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Hanna Burdon
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:01 pm    Post subject: I am not a camel Reply with quote

Hello,

There is a saying in Polish that goes, literally, "to prove that one is
not a camel" (as in: "Why do I have to prove that I am not a camel?") It
means "to prove the obvious" (as in: a visibly disabled person is asking
why they need to prove that they are disabled). Is there a similar saying
in English, something more idiomatic than "to prove the obvious"?

(This question was asked on the Polish translators' newsgroup,
pl.hum.tlumaczenia; googlink: http://tinyurl.com/8ezpx)

Hanna

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ray o'hara
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:41 pm    Post subject: Re: I am not a camel Reply with quote

"Hanna Burdon" <babelfishWYTNIJ@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
news:djg4t5$ren$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
Quote:
Hello,

There is a saying in Polish that goes, literally, "to prove that one is
not a camel" (as in: "Why do I have to prove that I am not a camel?") It
means "to prove the obvious" (as in: a visibly disabled person is asking
why they need to prove that they are disabled). Is there a similar saying
in English, something more idiomatic than "to prove the obvious"?

(This question was asked on the Polish translators' newsgroup,
pl.hum.tlumaczenia; googlink: http://tinyurl.com/8ezpx)

Does a bear shit in the woods?
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Jim Lawton
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:59 pm    Post subject: Re: I am not a camel Reply with quote

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:01:35 +0100, "Hanna Burdon"
<babelfishWYTNIJ@poczta.onet.pl> wrote:

Quote:
Hello,

There is a saying in Polish that goes, literally, "to prove that one is
not a camel" (as in: "Why do I have to prove that I am not a camel?") It
means "to prove the obvious" (as in: a visibly disabled person is asking
why they need to prove that they are disabled). Is there a similar saying
in English, something more idiomatic than "to prove the obvious"?


"It goes without saying" [that I'm not a camel]
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Jim
the polymoth

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batdorf
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:09 pm    Post subject: Re: I am not a camel Reply with quote

"ray o'hara" <roh@comcast.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:HaOdnX0nj8qDPMbenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
Quote:

"Hanna Burdon" <babelfishWYTNIJ@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
news:djg4t5$ren$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
Hello,

There is a saying in Polish that goes, literally, "to prove that one
is
not a camel" (as in: "Why do I have to prove that I am not a camel?")
It
means "to prove the obvious" (as in: a visibly disabled person is
asking
why they need to prove that they are disabled). Is there a similar
saying
in English, something more idiomatic than "to prove the obvious"?

(This question was asked on the Polish translators' newsgroup,
pl.hum.tlumaczenia; googlink: http://tinyurl.com/8ezpx)

Does a bear shit in the woods?

Is the Pope a catholic?
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Django Cat
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:17 pm    Post subject: Re: I am not a camel Reply with quote

batdorf wrote:

Quote:

"ray o'hara" <roh@comcast.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:HaOdnX0nj8qDPMbenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com...

"Hanna Burdon" <babelfishWYTNIJ@poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
news:djg4t5$ren$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
Hello,

There is a saying in Polish that goes, literally, "to prove that
one is not a camel" (as in: "Why do I have to prove that I am
not a camel?") It means "to prove the obvious" (as in: a visibly
disabled person is asking why they need to prove that they are
disabled). Is there a similar saying in English, something more
idiomatic than "to prove the obvious"?

(This question was asked on the Polish translators' newsgroup,
pl.hum.tlumaczenia; googlink: http://tinyurl.com/8ezpx)

Does a bear shit in the woods?

Is the Pope a catholic?

"Is a bear a catholic? Does the Pope shit in the woods?"

Fat Freddy's Cat, circa a very long time ago.

DC
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Raymond S. Wise
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:02 am    Post subject: Re: I am not a camel Reply with quote

Hanna Burdon wrote:
Quote:
Hello,

There is a saying in Polish that goes, literally, "to prove that one is
not a camel" (as in: "Why do I have to prove that I am not a camel?") It
means "to prove the obvious" (as in: a visibly disabled person is asking
why they need to prove that they are disabled). Is there a similar saying
in English, something more idiomatic than "to prove the obvious"?

(This question was asked on the Polish translators' newsgroup,
pl.hum.tlumaczenia; googlink: http://tinyurl.com/8ezpx)


"Is the Pope Catholic?" and "Does a bear shit in the woods?" as others
have mentioned (either directly or by giving joking variants of same).
A variant once used for "Is the Pope Catholic?" is "Is the Pope
Italian?" Under changing circumstances, this led, naturally enough, to
the variant "Is the Pope Polish?"

These cannot be used in all informal speech situations, as I expect the
Polish phrase can, since they might cause offense. "Isn't it obvious?"
and "It goes without saying." don't have the humorous aspect that the
others all have.


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Raymond S. Wise
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA

E-mail: mplsray @ yahoo . com
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mUs1Ka
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:11 am    Post subject: Re: I am not a camel Reply with quote

Hanna Burdon wrote:
Quote:
Hello,

There is a saying in Polish that goes, literally, "to prove that one
is not a camel" (as in: "Why do I have to prove that I am not a
camel?") It means "to prove the obvious" (as in: a visibly disabled
person is asking why they need to prove that they are disabled). Is
there a similar saying in English, something more idiomatic than "to
prove the obvious"?
(This question was asked on the Polish translators' newsgroup,
pl.hum.tlumaczenia; googlink: http://tinyurl.com/8ezpx)

Does a one-legged duck swim in circles?

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Ray.
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batdorf
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:35 am    Post subject: Re: I am not a camel Reply with quote

"Django Cat" <nospam@please> escribió en el mensaje
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Quote:
Does a bear shit in the woods?

Is the Pope a catholic?

"Is a bear a catholic?

There have probably been one or two if one takes the secondary meaning
of "bear", "a clumsy, churlish or ill-mannered person"

Quote:
Does the Pope shit in the woods?"

It depends which one you mean, but I imagine that there have been
occasions...

HumphreyB
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Harvey Van Sickle
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:02 am    Post subject: Re: I am not a camel Reply with quote

On 23 Oct 2005, mUs1Ka wrote

Quote:
Hanna Burdon wrote:
Hello,

There is a saying in Polish that goes, literally, "to prove that one
is not a camel" (as in: "Why do I have to prove that I am not a
camel?") It means "to prove the obvious" (as in: a visibly disabled
person is asking why they need to prove that they are disabled). Is
there a similar saying in English, something more idiomatic than "to
prove the obvious"?
(This question was asked on the Polish translators' newsgroup,
pl.hum.tlumaczenia; googlink: http://tinyurl.com/8ezpx)

Does a one-legged duck swim in circles?

Does a duck walk web-footed on the beach?

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Cheers, Harvey
Canadian (30 years) and British (23 years)
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batdorf
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:46 am    Post subject: Re: I am not a camel Reply with quote

"Harvey Van Sickle" <harvey.news@ntlworld.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:Xns96F8CC17D3BE2whhvans@62.253.170.163...

Quote:
Does a duck walk web-footed on the beach?

Cheers, Harvey
Canadian (30 years) and British (23 years)

Would that be a Canadian duck or a British one?

HumphreyB
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Harvey Van Sickle
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:08 am    Post subject: Re: I am not a camel Reply with quote

On 23 Oct 2005, batdorf wrote

Quote:

"Harvey Van Sickle" <harvey.news@ntlworld.com> escribió en el
mensaje news:Xns96F8CC17D3BE2whhvans@62.253.170.163...

Does a duck walk web-footed on the beach?

Cheers, Harvey
Canadian (30 years) and British (23 years)

Would that be a Canadian duck or a British one?

The one I met was a Canuck duck. Depends on the beach, I s'pose.

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Cheers, Harvey
Canadian (30 years) and British (23 years)
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Prai Jei
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:22 am    Post subject: Re: I am not a camel Reply with quote

Harvey Van Sickle (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in
message <Xns96F8D6EACE034whhvans@80.5.182.99>:

Quote:
On 23 Oct 2005, batdorf wrote


"Harvey Van Sickle" <harvey.news@ntlworld.com> escribió en el
mensaje news:Xns96F8CC17D3BE2whhvans@62.253.170.163...

Does a duck walk web-footed on the beach?

Cheers, Harvey
Canadian (30 years) and British (23 years)

Would that be a Canadian duck or a British one?

The one I met was a Canuck duck. Depends on the beach, I s'pose.

Could depend on the duck too. Try to visualise a Bombay duck in the
situation described.
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Harvey Van Sickle
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:34 am    Post subject: Re: I am not a camel Reply with quote

On 23 Oct 2005, Prai Jei wrote

Quote:
Harvey Van Sickle (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in
message <Xns96F8D6EACE034whhvans@80.5.182.99>:

On 23 Oct 2005, batdorf wrote


"Harvey Van Sickle" <harvey.news@ntlworld.com> escribió en el
mensaje news:Xns96F8CC17D3BE2whhvans@62.253.170.163...

Does a duck walk web-footed on the beach?

Cheers, Harvey
Canadian (30 years) and British (23 years)

Would that be a Canadian duck or a British one?

The one I met was a Canuck duck. Depends on the beach, I s'pose.

Could depend on the duck too. Try to visualise a Bombay duck in the
situation described.

Nah: even if that was actually a duck, Chuck, it couldn't be a duck
until it was a dead duck.

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Cheers, Harvey
Canadian (30 years) and British (23 years)
For e-mail, change harvey.news to harvey.van
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batdorf
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:15 am    Post subject: Re: I am not a camel Reply with quote

"Harvey Van Sickle" <harvey.news@ntlworld.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:Xns96F8D6EACE034whhvans@80.5.182.99...

Quote:
The one I met was a Canuck duck. Depends on the beach, I s'pose.

You don't mean Cannock?...they don't have a beach, but lots of people
call each other "duck"...

HumphreyB
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Mike Lyle
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:41 am    Post subject: Re: I am not a camel Reply with quote

Harvey Van Sickle wrote:
Quote:
On 23 Oct 2005, Prai Jei wrote

Harvey Van Sickle (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly
in
message <Xns96F8D6EACE034whhvans@80.5.182.99>:

On 23 Oct 2005, batdorf wrote


"Harvey Van Sickle" <harvey.news@ntlworld.com> escribió en el
mensaje news:Xns96F8CC17D3BE2whhvans@62.253.170.163...

Does a duck walk web-footed on the beach?

Cheers, Harvey
Canadian (30 years) and British (23 years)

Would that be a Canadian duck or a British one?

The one I met was a Canuck duck. Depends on the beach, I s'pose.

Could depend on the duck too. Try to visualise a Bombay duck in
the
situation described.

Nah: even if that was actually a duck, Chuck, it couldn't be a duck
until it was a dead duck.

You realise that in (some at least) Britrish Indian restaurants they
aren't allowed to serve you Bombay ducks any more? Bet your ace
they'd still be around if they were a French delicacy.

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