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Bob Cunningham
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Is the thumb a finger ? Reply with quote

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:02:48 +0100, "Mike Lyle"
<mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> said:

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Anglo doctors say "Never put anything smaller than your elbow in your
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That's pretty close to what an American doctor once told me:

You should never atick anything in your right ear but
your left elbow.
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joetaxpayer
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: Is the thumb a finger ? Reply with quote

Raymond S. Wise wrote:
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M. J. Powell wrote:

In message <1129483250.809904.153350@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
pjdd@rediffmail.com writes

I'm a non-native user of English and I've
just been asked by some friends to settle
an argument. It seems one group says that
the thumb is a finger and the other group
insists that it isn't. It got to the point
where they're making bets and they called
me on the phone to settle it.

In the UK the NHS counts the thumb as a finger. If you go into A & E
with an injury to a little finger it will be recorded as an injury to
Finger No.5

Mike
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M.J.Powell



When Americans count with their fingers they start with the index
representing 1, middle finger as 2, ring finger as 3, little finger as
4, and finally the thumb as 5.

When the French count with their fingers, they use the thumb for 1,
index for 2, and so forth.

What system do the British ordinarily use? It's clear from your post
that the NHS counts the little finger as 5, but is that true of the
British public?


--
Raymond S. Wise
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA

E-mail: mplsray @ yahoo . com


I believe Italians count as do the French. I've observed Asians to
count, pinkie 1, ring - 2, middle 3, index 4, lastly thumb five.
JOE
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Is the thumb a finger ? Reply with quote

I' from Taiwan and we always count from the thumb first. It's just like
the way the French do.

Tim
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Is the thumb a finger ? Reply with quote

<timluo@ms1.hinet.net> wrote in message
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I' from Taiwan and we always count from the thumb first. It's just like
the way the French do.

I've forgotten whether it was this group that some time ago discussed the
two ways of notating piano fingering. I was brought up (1940 onwards) on
printed music that showed the thumb as + and the index finger as 1 (so 4 for
the little finger), but nowadays most (all?) publishers use 1 for the thumb
(so 5 for the little finger).

Alan Jones
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Matti Lamprhey
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:25 am    Post subject: Re: Is the thumb a finger ? Reply with quote

"Alan Jones" <atj@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote...
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I've forgotten whether it was this group that some time ago discussed
the two ways of notating piano fingering. I was brought up (1940
onwards) on printed music that showed the thumb as + and the index
finger as 1 (so 4 for the little finger), but nowadays most (all?)
publishers use 1 for the thumb (so 5 for the little finger).

I had piano lessons in the 60s, using books with a mixture of those
notations.

Matti
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David Picton
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Is the thumb a finger ? Reply with quote

Matti Lamprhey wrote:
Quote:
"Alan Jones" <atj@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote...

I've forgotten whether it was this group that some time ago discussed
the two ways of notating piano fingering. I was brought up (1940
onwards) on printed music that showed the thumb as + and the index
finger as 1 (so 4 for the little finger), but nowadays most (all?)
publishers use 1 for the thumb (so 5 for the little finger).

I had piano lessons in the 60s, using books with a mixture of those
notations.

Are you in LeftPondia or RightPondia?

I had piano lessons in the 1960s and the only notation system which I
saw was thumb=1, index finger=2 etc. I'm RightPondian.

Quote:

Matti
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Matti Lamprhey
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Is the thumb a finger ? Reply with quote

"David Picton" <djpicton@gmail.com> wrote...
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Matti Lamprhey wrote:
"Alan Jones" <atj@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote...

I've forgotten whether it was this group that some time ago
discussed the two ways of notating piano fingering. I was brought
up (1940 onwards) on printed music that showed the thumb as +
and the index finger as 1 (so 4 for the little finger), but
nowadays most (all?) publishers use 1 for the thumb (so 5 for the
little finger).

I had piano lessons in the 60s, using books with a mixture of those
notations.

Are you in LeftPondia or RightPondia?

Rightpondia.

Quote:
I had piano lessons in the 1960s and the only notation system which I
saw was thumb=1, index finger=2 etc. I'm RightPondian.

Have you ever seen old photos of Edwardian Ladies wearing hats a bit
like Mr D. Vader's headgear of preference, dresses which cover the
ankles, and beads hanging down their artificially-flattened chests to
dangle at the knee? That was how my piano teacher Mrs Dinnage dressed
in 1968. I think the books she used were just as old.

Matti
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