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Peter Duncanson
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:03 pm
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:19:37 +0100, "Mike Lyle"
<mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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People do say "Lake Windermere", but that's informal to the point of
wrongth, and in my earlier posting about few Br lakes being called
"lake" I put in a limiting remark about formal use.
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Calling the water "Lake Windermere" might be formally incorrect, but it
is a convenient way of distinguishing between the lake and the town
which is also called just "Windermere".
It is wrongth to a legitimate purpose.
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Peter Duncanson
UK (posting from a.e.u)
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Matti Lamprhey
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:13 pm
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"Peter Duncanson" <mail@peterduncanson.net> wrote...
| Quote: | "Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
People do say "Lake Windermere", but that's informal to the point of
wrongth, and in my earlier posting about few Br lakes being called
"lake" I put in a limiting remark about formal use.
Calling the water "Lake Windermere" might be formally incorrect, but
it is a convenient way of distinguishing between the lake and the town
which is also called just "Windermere".
It is wrongth to a legitimate purpose.
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This ambiguity is recent; in 1847 the lake gained a railway terminus
which was named Windermere after the lake; this was just outside a
hamlet named Birthwaite. That village grew quickly and somehow took the
name of the station instead! Nowadays it's just an extension of
Bowness-on-Windermere.
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Phil C.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:21 pm
Post subject: Re: Mississippi (River) Thames ? |
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:56:37 +0100, Peter Duncanson
<mail@peterduncanson.net> quoted:
| Quote: | When the river has the name of some other feature, it is the X
River. It cannot be the Three Mills Wall because, of course,
that would be the name of a wall. Bedford would be first the
name of a ford and then the settlement around the ford, so
whether new or old the 'River' is necessary.
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Bedford is on the Ouse. I dimly recall, FWIW, that the Bedford
"rivers" - a long way from the town of Beford - were named after the
Duke of Bedford who was responsible for draining (and grabbing) a lot
of land.
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Phil C.
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Peter Duncanson
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:16 pm
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:13:06 +0100, "Matti Lamprhey"
<matti@official-totally-reversed.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Peter Duncanson" <mail@peterduncanson.net> wrote...
"Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
People do say "Lake Windermere", but that's informal to the point of
wrongth, and in my earlier posting about few Br lakes being called
"lake" I put in a limiting remark about formal use.
Calling the water "Lake Windermere" might be formally incorrect, but
it is a convenient way of distinguishing between the lake and the town
which is also called just "Windermere".
It is wrongth to a legitimate purpose.
This ambiguity is recent; in 1847 the lake gained a railway terminus
which was named Windermere after the lake; this was just outside a
hamlet named Birthwaite. That village grew quickly and somehow took the
name of the station instead! Nowadays it's just an extension of
Bowness-on-Windermere.
I stayed in Windermere (the settlement) for a week or two in the early |
'60s. I was on honeymoon. The marriage didn't last, but that cannot
really be blamed on geographical naming oddities.
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Peter Duncanson
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