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ringoo
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:00 am
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What do Americans think about British pronunciation?
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Alan Jones
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:27 pm
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"ringoo" <imringoo@gmail.com> wrote in message
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What do Americans think about British pronunciation?
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And of course what do the British think about American pronunciation?
In either case, what kind of pronunciation does one mean? (It may be that
some Americans hate London pronunciation but love Scottish, and so on.)
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JPG
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:01 pm
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On 3 Oct 2005 22:15:29 -0700, "ringoo" <imringoo@gmail.com> wrote:
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What do Americans think about British pronunciation?
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I think you will find that there is more variation in pronunciation in one
county of the British Isles than there is in the whole of North America.
Even "standard" British pronunciation - received pronunciation (RP) - has
changed over my lifetime from a plum-in-the-mouth accent such as that of the
Queen to a modified southeast accent, sometimes called Estuary English.
BBC newsreaders are no guide, as regional accents are now common and seem to be
encouraged.
I have been told by Americans that they think the (RP) accent is pleasant and
mellifluous, having more tonal variation than many American accents, which can
sound very monotonous at times.
Most Americans will recognise a Scottish accent but they seem to be pretty
clueless when they hear other regional accents. Baby boomers will probably
recognise a Scouse accent, due to being Beatles fans in their youth.
Americans, like the British, dislike mangled vowels so they dislike the accent
of the Deep South, much as the British generally dislike a Brummy accent.
JPG
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Harvey Van Sickle
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:12 pm
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On 04 Oct 2005, JPG wrote
| Quote: | On 3 Oct 2005 22:15:29 -0700, "ringoo" <imringoo@gmail.com> wrote:
What do Americans think about British pronunciation?
I think you will find that there is more variation in
pronunciation in one county of the British Isles than there is in
the whole of North America.
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I think you'll find that you're comparing your first-hand experience of
UK accents with "knowledge" of North American accents which
you've gained from movies and television.
Even national differences here in the UK -- say between a Yorkshireman
and a Home Counties gel -- don't approach the difference between
a clipped New England accent and a deep-south drawler.
--
Cheers, Harvey
Canadian (30 years) and British (23 years)
For e-mail, change harvey.news to harvey.van |
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JPG
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:31 pm
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On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:12:49 GMT, Harvey Van Sickle <harvey.news@ntlworld.com>
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| Quote: | On 04 Oct 2005, JPG wrote
On 3 Oct 2005 22:15:29 -0700, "ringoo" <imringoo@gmail.com> wrote:
What do Americans think about British pronunciation?
I think you will find that there is more variation in
pronunciation in one county of the British Isles than there is in
the whole of North America.
I think you'll find that you're comparing your first-hand experience of
UK accents with "knowledge" of North American accents which
you've gained from movies and television.
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My knowledge has been gained first hand in both countries as I have lived in
both. I still maintain that there is more difference between a Bromsgrove,
Worcestershire accent and a Wyre Piddle, Worcestershire accent than there is
say, between a Savannah and a Boston accent. The USA is remarkably uniform as
far as accents go (excepting creoles and pidgins such as Gullah).
| Quote: | Even national differences here in the UK -- say between a Yorkshireman
and a Home Counties gel -- don't approach the difference between
a clipped New England accent and a deep-south drawler. |
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Harvey Van Sickle
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:38 pm
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On 04 Oct 2005, JPG wrote
| Quote: | On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:12:49 GMT, Harvey Van Sickle
harvey.news@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 04 Oct 2005, JPG wrote
On 3 Oct 2005 22:15:29 -0700, "ringoo" <imringoo@gmail.com
wrote:
What do Americans think about British pronunciation?
I think you will find that there is more variation in
pronunciation in one county of the British Isles than there is
in the whole of North America.
I think you'll find that you're comparing your first-hand
experience of UK accents with "knowledge" of North American
accents which you've gained from movies and television.
My knowledge has been gained first hand in both countries as I
have lived in both. I still maintain that there is more
difference between a Bromsgrove, Worcestershire accent and a Wyre
Piddle, Worcestershire accent than there is say, between a
Savannah and a Boston accent. The USA is remarkably uniform as
far as accents go (excepting creoles and pidgins such as Gullah).
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Each to his own; it suggests to me that you've got a tin ear for non-
UK accents.
--
Cheers, Harvey
Canadian (30 years) and British (23 years)
For e-mail, change harvey.news to harvey.van |
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the Omrud
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:40 pm
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JPG spake thusly:
| Quote: | My knowledge has been gained first hand in both countries as I have lived in
both. I still maintain that there is more difference between a Bromsgrove,
Worcestershire accent and a Wyre Piddle, Worcestershire accent than there is
say, between a Savannah and a Boston accent. The USA is remarkably uniform as
far as accents go (excepting creoles and pidgins such as Gullah).
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I'm not convinced that anybody speaks with a Bromsgrove accent any
more, since all those southern Brummies flowed over the Lickey Hills
into the new housing.
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David
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JPG
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:05 pm
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On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:40:17 GMT, the Omrud <usenet.omrud@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | JPG spake thusly:
My knowledge has been gained first hand in both countries as I have lived in
both. I still maintain that there is more difference between a Bromsgrove,
Worcestershire accent and a Wyre Piddle, Worcestershire accent than there is
say, between a Savannah and a Boston accent. The USA is remarkably uniform as
far as accents go (excepting creoles and pidgins such as Gullah).
I'm not convinced that anybody speaks with a Bromsgrove accent any
more, since all those southern Brummies flowed over the Lickey Hills
into the new housing.
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And over the Clent Hills into Kidderminster. |
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JPG
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:15 pm
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On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:38:13 GMT, Harvey Van Sickle <harvey.news@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | On 04 Oct 2005, JPG wrote
On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:12:49 GMT, Harvey Van Sickle
harvey.news@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 04 Oct 2005, JPG wrote
On 3 Oct 2005 22:15:29 -0700, "ringoo" <imringoo@gmail.com
wrote:
What do Americans think about British pronunciation?
I think you will find that there is more variation in
pronunciation in one county of the British Isles than there is
in the whole of North America.
I think you'll find that you're comparing your first-hand
experience of UK accents with "knowledge" of North American
accents which you've gained from movies and television.
My knowledge has been gained first hand in both countries as I
have lived in both. I still maintain that there is more
difference between a Bromsgrove, Worcestershire accent and a Wyre
Piddle, Worcestershire accent than there is say, between a
Savannah and a Boston accent. The USA is remarkably uniform as
far as accents go (excepting creoles and pidgins such as Gullah).
Each to his own; it suggests to me that you've got a tin ear for non-
UK accents.
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Maybe I did not hear many street accents, true, but I worked and lived among
reasonably well-educated people from all over the Eastern and Mid-Western US,
from Portland, Maine to Tampa to Denver and their accents were, IMHO and in
comparison with the diversity in the UK, fairly uniform. |
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Django Cat
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:26 pm
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ringoo wrote:
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What do Americans think about British pronunciation?
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They think we only do it to wind them up, and when they aren't
listening we talk 'normally'.
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Django Cat
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:28 pm
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Harvey Van Sickle wrote:
| Quote: | On 04 Oct 2005, JPG wrote
On 3 Oct 2005 22:15:29 -0700, "ringoo" <imringoo@gmail.com> wrote:
What do Americans think about British pronunciation?
I think you will find that there is more variation in
pronunciation in one county of the British Isles than there is in
the whole of North America.
I think you'll find that you're comparing your first-hand experience
of UK accents with "knowledge" of North American accents which
you've gained from movies and television.
Even national differences here in the UK -- say between a
Yorkshireman and a Home Counties gel -- don't approach the difference
between a clipped New England accent and a deep-south drawler.
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Is that a kind of fishing boat?
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Harvey Van Sickle
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:32 pm
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On 04 Oct 2005, Django Cat wrote
| Quote: | Harvey Van Sickle wrote:
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| Quote: | Even national differences here in the UK -- say between a
Yorkshireman and a Home Counties gel -- don't approach the
difference between a clipped New England accent and a deep-south
drawler.
Is that a kind of fishing boat?
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Only in certain tialects.
--
Cheers, Harvey
Canadian (30 years) and British (23 years)
For e-mail, change harvey.news to harvey.van |
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