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Nomen Nescio
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| Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:30 pm
Post subject: Re: Bogus Bicycle "Wheel-Locks" Sold To Incoming Stanford St |
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Ben Pfaff wrote:
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The Campus Bike Shop is the only bike shop actually on campus at
Stanford. It is mainly staffed by students, I believe. It is
undoubtedly leasing its space from the university. That's
something of an endorsement in itself. The next nearest bike
shops are a couple of miles away (although one can easily get to
them via the university's free bus service). I'm not surprised,
therefore, that the Campus Bike Shop would have a special status.
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No, it is not staffed by students, nor for that matter by former Stanford
students. There are some hired but only occasionally. It has been on campus
for ages under different owners. The business itself has been owned
privately. Yes they do lease the space from the university.
The bicycle coordinator uses Parker to do free 'bicycle safety checks' in
White Plaza when she sets up her table there for students to register with the
police. Parker had his employees strip the rear reflectors off of many new
bikes sold to students in order to make room for a non-reflective red flasher
that he sold to them as part of his "Light Package". |
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Nomen Nescio
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| Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:40 pm
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On Oct 14 2005 Bob Hunt wrote:
| Quote: | if this is the full story I have to wonder just how smart one must be to be
admitted to Stanford and how easily distressed the Stanford administrators
are.
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They were distressed here because the Stanford Daily was catching them doing
something very stupid. They actually panicked when they learned the Daily was
going to interview them about it, and got together (with Helmke and Parker) to
decide who would be interviewed and what to say.
Leo Lichtman wrote:
| Quote: | The offer was included with the University's admission packet. Doesn't that
tend to create confidence that the offer is legitimate? My question is,
"What business does the University have doing an endorsement and free
advertising/mailing to a local bike shop?
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The admission packets are aimed at parents and new students who were under-age
high school grads. It is not a simple question whether the 'offer' is
legitimate - it is more like the Stanford administration abusing their
academic authority over these kids by instructing them what to buy and from
whom. It is almost like coercive marketing in the same packet in which the
university is demanding their payments from them. The students might feel
like they're 'offending the gods' if they don't buy a bicycle from Parker.
Their parents are still very protective of them and therefore vulnerable to
the sales pitch "Security Package", "Wheel Locks", etc.
Peter Cole wrote:
| Quote: | I was thinking in the broader economics. My wife works for a large urban
university here in Boston and parking/traffic is a huge issue, it
heavily impacts community relations and often limits university
expansion. More cities, whether under the Clean Air Act or not, are
limiting autos.
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The Stanford campus has long been unfriendly to cars. Ticketing is ferocious.
Permits and parking meters are expensive. Gasoline prices are skyrocketing to
the point that people are indeed looking at alternative means of
transportation. This has made the 'bicycle program coordinator' a 'plum' job. |
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Bob
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:13 am
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Nomen Nescio wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Ben Pfaff wrote:
The Campus Bike Shop is the only bike shop actually on campus at
Stanford. It is mainly staffed by students, I believe. It is
undoubtedly leasing its space from the university. That's
something of an endorsement in itself. The next nearest bike
shops are a couple of miles away (although one can easily get to
them via the university's free bus service). I'm not surprised,
therefore, that the Campus Bike Shop would have a special status.
No, it is not staffed by students, nor for that matter by former Stanford
students. There are some hired but only occasionally. It has been on campus
for ages under different owners. The business itself has been owned
privately. Yes they do lease the space from the university.
The bicycle coordinator uses Parker to do free 'bicycle safety checks' in
White Plaza when she sets up her table there for students to register with the
police. Parker had his employees strip the rear reflectors off of many new
bikes sold to students in order to make room for a non-reflective red flasher
that he sold to them as part of his "Light Package".
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Personally, I wonder about both the accuracy and the motives of their
posts of any poster as committed to anonymity as this poster apparently
is. A google search reveals that the bulk of their usenet posts appear
in alt.anonymous and alt.hacker groups. Does this person even own a
bike?
Regards,
Bob Hunt |
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Ben Pfaff
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:24 am
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Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> writes:
| Quote: | Parker had his employees strip the rear reflectors off of many
new bikes sold to students in order to make room for a
non-reflective red flasher that he sold to them as part of his
"Light Package".
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That's illegal under the California Vehicle Code:
21201.5. (b) No person shall sell, or offer for sale, a new
bicycle that is not equipped with a red reflector on the
rear, a white or yellow reflector on each pedal visible
from the front and rear of the bicycle, a white or
yellow reflector on each side forward of the center of
the bicycle, and a white or red reflector on each side
to the rear of the center of the bicycle, except that
bicycles which are equipped with reflectorized tires on
the front and rear need not be equipped with these side
reflectors.
If you have evidence of this, then perhaps you should bring it up
with a sheriff's deputy.
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"Now I have to go wash my mind out with soap."
--Derick Siddoway |
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Tom Keats
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:52 am
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In article <1129403631.610545.185880@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Bob" <hunrobe@aol.com> writes:
| Quote: | Personally, I wonder about both the accuracy and the motives of their
posts of any poster as committed to anonymity as this poster apparently
is. A google search reveals that the bulk of their usenet posts appear
in alt.anonymous and alt.hacker groups. Does this person even own a
bike?
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"Nomen Nescio" is a trolling entity of great notoriety.
Killfiles should come with his/it's monicker as the
initial, default entry.
cheers,
Tom
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-- Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca |
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Justín Käse
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:57 am
Post subject: Re: Bogus Bicycle "Wheel-Locks" Sold To Incoming Stanford St |
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In Message-ID:<1129403631.610545.185880@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
posted on 15 Oct 2005 12:13:51 -0700, Bob wrote:
| Quote: | Does this person even own a bike?
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A better phrasing to some nymshit would be;
"Does this poster 'legitimately' own a bike?"
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JK |
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AustinMN
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:06 am
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gds wrote:
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Peter Cole wrote:
I would think that for an institution the size of Stanford, a bicycle
coordinator would be an important post.
You clearly have never worked in a major research university. Such a
position at a place like Stanford ranks along side the towel boy at the
pool.
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It wouldn't be if they charged $500/year for parking stickers (and enforced
no-parking bans in the neighborhood).
| Quote: | It could be
very cost-effective for the university, too.
Could be but probably not. Parking is usually a full cost+ recovery
center. Although that may not be the case at Stanford, it's been a
while since I looked at their budget.
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Peter Cole
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:49 pm
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AustinMN wrote:
| Quote: | gds wrote:
Peter Cole wrote:
I would think that for an institution the size of Stanford, a bicycle
coordinator would be an important post.
You clearly have never worked in a major research university. Such a
position at a place like Stanford ranks along side the towel boy at the
pool.
It wouldn't be if they charged $500/year for parking stickers (and
enforced no-parking bans in the neighborhood).
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Heck, my kid's high school does that... |
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rick++
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:44 am
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| Its a private bike shop on campus thats been there for decades. |
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dgk
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| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:12 pm
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On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:57:00 -0500, "AustinMN" <Austin260@comcast.net>
wrote:
| Quote: | gds wrote:
Peter Cole wrote:
I would think that for an institution the size of Stanford, a bicycle
coordinator would be an important post.
You clearly have never worked in a major research university. Such a
position at a place like Stanford ranks along side the towel boy at the
pool.
It wouldn't be if they charged $500/year for parking stickers (and enforced
no-parking bans in the neighborhood).
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I don't think that no-parking bans can be enforced just against
students, at least in NYC. There are a few private communities that
limit parking to residents only, but otherwise parking regulations on
a public street apply to everyone. |
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Ben Pfaff
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| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:50 pm
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dgk <dgk@postaway.com> writes:
| Quote: | I don't think that no-parking bans can be enforced just against
students, at least in NYC. There are a few private communities that
limit parking to residents only, but otherwise parking regulations on
a public street apply to everyone.
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Stanford is a private school.
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Ben Pfaff
email: blp@cs.stanford.edu
web: http://benpfaff.org |
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