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Cat
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:00 am
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Hello, again.
I think I've heard "settle out" from the Simpsons quite often. For
example, "It's all settled out." I think this sentence means that all
is ready or all is established. I tried to look up this phrase from my
Korean-English dictionary, but there wasn't. The nearest ones were
settle up, settle on. Then I tried online English dictionary site
(dictionary.com) but it said no result.
Is "settle out" a correct phrase that I can use in my writing? Do you
have any advice on its usage? Thank you.
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ray o'hara
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:00 am
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"Cat" <typingcat@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Hello, again.
I think I've heard "settle out" from the Simpsons quite often. For
example, "It's all settled out." I think this sentence means that all
is ready or all is established. I tried to look up this phrase from my
Korean-English dictionary, but there wasn't. The nearest ones were
settle up, settle on. Then I tried online English dictionary site
(dictionary.com) but it said no result.
Is "settle out" a correct phrase that I can use in my writing? Do you
have any advice on its usage? Thank you.
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John Dean
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:33 pm
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Cat wrote:
| Quote: | Hello, again.
I think I've heard "settle out" from the Simpsons quite often. For
example, "It's all settled out." I think this sentence means that all
is ready or all is established. I tried to look up this phrase from my
Korean-English dictionary, but there wasn't. The nearest ones were
settle up, settle on. Then I tried online English dictionary site
(dictionary.com) but it said no result.
Is "settle out" a correct phrase that I can use in my writing? Do you
have any advice on its usage? Thank you.
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When you're looking for words or phrases that are not in common use, you
really need a substantial dictionary such as the Oxford English
Dictionary (the version that runs to about a dozen volumes and fills a
library bookshelf all by itself. Or the CD. Or an on-line subscription -
which your local library or college may have.)
For "settle ", the OED has as one meaning:
"18. a. intr. Of suspended particles or impurities in a liquid: To
come to rest after agitation or disturbance; to collect as scum or
sediment by gravitation; now chiefly (with mixture of sense 13), to sink
to the bottom as sediment."
And then it says, for that meaning, "Also to settle out"
As a cite it gives
"1883 Haldane Workshop Rec. Ser. ii. 302/2 The liquor is kept+in a
fluid condition, to allow mechanical impurities to settle out."
There's also a cite under the entry for "dispersion":
" 1944 Petroleum Refiner Dec. 504/2 The property of maintaining
insoluble matter (sludges and contaminants) in dispersion in the oil so
that they will not settle out. "
So "settle out" is a fairly specialised scientific term involved a
mixture separating into its components.
There may also be a specialised use in the USA that OED doesn't have. A
distinguished American will be along shortly to pronounce on the
subject.
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John Dean
Oxford
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Tony Cooper
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:34 pm
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 12:33:53 +0100, "John Dean"
<john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote:
| Quote: | So "settle out" is a fairly specialised scientific term involved a
mixture separating into its components.
There may also be a specialised use in the USA that OED doesn't have. A
distinguished American will be along shortly to pronounce on the
subject.
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I'm here in advance to hold the door for the distinguished American.
I don't think I've ever heard "settled out" in any conversation or
seen it in any writing.
"Settled up", however, is very common. It means to finalize any
financial arrangements. A group at a restaurant that all intend to
pay for their own meals will "settle up" at the end of the evening and
each contribute an amount to cover their expenses.
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Pavel314
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:20 am
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"Cat" <typingcat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127624359.198506.118310@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Hello, again.
I think I've heard "settle out" from the Simpsons quite often. For
example, "It's all settled out." I think this sentence means that all
is ready or all is established. I tried to look up this phrase from my
Korean-English dictionary, but there wasn't. The nearest ones were
settle up, settle on. Then I tried online English dictionary site
(dictionary.com) but it said no result.
Is "settle out" a correct phrase that I can use in my writing? Do you
have any advice on its usage? Thank you.
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I make my own wine. After pressing the grapes, it stays in a carboy (large
glass jug) until the bits of fruit and yeast cells "settle out", leaving
clear wine on top.
When my children were little and getting a bit wild I'd tell them to "settle
down". Also, I enjoyed my wild and crazy single days until I "settled down"
and got married.
If you can't get what you really want, you "settle for" an alternative.
In financial matters, you "settle up" and pay the balance due.
You can shop and shop and shop until you "settle on" a selection to
purchase.
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Jan
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 4:29 am
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Could there be confusion here with "sorted out"? This is what the usage
attributed to the Simpsons sounded like to me.
Jan |
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John Dean
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 4:31 am
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Pavel314 wrote:
| Quote: | "Cat" <typingcat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127624359.198506.118310@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Hello, again.
I think I've heard "settle out" from the Simpsons quite often. For
example, "It's all settled out." I think this sentence means that all
is ready or all is established. I tried to look up this phrase from
my Korean-English dictionary, but there wasn't. The nearest ones were
settle up, settle on. Then I tried online English dictionary site
(dictionary.com) but it said no result.
Is "settle out" a correct phrase that I can use in my writing? Do you
have any advice on its usage? Thank you.
I make my own wine. After pressing the grapes, it stays in a carboy
(large glass jug) until the bits of fruit and yeast cells "settle
out", leaving clear wine on top.
When my children were little and getting a bit wild I'd tell them to
"settle down". Also, I enjoyed my wild and crazy single days until I
"settled down" and got married.
If you can't get what you really want, you "settle for" an
alternative.
In financial matters, you "settle up" and pay the balance due.
You can shop and shop and shop until you "settle on" a selection to
purchase.
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I think I'd settle for that, sitting on the settle.
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John Dean
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JPG
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:41 pm
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 15:20:11 -0400, "Pavel314" <Pavel314@NOSPAM.comcast.net>
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| Quote: | "Cat" <typingcat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127624359.198506.118310@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Hello, again.
I think I've heard "settle out" from the Simpsons quite often. For
example, "It's all settled out." I think this sentence means that all
is ready or all is established. I tried to look up this phrase from my
Korean-English dictionary, but there wasn't. The nearest ones were
settle up, settle on. Then I tried online English dictionary site
(dictionary.com) but it said no result.
Is "settle out" a correct phrase that I can use in my writing? Do you
have any advice on its usage? Thank you.
I make my own wine. After pressing the grapes, it stays in a carboy (large
glass jug) until the bits of fruit and yeast cells "settle out", leaving
clear wine on top.
When my children were little and getting a bit wild I'd tell them to "settle
down". Also, I enjoyed my wild and crazy single days until I "settled down"
and got married.
If you can't get what you really want, you "settle for" an alternative.
In financial matters, you "settle up" and pay the balance due.
You can shop and shop and shop until you "settle on" a selection to
purchase.
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They are phrasal verbs - the sort that only a native speaker can use with
confidence? They should all have one-word synonyms.
Settle out - precipitate
Settle in - establish?
settle for/on - decide
settle up - tally?
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the Omrud
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:08 pm
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JPG spake thusly:
| Quote: | On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 15:20:11 -0400, "Pavel314" <Pavel314@NOSPAM.comcast.net
wrote:
"Cat" <typingcat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127624359.198506.118310@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Hello, again.
I think I've heard "settle out" from the Simpsons quite often. For
example, "It's all settled out." I think this sentence means that all
is ready or all is established. I tried to look up this phrase from my
Korean-English dictionary, but there wasn't. The nearest ones were
settle up, settle on. Then I tried online English dictionary site
(dictionary.com) but it said no result.
Is "settle out" a correct phrase that I can use in my writing? Do you
have any advice on its usage? Thank you.
I make my own wine. After pressing the grapes, it stays in a carboy (large
glass jug) until the bits of fruit and yeast cells "settle out", leaving
clear wine on top.
When my children were little and getting a bit wild I'd tell them to "settle
down". Also, I enjoyed my wild and crazy single days until I "settled down"
and got married.
If you can't get what you really want, you "settle for" an alternative.
In financial matters, you "settle up" and pay the balance due.
You can shop and shop and shop until you "settle on" a selection to
purchase.
They are phrasal verbs - the sort that only a native speaker can use with
confidence? They should all have one-word synonyms.
Settle out - precipitate
Settle in - establish?
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Nope, it means to get used to a place. "We'll visit you in your new
home when you've settled in".
| Quote: | settle for/on - decide
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These are different. Settle on is "decide", but settle for has a
underlying meaning that it's a compromise decision. "He wanted to go
bowling so I had to settle for a noisy evening".
| Quote: | settle up - tally?
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Not quite - settle up means to pay a debt. E.g: "If you buy the
tickets then I'll settle up with you later".
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David
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JPG
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 4:30 pm
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On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 09:08:29 GMT, the Omrud <usenet.omrud@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | JPG spake thusly:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 15:20:11 -0400, "Pavel314" <Pavel314@NOSPAM.comcast.net
wrote:
"Cat" <typingcat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127624359.198506.118310@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Hello, again.
I think I've heard "settle out" from the Simpsons quite often. For
example, "It's all settled out." I think this sentence means that all
is ready or all is established. I tried to look up this phrase from my
Korean-English dictionary, but there wasn't. The nearest ones were
settle up, settle on. Then I tried online English dictionary site
(dictionary.com) but it said no result.
Is "settle out" a correct phrase that I can use in my writing? Do you
have any advice on its usage? Thank you.
I make my own wine. After pressing the grapes, it stays in a carboy (large
glass jug) until the bits of fruit and yeast cells "settle out", leaving
clear wine on top.
When my children were little and getting a bit wild I'd tell them to "settle
down". Also, I enjoyed my wild and crazy single days until I "settled down"
and got married.
If you can't get what you really want, you "settle for" an alternative.
In financial matters, you "settle up" and pay the balance due.
You can shop and shop and shop until you "settle on" a selection to
purchase.
They are phrasal verbs - the sort that only a native speaker can use with
confidence? They should all have one-word synonyms.
Settle out - precipitate
Settle in - establish?
Nope, it means to get used to a place. "We'll visit you in your new
home when you've settled in".
settle for/on - decide
These are different. Settle on is "decide", but settle for has a
underlying meaning that it's a compromise decision. "He wanted to go
bowling so I had to settle for a noisy evening".
settle up - tally?
Not quite - settle up means to pay a debt. E.g: "If you buy the
tickets then I'll settle up with you later".
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No single word synonyms then?
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Weatherlawyer
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:34 pm
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Pavel314 wrote:
| Quote: | When my children were little and getting a bit wild I'd tell them to "settle
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I can almost hear Principle Skinner saying it now. I think I would have
remembered someone on the Simpsons say "Settle out".
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Robert Lieblich
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Weatherlawyer wrote:
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Pavel314 wrote:
When my children were little and getting a bit wild I'd tell them to "settle
down".
I can almost hear Principle Skinner
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Oy!
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the Omrud
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:09 am
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JPG spake thusly:
| Quote: | On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 09:08:29 GMT, the Omrud <usenet.omrud@gmail.com> wrote:
JPG spake thusly:
settle up - tally?
Not quite - settle up means to pay a debt. E.g: "If you buy the
tickets then I'll settle up with you later".
No single word synonyms then?
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Should there be single word synonyms? The reason we have all these
different words and phrases in English is because they all mean
something slightly different.
A thesaurus gives:
accord, award, balance, compensate, indemnify, make amends, make
restitution, offset, pay back, pay dues, rebate, recompense, refund,
reimburse, remunerate, requite, restore, return, reward, square,
but none of those means "settle up". Reimburse is the closest.
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Matti Lamprhey
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:55 pm
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"the Omrud" <usenet.omrud@gmail.com> wrote...
| Quote: | JPG spake thusly:
the Omrud <usenet.omrud@gmail.com> wrote:
JPG spake thusly:
settle up - tally?
Not quite - settle up means to pay a debt. E.g: "If you buy the
tickets then I'll settle up with you later".
No single word synonyms then?
Should there be single word synonyms? The reason we have all these
different words and phrases in English is because they all mean
something slightly different.
A thesaurus gives:
accord, award, balance, compensate, indemnify, make amends, make
restitution, offset, pay back, pay dues, rebate, recompense, refund,
reimburse, remunerate, requite, restore, return, reward, square,
but none of those means "settle up". Reimburse is the closest.
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If we're discussing "settle up", "square" and "balance" are the closest
for me; "reimburse" seems rather more specialized, as would
"recompense" and "refund". A group of people can "settle up" a series
of individual debts to each other by offsetting -- typically done after
a meal, for example.
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