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Linz
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Toast Soldiers - non-standard usage? Reply with quote

Sara Lorimer wrote:
Quote:
Laura F. Spira <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:

Mike Lyle wrote:

Skitt wrote:

I didn't, but I think my mom licked it on the occasions when the
stains were stubborn.


I remember a West-Indian woman saying it was one of the most
shocking sights to meet her eyes on arrival in Blighty: she found
the idea of "spitting on somebody" maximally gross. I've never
since been able to see the little ceremony with equanimity. The
variant John mentions is rather less disturbing.


I haven't seen anyone do it for many years. For a start, very few
mothers have hankies these days.

Three weeks ago I found myself doing exactly that to my grubby child.
I shocked myself: how did this happen? This is not my life!

Hah. I knew I was a mum the day that I not only sorted out my own child, I
sorted out someone else's (she had her hands full at the time).

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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Toast Soldiers - non-standard usage? Reply with quote

Mike Page wrote:
Quote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:36:16 +0100, "Linz" <spam@lindsayendell.org.uk
wrote:

Laura F. Spira wrote:

It was potatoes behind the ears in my childhood. I shall ask my
mother what she can she remember.

OldBloke checks behind YoungBloke's ears for potatoes, because that
is what his mother used to do to him.

Did you finish all the chocolate? And did you need a wipe to remove
the traces?

I finished the top layer - handmade dark chocolates are terribly nice but
also very rich, so I couldn't eat too many at a time.
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Wood Avens
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Toast Soldiers - non-standard usage? Reply with quote

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:24:44 +0100, "Laura F. Spira"
<laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
There must have been some interesting planetary "stuff" (Obaue: what's
the word I'm looking for? Begins with "c" I think but it's not
combination or concatenation...) going on at that time that brought us
all here at that moment.

Conjunction, I expect. (Too obaueish, probably.)

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Katy Jennison

spamtrap: remove the first two letters after the @

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ArWeGod
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Electric kettles (was: Toast Soldiers - non-standard usa Reply with quote

"Mark Brader" <msb@vex.net> wrote in message
news:11lrqhnn3uls8fe@corp.supernews.com...
Quote:
When the water boils? Why would I want it to turn off while it's
still keeping the water boiling ready for use?
One must only bring the water to boil for proper tea.
How did tea get into this?
I hope via a visit to your local tea purveyor who gave you loose leaf

blends which you keep in air-tight containers.

Or do you just expect babies at any moment...

Why do you have all this boiling water...?

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It is a shame to have a Leftpondian have to explain this to a POME.
Huh?

Well, if you were actually an English person, as I thought (and why
aren't you!) then you might know you were a POME! But since you "seem:"
to be Canuckian I suppose it's only right that you have no idea what
boiled water is FOR - which is tea, in case that was too subtle. You're
not French Canadien, because they keep sliding back into the good
provence (Kbec), so what the hell are you boiling all the water for?!!

--
ArWeSteamed
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Laura F. Spira
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Toast Soldiers - non-standard usage? Reply with quote

Wood Avens wrote:
Quote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:24:44 +0100, "Laura F. Spira"
laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:


There must have been some interesting planetary "stuff" (Obaue: what's
the word I'm looking for? Begins with "c" I think but it's not
combination or concatenation...) going on at that time that brought us
all here at that moment.


Conjunction, I expect. (Too obaueish, probably.)


Thassit! I knew it was something to do with red eyes as well...

--
Laura
(emulate St. George for email)
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Ted Schuerzinger
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Toast Soldiers - non-standard usage? Reply with quote

Somebody claiming to be Wood Avens <woodavens@askjennison.com> wrote in
news:vga1m1534qb2tnbiprt1ncie3v6m6m7kgs@4ax.com:

Quote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:24:44 +0100, "Laura F. Spira"
laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:

There must have been some interesting planetary "stuff" (Obaue: what's
the word I'm looking for? Begins with "c" I think but it's not
combination or concatenation...) going on at that time that brought us
all here at that moment.

Conjunction, I expect. (Too obaueish, probably.)

Conjunction junction, what's your function?

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Ted <fedya at bestweb dot net>
Oh Marge, anyone can miss Canada, all tucked away down there....
--Homer Simpson
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Mike Lyle
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Toast Soldiers - non-standard usage? Reply with quote

Linz wrote:
Quote:
Sara Lorimer wrote:
[...]
Three weeks ago I found myself doing exactly that to my grubby
child.
I shocked myself: how did this happen? This is not my life!

Hah. I knew I was a mum the day that I not only sorted out my own
child, I sorted out someone else's (she had her hands full at the
time).

I knew I was a case-hardened father the day I found myself changing
somebody else's baby. I won't brag about it, though: I was pretty
well trapped. I wonder why it's so difficult.

--
Mike.
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JF
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Toast Soldiers - non-standard usage? Reply with quote

In message <3sc5suFnbkiqU3@individual.net>, Mike Lyle
<mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> writes
Quote:
Linz wrote:
Sara Lorimer wrote:
[...]
Three weeks ago I found myself doing exactly that to my grubby
child.
I shocked myself: how did this happen? This is not my life!

Hah. I knew I was a mum the day that I not only sorted out my own
child, I sorted out someone else's (she had her hands full at the
time).

I knew I was a case-hardened father the day I found myself changing
somebody else's baby. I won't brag about it, though: I was pretty
well trapped. I wonder why it's so difficult.

I've heard of changing nappies, or even changing diapers, but I've never
heard of anyone changing babies. Damn good job a cad and a bounder such
as yourself was trapped.

--
James Follett
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Mike Lyle
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Toast Soldiers - non-standard usage? Reply with quote

JF wrote:
Quote:
In message <3sc5suFnbkiqU3@individual.net>, Mike Lyle
mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> writes
[...]
I knew I was a case-hardened father the day I found myself
changing
somebody else's baby. I won't brag about it, though: I was pretty
well trapped. I wonder why it's so difficult.

I've heard of changing nappies, or even changing diapers, but I've
never heard of anyone changing babies. Damn good job a cad and a
bounder such as yourself was trapped.

I don't know: I was fortunately able to produce photographic
evidence, so the Judge agreed with me that the change had been an
improvement. Have you _seen_ some of those other people's babies?

--
Mike.
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Matti Lamprhey
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Toast Soldiers - non-standard usage? Reply with quote

"JF" <jf@NOSPAMmarage.demon.co.uk> wrote...
Quote:

I've heard of changing nappies, or even changing diapers, but I've
never heard of anyone changing babies. [...]

You've not heard of a changeling, then?

Matti
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Paul Wolff
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:32 am    Post subject: Re: Toast Soldiers - non-standard usage? Reply with quote

In message <3saa3eFnd59vU3@individual.net>, Mike Lyle
<mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> writes
Quote:
M. J. Powell wrote:
In message <3s7q7tFmkuuvU3@individual.net>, Mike Lyle
[...]
Was it Malan among the Dam-busters who wore a DFC till an
eagle-eyed admiral on a railway station spotted it and forced a
change?

'Sailor Malan'? He was a fighter pilot.

Sorry: I knew he was a Brylcreemer of some description. Who _was_
I
thinking of?

Dunno. Why would an Admiral object to an airman wearing the DFC?

I think it was strictly speaking only for the RAF: sailors got the
DSO. Or such is my memory: I imagine I got the story from Paul
Brickhill's _The Dam-Busters_.

Or possibly from Guy Gibson's Enemy Coast Ahead (or from Leonard

Cheshire's book of the less memorable title). Gibson had a
beer-drinking Dog That Durst Not Speak Its Name, probably not
Brylcreemed though, which was killed the day before the dam busters
raid. Motto of 617 Squadron: Après moi, le deluge.
--
Paul
In bocca al Lupo!
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:52 am    Post subject: Re: Toast Soldiers - non-standard usage? Reply with quote

In message <3sadulFmgg88U3@individual.net>, Mike Lyle
<mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> writes
Quote:
M. J. Powell wrote:
In message <3saa3eFnd59vU3@individual.net>, Mike Lyle
mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> writes
M. J. Powell wrote:
[...]
Dunno. Why would an Admiral object to an airman wearing the DFC?

I think it was strictly speaking only for the RAF: sailors got the
DSO. Or such is my memory: I imagine I got the story from Paul
Brickhill's _The Dam-Busters_.

It is only for the RAF. I don't know the naval equivalent, but the
DSO
is one up on the DFC.
I did have a useful URL for medals and awards but I lost it when my
computer crashed.

Probably DSC, then.

Yes, I think you're right.

Mike
--
M.J.Powell
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:14 am    Post subject: Re: Toast Soldiers - non-standard usage? Reply with quote

Laura F. Spira wrote:
Quote:
Skitt wrote:
Laura F. Spira wrote:

[...] My first post here was on 2 Nov 1997. I can
barely remember what life was like back then...

You beat me by only four days? I thought you have been here longer
than that.

It seems longer. I had heard much about aue before I ventured in. My
erudite and charming friend Professor Page arrived here first and
became deeply embroiled in brass monkey debates. He kept telling me
that I would enjoy the cut and thrust, and the puns, but I resisted
the temptation to investigate for quite a while.

whisper> And I've never read the FAQ...

Me neither. Well, I've read some of it.

I don't remember exactly how I found AUE, but it definitely was from work.
Prior to that I had access to the Internet from a DEC VAX VMS that could
handle only e-mail, so in 1995 (maybe even 1994) I participated in a BITNET
mailing list (several students from Peter Moylan's university were
participating there also). Later I was also given a system that could run
one of the early versions of Netscape, and I discovered newsgroups. I
briefly explored alt.devilbunnies, but then found AUE and settled in. At
home, after unfortunate experiences with free access providers and the
restricted access by AOL (as far from being free as it can get), I made
arrangements for unstructured Internet dial-up access. When DSL became
available, I got that, and when cable became available in my area, I
switched to that.

--
Skitt
CAUTION: My veracity is under a limited warranty
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:53 am    Post subject: Re: Toast Soldiers - non-standard usage? Reply with quote

Robin Bignall wrote:
Quote:
On 22 Oct 2005 03:23:54 -0700, "TsuiDF" <stephanie.mitchell@chello.be
wrote:


Harvey Van Sickle wrote:

Or it could be that the three of you are deeply weird together,
couldn't it?


No, I don't think that's at all possible really. Shirley there's some
rule of statistical relevance about the number three that's related to
the rules of adjective declensions -- you know, 'I'm healthy, you're
big-boned, he's fat'.... In this case it operates in the other
direction: 'He's really, really weird, you're slightly eccentric, we're
normal'.

In an article in yesterday's "Times", Ben Macintyre, in reviewing a
film of the "unfilmable" Tristram Shandy starring Steve Coogan,
discusses eccentricity.
( http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1068-1835547,00.html for
those who can view it.)

quote
....


Quote:
By contrast there are few genuine eccentrics in American literature,
and none that I can think of in European fiction.

Incorrectamundo, Mr. Macintyre. Huck Finn, to start with. Dupin. The
Texan teenage boys in _The Last Picture Show_ who mock someone as a
virgin because he's never penetrated a heifer. Boo Radley and Dill in
_To Kill a Mockingbird_. Spike and various other characters in Robert
Parker's detective stories. Lots of people in Avram Davidson (whose
centric characters are often despicable--Davidson himself was in the
eccentricity major leagues), John Collier, and Shirley Jackson.
Miniver Cheevy. Science fiction isn't as rich in eccentrics as other
genres, but I might mention Nicholas van Rijn. Philip K. Dick's
creation _Horselover Fat_. Wendell Urth. "Prof" in _The Moon is a
Harsh Mistress_. Most of Steven Brust's Dragaeran characters.

Nero Wolfe, for God's sake.

I haven't read as much European (sic) fiction, but there's the
Underground Man. The Anglophile uncle (Pavel Petrovich?) in _Fathers
and Sons_ and the femme fatale in _The Torrents of Spring_. (She was
based on a real person, the French singer Pauline Viardot, IMS. Has
Britain produced an eccentric femme fatale?) Maybe Werther, though I
haven't read that. Minor characters in _The Plague_, like the guy who
spent all his life revising the first sentence of his novel.

Is Nabokov American literature or European fiction?

Quote:
There are
exhibitionists aplenty, but to be truly eccentric one must be
unconscious of being different.
....


An interesting distinction, which Tony Cooper also make, but I hadn't
thought about.

Quote:
Comments?

Yep.

--
Jerry Friedman
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:54 am    Post subject: Re: Toast Soldiers - non-standard usage? Reply with quote

jerry_friedman@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote:
Robin Bignall wrote:
On 22 Oct 2005 03:23:54 -0700, "TsuiDF" <stephanie.mitchell@chello.be
wrote:


Harvey Van Sickle wrote:

Or it could be that the three of you are deeply weird together,
couldn't it?


No, I don't think that's at all possible really. Shirley there's some
rule of statistical relevance about the number three that's related to
the rules of adjective declensions -- you know, 'I'm healthy, you're
big-boned, he's fat'.... In this case it operates in the other
direction: 'He's really, really weird, you're slightly eccentric, we're
normal'.

In an article in yesterday's "Times", Ben Macintyre, in reviewing a
film of the "unfilmable" Tristram Shandy starring Steve Coogan,
discusses eccentricity.
( http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1068-1835547,00.html for
those who can view it.)

quote
...

By contrast there are few genuine eccentrics in American literature,
and none that I can think of in European fiction.
....


I must admit that I couldn't think of any ingenious Spanish gentlemen
either.

--
Jerry Friedman
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