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Charles Riggs
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| Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:07 am
Post subject: Re: "chat to" not same as "meet with"? [was: Re: Synonymity |
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On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 12:30:48 +0100, trio@euronet.nl (Donna Richoux)
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| Quote: | Weary, I tell you -- Donna Richoux
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I sense more anger, here, than weariness. Life's too short, as I see
it, to become angered over claims German immigrants may have
influenced AmE grammar. So what if they did? (Or didn't; ours remains
a Germanic language in any case.) English has been influenced by many
languages: one reason it is as comprehensive as it is, has the
extensive vocabulary it has, has the many word nuances it has, and,
perhaps, has the flexible grammar it has.
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Charles Riggs |
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Salvatore Volatile
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| Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:52 pm
Post subject: Re: "chat to" not same as "meet with"? [was: Re: Synonymity |
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Charles Riggs wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 12:30:48 +0100, trio@euronet.nl (Donna Richoux)
wrote:
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Weary, I tell you -- Donna Richoux
I sense more anger, here, than weariness. Life's too short, as I see
it, to become angered over claims German immigrants may have
influenced AmE grammar. So what if they did? (Or didn't; ours remains
a Germanic language in any case.)
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I share Donna's weariness in this case. Time and time again our
Brito-Australic posters speculate about how this or that feature of AmE
(where it differs from BrE+) must be due to German immigrant influence,
or, in some case, German *and* Yiddish influence. These speculations are
never supported by any rigorous analysis or solid evidence. No effort is
made to explain why, for example, a "German" usage appears in regions of
the US that saw little to no German immigration, or why regions that *did*
receive more German immigration do not, apparently, exhibit more of these
alleged Germanisms. Moreover, there is generally no effort to determine
the age of the alleged Germanisms. Often they seem to be usages that have
only in recent decades become popular, whereas the high point of German
immigration was a century and a half or so ago. |
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the Omrud
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| Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:40 pm
Post subject: Re: "chat to" not same as "meet with"? [was: Re: Synonymity |
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Salvatore Volatile <me@privacy.net> spake thusly:
| Quote: | Charles Riggs wrote:
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 12:30:48 +0100, trio@euronet.nl (Donna Richoux)
wrote:
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Weary, I tell you -- Donna Richoux
I sense more anger, here, than weariness. Life's too short, as I see
it, to become angered over claims German immigrants may have
influenced AmE grammar. So what if they did? (Or didn't; ours remains
a Germanic language in any case.)
I share Donna's weariness in this case. Time and time again our
Brito-Australic posters speculate about how this or that feature of AmE
(where it differs from BrE+) must be due to German immigrant influence,
or, in some case, German *and* Yiddish influence.
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*Some* might, accept I. But then, not Yiddish but Yoda's influence
it might be.
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David
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Charles Riggs
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:14 pm
Post subject: Re: "chat to" not same as "meet with"? [was: Re: Synonymity |
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On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 15:40:25 GMT, the Omrud <usenet.omrud@gmail.com>
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| Quote: | *Some* might, accept I.
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Deserving of a double Oy! if the "I" wasn't meant to be a joke.
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Charles Riggs |
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