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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:05 am
Post subject: What does versluggerin (sp?) mean in English? |
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Can someone help me with a half-remembered word which
is used in some English context but which seems to be of
recent foreign language origin?
I recall reading this word in some English language
context, but it is clearly a foreign word. I can't remember
the spelling, but it was used as an intensifier or expletive
modifying a noun.
It was something like "fershluggenin" or "verslugerin."
What's the right spelling, the meaning, and if possible,
a likely context for encountering such a word? (For a
made-up example, "late 19th century baseball
commentators used this word, borrowed from Danish.")
Thanks,
NarniaFan |
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:05 am
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narniafan@earthlink.net filted:
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It was something like "fershluggenin" or "verslugerin."
What's the right spelling, the meaning, and if possible,
a likely context for encountering such a word? (For a
made-up example, "late 19th century baseball
commentators used this word, borrowed from Danish.")
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The correct spelling is "fershlugginer"...the meaning, such as it is, is a
simple intensifier...and the most likely context for encountering the word is
proximity to the word "potrzebie"....r |
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Alan
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:04 pm
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<narniafan@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Can someone help me with a half-remembered word which
is used in some English context but which seems to be of
recent foreign language origin?
I recall reading this word in some English language
context, but it is clearly a foreign word. I can't remember
the spelling, but it was used as an intensifier or expletive
modifying a noun.
It was something like "fershluggenin" or "verslugerin."
What's the right spelling, the meaning, and if possible,
a likely context for encountering such a word? (For a
made-up example, "late 19th century baseball
commentators used this word, borrowed from Danish.")
Thanks,
NarniaFan
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It's Yiddish.
"Farshlugginer - Refers to a mixed-up or shaken item. Generally indicates
something of little or dubious value"
source: http://www.pass.to/glossary/gloz1.htm#letf |
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MiChAeL_z
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:32 pm
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Użytkownik "R H Draney" <dadoctah@spamcop.net> napisał w wiadomości
news:dh7vq806ei@drn.newsguy.com...
| Quote: | narniafan@earthlink.net filted:
It was something like "fershluggenin" or "verslugerin."
What's the right spelling, the meaning, and if possible,
a likely context for encountering such a word? (For a
made-up example, "late 19th century baseball
commentators used this word, borrowed from Danish.")
The correct spelling is "fershlugginer"...the meaning, such as it is, is a
simple intensifier...and the most likely context for encountering the word
is
proximity to the word "potrzebie"....r
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"potrzebie" is a Polish word. I just wonder why the heck:) "fershlugginer"
occurs in "potrzebie" proximity?
Hejda
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Jess Askin
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:47 pm
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MiChAeL_z wrote:
| Quote: | Użytkownik "R H Draney" <dadoctah@spamcop.net> napisał w wiadomości
news:dh7vq806ei@drn.newsguy.com...
narniafan@earthlink.net filted:
It was something like "fershluggenin" or "verslugerin."
What's the right spelling, the meaning, and if possible,
a likely context for encountering such a word? (For a
made-up example, "late 19th century baseball
commentators used this word, borrowed from Danish.")
The correct spelling is "fershlugginer"...the meaning, such as it
is, is a simple intensifier...and the most likely context for
encountering the word is
proximity to the word "potrzebie"....r
"potrzebie" is a Polish word. I just wonder why the heck:)
"fershlugginer" occurs in "potrzebie" proximity?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potrzebie |
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MiChAeL_z
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:32 pm
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Użytkownik "Jess Askin" <jessaskinDONTTYPETHISPART@yahoo.com> napisał w
wiadomości news:dh8n1p$n3h$1@news.netins.net...
Thx;) Now it's clear.
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Joe Fineman
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:35 pm
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R H Draney <dadoctah@spamcop.net> writes:
| Quote: | The correct spelling is "fershlugginer"...the meaning, such as it
is, is a simple intensifier...and the most likely context for
encountering the word is proximity to the word "potrzebie"....r
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It's fake Yiddish. I had always taken it to be a term of mild abuse,
along the lines of "dratted".
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Segensreich Maschinerich
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:46 pm
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narniafan@earthlink.net in
<1127710061.318780.171870@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>:
| Quote: | I recall reading this word in some English language
context, but it is clearly a foreign word. I can't remember
the spelling, but it was used as an intensifier or expletive
modifying a noun.
It was something like "fershluggenin" or "verslugerin."
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Apart from MAD magazine as its apparent origin [1], "fershlugginer"
seems to be a phonetic transcription of the German word "verschlagener".
The apparent use of "fershlugginer" in English seems unrelated to the
use of its German counterpart. Methinks it's simply a jocular attempt to
invent a "Yiddish" word, intended to be nonsensical.
SM
[1] Hence Mr Draney's reference to "potrzebie"
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Joe Fineman
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:45 am
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Segensreich Maschinerich <NOSPAMreallyNOT@gmx.net> writes:
| Quote: | The apparent use of "fershlugginer" in English seems unrelated to
the use of its German counterpart. Methinks it's simply a jocular
attempt to invent a "Yiddish" word, intended to be nonsensical.
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That's what I thought, but according to a link given elsewhere in this
thread, it is an actual Yiddish word, presumably derived from the
German one you mention. These things happen. Some years ago I was
astonished to discover that "Ah so" is actual Japanese.
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Murray Arnow
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:06 am
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Joe Fineman wrote:
| Quote: | Some years ago I was astonished to discover that "Ah so" is actual Japanese.
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Would you be astonished to learn that "ah so" is Chinese, too? If your
response is "Das frayt mir in mayn yashlis," I'd understand. |
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Segensreich Maschinerich
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:05 pm
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Joe Fineman in <u7jd2yq8q.fsf@verizon.net>:
| Quote: | Segensreich Maschinerich <NOSPAMreallyNOT@gmx.net> writes:
The apparent use of "fershlugginer" in English seems unrelated to
the use of its German counterpart. Methinks it's simply a jocular
attempt to invent a "Yiddish" word, intended to be nonsensical.
That's what I thought, but according to a link given elsewhere in this
thread, it is an actual Yiddish word,
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I believe it's more likely that the author of said web site picked it up
without being aware that it was actually coined by the authors of MAD
magazine where it first appeared.
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German one you mention.
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Like I said, the purported meaning of "fershlugginer" in English seems
unrelated to the use of its apparent German counterpart. I think this
would not be the case if it were actually derived like you suggest.
All in all, I think the evidence points to "fershlugginer" being a
pseudo-Yiddish neologism, at least until someone can cite a credible
source proving the actual use of the word *prior* to its appearance in
MAD magazine.
SM
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