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Pete
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:08 am
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Where is the word Manhattan from? Or Brooklyn.
I've done my own research - 10 minutes and to no avail and I'm getting
tired.
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Nate Branscom
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:08 am
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Pete wrote:
| Quote: | Where is the word Manhattan from? Or Brooklyn.
I've done my own research - 10 minutes and to no avail and I'm getting
tired.
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AFAIK ...
Manhattan---Local Indian word for "Hilly Island" (or something
similar).
Brooklyn----Corruption of "Breukelen" (a Dutch village)
Remember: New York *was* New Amsterdam.
--Nate |
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PR
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:09 am
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"Nate Branscom" wrote:
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Pete wrote:
Where is the word Manhattan from? Or Brooklyn.
I've done my own research - 10 minutes and to no avail and I'm getting
tired.
AFAIK ...
Manhattan---Local Indian word for "Hilly Island" (or something
similar).
Brooklyn----Corruption of "Breukelen" (a Dutch village)
Remember: New York *was* New Amsterdam.
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And Istanbul was Constantinople; now Constantinople is Istanbul.
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Nate Branscom
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:09 am
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PR wrote:
| Quote: | I wrote:
AFAIK ...
Manhattan---Local Indian word for "Hilly Island" (or something
similar).
Brooklyn----Corruption of "Breukelen" (a Dutch village)
Remember: New York *was* New Amsterdam.
And Istanbul was Constantinople; now Constantinople is Istanbul.
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Jim Lawton
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:26 pm
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 04:17:30 GMT, Pete <Pete@how.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Where is the word Manhattan from? Or Brooklyn.
I've done my own research - 10 minutes and to no avail and I'm getting
tired.
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Ten *minutes* and you found out *nothing*, how can this be?
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Jim
the polymoth |
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JF
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:06 pm
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In message <h8k0m1harhq6mufi99p76n11m32eh9id7g@4ax.com>, Pete
<Pete@how.com> writes
| Quote: | Where is the word Manhattan from? Or Brooklyn.
I've done my own research - 10 minutes and to no avail and I'm getting
tired.
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Both words hail from New York. |
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J. J. Lodder
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:15 pm
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Nate Branscom <the_n8ball@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | PR wrote:
I wrote:
AFAIK ...
Manhattan---Local Indian word for "Hilly Island" (or something
similar).
Brooklyn----Corruption of "Breukelen" (a Dutch village)
Remember: New York *was* New Amsterdam.
And Istanbul was Constantinople; now Constantinople is Istanbul.
That's nobody's business but the turks!
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You want war with the Greeks?
Jan |
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Nate Branscom
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:27 pm
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J. J. Lodder wrote:
| Quote: | Nate Branscom <the_n8ball@hotmail.com> wrote:
PR wrote:
I wrote:
AFAIK ...
Manhattan---Local Indian word for "Hilly Island" (or something
similar).
Brooklyn----Corruption of "Breukelen" (a Dutch village)
Remember: New York *was* New Amsterdam.
And Istanbul was Constantinople; now Constantinople is Istanbul.
That's nobody's business but the turks!
You want war with the Greeks?
Jan
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I was referring to the They Might Be Giants song: "Istanbul (not
Constantinople)" (though I think it was a cover of a 1950's tune).
Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night
Every gal in Constantinople
lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople
so if you've got a date in Constantinople
she'll be waiting in Istanbul
Even old New York
was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way
So take me back to Constantinople
No, you can't go back to Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That's nobody's business but the Turks
I'm a geek!
--Nate |
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Salvatore Volatile
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:45 pm
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Nate Branscom wrote:
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Pete wrote:
Where is the word Manhattan from? Or Brooklyn.
I've done my own research - 10 minutes and to no avail and I'm getting
tired.
AFAIK ...
Manhattan---Local Indian word for "Hilly Island" (or something
similar).
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I've also seen explanations that it meant "beautiful island". The "hilly
island" is somewhat ironic since much of the hilliness has disappeared,
though there are still noticeable gradations and such (and even meaningful
names of areas like Murray Hill and 'the Manhattan Valley' (isn't that the
name of the dip you see as you head towards Harlem?)).
| Quote: | Brooklyn----Corruption of "Breukelen" (a Dutch village)
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Yes, though, in those pre-Lodder days, it was spelled "Breuckelen".
"Corruption" might not be the most accurate term -- I think the British
deliberately tried to anglicize many of the Dutch place names. For a
while Brooklyn was written as "Brookland". |
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Salvatore Volatile
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:46 pm
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JF wrote:
| Quote: | In message <h8k0m1harhq6mufi99p76n11m32eh9id7g@4ax.com>, Pete
Pete@how.com> writes
Where is the word Manhattan from? Or Brooklyn.
I've done my own research - 10 minutes and to no avail and I'm getting
tired.
Both words hail from New York.
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Not exactly, since Brooklyn (FLCIA)'s history precedes the existence of
New York (LCIA). |
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Steve Hayes
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:30 pm
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 04:17:30 GMT, Pete <Pete@how.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Where is the word Manhattan from? Or Brooklyn.
I've done my own research - 10 minutes and to no avail and I'm getting
tired.
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It was originally from Australian cricket commentators, referring to a bar
chart showing the runs per over.
It has also giben its name to a drink and an island in the Atlantic ocean.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
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Holger Metzger
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:59 pm
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Pete wrote:
| Quote: | Where is the word Manhattan from? Or Brooklyn.
I've done my own research - 10 minutes and to no avail and I'm getting
tired.
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According to http://www.etymonline.com/ it is probably from native name,
manah "island" + atin "hill.
--
Holger |
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R J Valentine
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:07 pm
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Salvatore Volatile <me@privacy.net> wrote:
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} Yes, though, in those pre-Lodder days, it was spelled "Breuckelen".
} "Corruption" might not be the most accurate term -- I think the British
} deliberately tried to anglicize many of the Dutch place names. For a
} while Brooklyn was written as "Brookland".
Still is in Washington in the southern end of the Laurelplex (Fourth
Largest Metropolitan Area in America). Baltimore's Brooklyn is "Brooklyn"
in the northern end of the Laurelplex. At the heart of the Laurelplex is
Laurel, near which I spent most of my life. The Laurelplex has two of
lots of things, from National Aquariums to Beltways, including [Francis
Scott] Key Bridges, Metros, and Washington Monuments.
--
R. J. Valentine <mailto:rj@theWorld.com>
Somewhere in the North East area. |
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Ho ho ho
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:28 pm
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"PR" <noreply@none.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Nate Branscom" wrote:
Pete wrote:
Where is the word Manhattan from? Or Brooklyn.
I've done my own research - 10 minutes and to no avail and I'm getting
tired.
AFAIK ...
Manhattan---Local Indian word for "Hilly Island" (or something
similar).
Brooklyn----Corruption of "Breukelen" (a Dutch village)
Remember: New York *was* New Amsterdam.
And Istanbul was Constantinople; now Constantinople is Istanbul.
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Why did Constantinople get the works? |
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ArWeGod
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:03 pm
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"Nate Branscom" <the_n8ball@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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J. J. Lodder wrote:
Nate Branscom <the_n8ball@hotmail.com> wrote:
PR wrote:
I wrote:
AFAIK ...
Manhattan---Local Indian word for "Hilly Island" (or something
similar).
Brooklyn----Corruption of "Breukelen" (a Dutch village)
Remember: New York *was* New Amsterdam.
And Istanbul was Constantinople; now Constantinople is Istanbul.
That's nobody's business but the turks!
You want war with the Greeks?
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You don't get it.
| Quote: | I was referring to the They Might Be Giants song: "Istanbul (not
Constantinople)" (though I think it was a cover of a 1950's tune).
I'm a geek!
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Making the reference made you cool. Explaining the joke shoved a Geek
Stick up your ass, forever branding you, internally, as a geek. But if
you never let anyone see it again, perhaps you can overcome the shame
and humiliation you have just case upon the Internet for all time, in
all lands, on Earth.
p.s. Been there (the city, not shameville...well, OK both) The taxis are
1950's Mercedes, the bread is excellent, and you can get a leather coat
for reasonable price. It's also the only place you can see a block of
raw Meerschaum, as it can't be exported but must be carved in Turkey.
Oh, and you can't walk from Greece to Turkey. No trains. Hitchhiking
doesn't work, because they don't cross the border. When you sneak across
the border, there are packs of dogs waiting... But the people are
friendly if you get to a city.
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ArWeEuropeOrAsia |
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