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Nick
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:13 pm
Post subject: Sophie Raworth said, "HaRASS" on the BBC Six O' Clock News! |
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That's the *American* pronounciation!
Once upon a time, there was a thing called 'BBC English', but, sadly,
standards have dropped! :-(
Nick
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Will
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:36 pm
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Nick wrote:
| Quote: | That's the *American* pronounciation!
Once upon a time, there was a thing called 'BBC English', but, sadly,
standards have dropped! 
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They all say REsearch, and most say sKedule (instead of SHedule), so
you're right - the standards have slipped. I'm waiting for the first
one to say missul, instead of missile.
Will. |
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Robert Lieblich
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Sophie Raworth said, "HaRASS" on the BBC Six O' Clock Ne |
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Will wrote:
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Nick wrote:
That's the *American* pronounciation!
Once upon a time, there was a thing called 'BBC English', but, sadly,
standards have dropped! :-(
They all say REsearch, and most say sKedule (instead of SHedule), so
you're right - the standards have slipped. I'm waiting for the first
one to say missul, instead of missile.
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We are American. You will be assimilated.
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Bob Lieblich
Borg
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:18 pm
Post subject: Re: Sophie Raworth said, "HaRASS" on the BBC Six O' Clock Ne |
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Robert Lieblich wrote:
| Quote: | Will wrote:
Nick wrote:
That's the *American* pronounciation!
Once upon a time, there was a thing called 'BBC English', but, sadly,
standards have dropped! :-(
They all say REsearch, and most say sKedule (instead of SHedule), so
you're right - the standards have slipped. I'm waiting for the first
one to say missul, instead of missile.
We are American. You will be assimilated.
--
Bob Lieblich
Borg
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We'll know we have been when BBC announcers say "BirmingHAM" and
"BalHAM".
Only a matter of time, I suppose!
Roger |
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JPG
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:55 pm
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:51:50 -0400, Robert Lieblich
<robert.lieblich@verizon.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Will wrote:
Nick wrote:
That's the *American* pronounciation!
Once upon a time, there was a thing called 'BBC English', but, sadly,
standards have dropped! :-(
They all say REsearch, and most say sKedule (instead of SHedule), so
you're right - the standards have slipped. I'm waiting for the first
one to say missul, instead of missile.
We are American. You will be assimilated.
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No, not the 51st state? Can we have your cheap petrol (gasoline)? Do we really
have to say "under god" in the pledge? Will our kids have to be taught
intelligent design in the biology classrooms? |
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Tony Cooper
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:06 am
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:55:27 +0100, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:51:50 -0400, Robert Lieblich
robert.lieblich@verizon.net> wrote:
Will wrote:
Nick wrote:
That's the *American* pronounciation!
Once upon a time, there was a thing called 'BBC English', but, sadly,
standards have dropped! :-(
They all say REsearch, and most say sKedule (instead of SHedule), so
you're right - the standards have slipped. I'm waiting for the first
one to say missul, instead of missile.
We are American. You will be assimilated.
No, not the 51st state? Can we have your cheap petrol (gasoline)? Do we really
have to say "under god" in the pledge? Will our kids have to be taught
intelligent design in the biology classrooms?
No American child is "taught" intelligent design. Some American |
children are informed that evolution is one theory, and intelligent
design is another. In some cases, the informing is no more than a
sticker on a biology text on evolution mandated by the local school
board.
That's bad enough, but please don't think we actually teach it.
Waffle: American children in private religious schools take classes
in the Biblical story of man. This is not the theory of "intelligent
design", though.
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Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL |
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Will
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:30 am
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Robert Lieblich wrote:
| Quote: | Will wrote:
Nick wrote:
That's the *American* pronounciation!
Once upon a time, there was a thing called 'BBC English', but, sadly,
standards have dropped! :-(
They all say REsearch, and most say sKedule (instead of SHedule), so
you're right - the standards have slipped. I'm waiting for the first
one to say missul, instead of missile.
We are American. You will be assimilated.
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Ain't that the truth.
Will
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Nick
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:50 pm
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rogertidy@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | Robert Lieblich wrote:
Will wrote:
Nick wrote:
That's the *American* pronounciation!
Once upon a time, there was a thing called 'BBC English', but, sadly,
standards have dropped! :-(
They all say REsearch, and most say sKedule (instead of SHedule), so
you're right - the standards have slipped. I'm waiting for the first
one to say missul, instead of missile.
We are American. You will be assimilated.
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Bob Lieblich
Borg
We'll know we have been when BBC announcers say "BirmingHAM" and
"BalHAM".
Only a matter of time, I suppose!
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Peter Sellers made a *very* funny record about "BalHAM", impersonating
American James A. Fitzpatrick!
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Nick
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:52 pm
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Robert Lieblich wrote:
| Quote: | Will wrote:
Nick wrote:
That's the *American* pronounciation!
Once upon a time, there was a thing called 'BBC English', but, sadly,
standards have dropped! :-(
They all say REsearch, and most say sKedule (instead of SHedule), so
you're right - the standards have slipped. I'm waiting for the first
one to say missul, instead of missile.
We are American. You will be assimilated.
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LOL! - it's *happening*! :-)
Nick |
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ray o'hara
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:30 pm
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<rogertidy@yahoo.com> >
| Quote: | We'll know we have been when BBC announcers say "BirmingHAM" and
"BalHAM".
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I live in Massachusetts, an area with many towns ending in ham and it
varies as to whether it is "HAM" or "em". I live in Dedham, 'DEAD em' the
next town over is Needham, NEED em, but nearby is Framingham , Framing HAM.
and Bellingham,Belling HAM. Then there is Chatham,Chat em' and then
Waltham, Wall THAM. It confuses the hell out of tourists. |
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Don Phillipson
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:54 pm
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"Nick" <pacifico@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:1126861981.052762.255940@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Once upon a time, there was a thing called 'BBC English', but, sadly,
standards have dropped!
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Not really. BBC English when defined as oral norms (by a
committee including G.B. Shaw and other notables) prescribed
accent as well as grammar, and chose the middle-class
accent of southeast England. The BBC changed its policy
in the 1960s (possibly influenced by a Harold Wilson government)
to permit (1) regional accents in national i.e. non-regional
programming, (2) much less reliance on scripts vetted in
advance, thus much more extempore improvisation at the
microphone. Without any overt policy decision, the BBC
was then influenced by the desire to recapture audiences
lost to private and pirate radio stations, that followed American
rather than BBC doctrine for oral language, and envy led to
emulation . . .
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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
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Nick
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:05 pm
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Don Phillipson wrote:
| Quote: | "Nick" <pacifico@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:1126861981.052762.255940@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Once upon a time, there was a thing called 'BBC English', but, sadly,
standards have dropped! :-(
Not really. BBC English when defined as oral norms (by a
committee including G.B. Shaw and other notables) prescribed
accent as well as grammar, and chose the middle-class
accent of southeast England. The BBC changed its policy
in the 1960s (possibly influenced by a Harold Wilson government)
to permit (1) regional accents in national i.e. non-regional
programming, (2) much less reliance on scripts vetted in
advance, thus much more extempore improvisation at the
microphone. Without any overt policy decision, the BBC
was then influenced by the desire to recapture audiences
lost to private and pirate radio stations, that followed American
rather than BBC doctrine for oral language, and envy led to
emulation . . .
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I can't argue with your comprehensive answer, but thanks. :-)
I'm probably thinking of 'received pronounciation', though.
You could buy Linguaphone records to teach you to speak 'BBC English'
in the 60s - probably the version *before* they changed their policy.
Nick |
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Nick
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:09 pm
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ray o'hara wrote:
| Quote: | rogertidy@yahoo.com
We'll know we have been when BBC announcers say "BirmingHAM" and
"BalHAM".
I live in Massachusetts,
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A *golden* opportunity!
Going OT, the Bee Gees' 'Massachusetts' was, reputedly, a hit
everywhere *except* in Massachusetts!
Is it liked there, please?
Nick |
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Martin Willett
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:46 pm
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Robert Lieblich wrote:
| Quote: | Will wrote:
Nick wrote:
That's the *American* pronounciation!
Once upon a time, there was a thing called 'BBC English', but, sadly,
standards have dropped! :-(
They all say REsearch, and most say sKedule (instead of SHedule), so
you're right - the standards have slipped. I'm waiting for the first
one to say missul, instead of missile.
We are American. You will be assimilated.
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But is resistance footul?
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org |
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ray o'hara
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:32 pm
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"Nick" <pacifico@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:1127120948.515263.40570@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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ray o'hara wrote:
rogertidy@yahoo.com
We'll know we have been when BBC announcers say "BirmingHAM" and
"BalHAM".
I live in Massachusetts,
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A *golden* opportunity!
Going OT, the Bee Gees' 'Massachusetts' was, reputedly, a hit
everywhere *except* in Massachusetts!
Is it liked there, please?
Nick
It did fine here and the radio stations still play it. |
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