too much he may say "I have
alcohol issues:" this offers a non-judgmental
social label without admitting guilt or accepting
responsibility for getting drunk.
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While not necessarily used as a euphemism, here is
an example of current usage, from a Letter to the
Editor of the Ottawa Citizen published 31 Oct. 2005
concerning water supply in a village where the writer
formerly worked: "the filtration plant was frequently
shut down because of water-quality issues." This
usage provides the core fact (that supply was
intermittent) while not specifying the reasons (which
in this case might be unsafe water, lack of operating
staff, electricity outages preventing the machinery
from working, etc. etc.)
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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada) |
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