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Chris Tsao
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:00 am    Post subject: How do you use daggers and double daggers in a cross referen Reply with quote

Hi,

I am researching daggers, double daggers, section marks and all the
other symbols that are used with them and came accross this site below,
so I though I'd ask how a "footnote" is different than a "reference
mark"?

(Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary gives the definition of a
reference mark as: a convention mark (as *, , or ) placed in
written or printed text to direct the reader's attention esp. to a
footnote)


http://www.brl.org/formats/rule05.html

It says:

(1) Nonalphabetical signs as footnote and reference marks. When used as
footnote and reference marks, the print signs below must be transcribed
according to .


In this other site I came accross
(http://www.answers.com/topic/double-dagger), it says that a dagger is
"a character used in printing to indicate a cross reference or
footnote."

My dictionary says that a crosss reference is a notation or direction
at one place (such as a book or filing system) to pertinent information
at another place.

So I have to ask How are these symbols used in a cross reference? Do
you put the symbols along with page numbers and then on the pages with
those numbers, the same symbols next to the information? I always
thought that the daggers, section marks (that symbol that looks like
two _S's_ superimposed) were archaic and rarely used footnotes, but
last week, when I was browsing through a book in Barnes & Noble, I saw
that the author used regular modern footnotes on one page, and the
old-fashioned daggers, section marks et cetera on another page.

I coincidentally came accross this site below (don't ask) a few hours
ago, so I thought I'd ask if they used the dagger and double dagger
correctly?

http://www.notam02.no/~hcholm/altlang/ht/Macedonian.1.html#so0
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Don Phillipson
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you use daggers and double daggers in a cross ref Reply with quote

"Chris Tsao" <rigida7147@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1128057583.687511.15480@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

Quote:
I am researching daggers, double daggers, section marks and all the
other symbols that are used with them and came accross this site below,
so I though I'd ask how a "footnote" is different than a "reference mark"?

The information you seek is found in style manuals
for scholarly publication, e.g. the Chicago Manual of Style.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


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Odysseus
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you use daggers and double daggers in a cross ref Reply with quote

Chris Tsao wrote:
Quote:

I am researching daggers, double daggers, section marks and all the
other symbols that are used with them and came accross this site below,
so I though I'd ask how a "footnote" is different than a "reference
mark"?

snip

So I have to ask How are these symbols used in a cross reference? Do
you put the symbols along with page numbers and then on the pages with
those numbers, the same symbols next to the information? I always
thought that the daggers, section marks (that symbol that looks like
two _S's_ superimposed) were archaic and rarely used footnotes, but
last week, when I was browsing through a book in Barnes & Noble, I saw
that the author used regular modern footnotes on one page, and the
old-fashioned daggers, section marks et cetera on another page.

Sometimes the two styles are used to distinguish authorial notes from
those added by an editor or commentator. Another possibility is that
the traditional symbols are being used for explanatory notes, while
the numbers refer to mere citations of other works.

The notes referenced by the asterisk, dagger, &c. are almost always
found at the foot of the same page, the symbols being 'recycled' for
each new page, while numbered notes may appear at the end of the
chapter, or even in the back of the book, and aren't usually reused
within the same article, chapter or section.

A completely different usage for the dagger or _obelus_ is in
genealogies and the like, to mark deaths (or sometimes, when
accompanying regnal dates for monarchs, depositions or abdications).

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Odysseus
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