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avramico
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| Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:02 am
Post subject: How to Reduce Girlfriend's Upspeak or Uptalk |
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Does anyone have any suggestions on a way to minimize my girlfriend's
upseak? I haven't raised the subject yet, but her uptalk is
distracting and annoying to me. And it makes her seem less smart in my
eyes.
I don't want to make her self-concious. Maybe I could video tape us
together, casually, and play it back, because I think she would realize
how she talks and wish to reduce the uptalk...she made a remark before
about when she hears herself, she sounds ditzy.
A
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Tony Cooper
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| Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:02 am
Post subject: Re: How to Reduce Girlfriend's Upspeak or Uptalk |
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On 11 Sep 2005 20:25:18 -0700, "avramico" <avibee@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Does anyone have any suggestions on a way to minimize my girlfriend's
upseak? I haven't raised the subject yet, but her uptalk is
distracting and annoying to me. And it makes her seem less smart in my
eyes.
I don't want to make her self-concious. Maybe I could video tape us
together, casually, and play it back, because I think she would realize
how she talks and wish to reduce the uptalk...she made a remark before
about when she hears herself, she sounds ditzy.
By all means point out her flaws. Don't pull any punches. |
She'll dump you, and at least one of you will be better off.
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Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL |
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Michael DeBusk
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:23 pm
Post subject: Re: How to Reduce Girlfriend's Upspeak or Uptalk |
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On 11 Sep 2005 20:25:18 -0700, avramico <avibee@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Does anyone have any suggestions on a way to minimize my
girlfriend's upseak?
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The more pleasure you give her in bed, the less she will speak that
way. Remember to take a daily multivitamin and drink plenty of water.
I know, I know, it doesn't make sense. Try it for a couple of months
anyway and notice what happens.
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Michael DeBusk, Co-Conspirator to Make the World a Better Place
Did he update http://home.earthlink.net/~debu4335/ yet?
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Ashok
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:39 pm
Post subject: Re: How to Reduce Girlfriend's Upspeak or Uptalk |
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In article <1126495518.369214.321720@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
avibee@gmail.com says...
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Does anyone have any suggestions on a way to minimize my girlfriend's
upseak? I haven't raised the subject yet, but her uptalk is
distracting and annoying to me. And it makes her seem less smart in my
eyes.
I don't want to make her self-concious. Maybe I could video tape us
together, casually, and play it back, because I think she would realize
how she talks and wish to reduce the uptalk...she made a remark before
about when she hears herself, she sounds ditzy.
A
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What is "uptalk" or "upspeak"?
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Weatherlawyer
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:05 am
Post subject: Re: How to Reduce Girlfriend's Upspeak or Uptalk |
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Ashok wrote:
| Quote: | What is "uptalk" or "upspeak"?
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Troll bait. |
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Robert Lieblich
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:00 am
Post subject: Re: How to Reduce Girlfriend's Upspeak or Uptalk |
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Weatherlawyer wrote:
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Ashok wrote:
What is "uptalk" or "upspeak"?
Troll bait.
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Grow up, ray. Bouncing wisecracks off non-native speakers with honest
inquiries is bullying.
Ashok -- I suggest you consider switching to alt.usage.english (a
different newsgroup with the same topic; don't ask me how that
happened), where you may find a fair amount of the same stupidity as
you do here but also some useful answers.
As for "upspeak," it's the practice of speaking declarative sentences
as if they were questions, with a rising inflection at the end. It's
particularly prevalent amount adolescent girls. Try reading aloud the
two other sentences of this paragraph, or this one for that matter, as
if they ended in question marks rather than periods. Listen to the
result. That's upspeak.
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Bob Lieblich
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Weatherlawyer
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:35 pm
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Robert Lieblich wrote:
| Quote: | Weatherlawyer wrote:
Ashok wrote:
What is "uptalk" or "upspeak"?
Troll bait.
Grow up, ray.
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Ray?
| Quote: | Ashok -- I suggest you consider switching to alt.usage.english (a
different newsgroup with the same topic; don't ask me how that
happened), where you may find a fair amount of the same stupidity as
you do here but also some useful answers.
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Well it is certainly busier there.
| Quote: | Try reading aloud the
two other sentences of this paragraph, or this one for that matter, as
if they ended in question marks rather than periods. Listen to the
result. That's upspeak.
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That's Australasian.
Stop her watching Neighbours. |
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ray o'hara
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:22 pm
Post subject: Re: How to Reduce Girlfriend's Upspeak or Uptalk |
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"Robert Lieblich" <robert.lieblich@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:43277A1F.F2838A3E@verizon.net...
| Quote: | Weatherlawyer wrote:
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Grow up, ray. Bouncing wisecracks off non-native speakers with honest
inquiries is bullying.
--
Bob Lieblich
Just trying to help
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If you are implying weatherlawyer is me then you are sadly mistaken. I have
never posted under anything other than my own name.
I'm beginning to dislike you bob. Your kneejerk holier-than-thou attitude is
arrogance personified. |
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ray o'hara
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:37 pm
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"Robert Lieblich" <robert.lieblich@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:43277A1F.F2838A3E@verizon.net...
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Bob Lieblich
Just trying to help
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Weatherlawyer is someone named Michael McNeil.
A quick search of google groups shows that, |
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Robert Lieblich
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:30 am
Post subject: Re: How to Reduce Girlfriend's Upspeak or Uptalk |
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Weatherlawyer wrote:
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Robert Lieblich wrote:
Weatherlawyer wrote:
Ashok wrote:
What is "uptalk" or "upspeak"?
Troll bait.
Grow up, ray.
Ray?
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All the weather lawyers I know are named Ray, so I extrapolated. I
realized after posting that ray o'hara (should we all chip in and buy
him some capital letters?) might think I was addressing my remarks to
him. My thanks to you for letting you correct any possible
misimpression.
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Ashok -- I suggest you consider switching to alt.usage.english (a
different newsgroup with the same topic; don't ask me how that
happened), where you may find a fair amount of the same stupidity as
you do here but also some useful answers.
Well it is certainly busier there.
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Yes. And it also has a culture that disapproves of baiting people who
ask serious questions. And more than one person who tries to give a
straight answer.
| Quote: | Try reading aloud the
two other sentences of this paragraph, or this one for that matter, as
if they ended in question marks rather than periods. Listen to the
result. That's upspeak.
That's Australasian.
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If you say so. It's also very common among American adolescent girls.
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Stop her watching Neighbours.
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Whatever that means.
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Bob Lieblich
Non-weather lawyer |
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Robert Lieblich
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:36 am
Post subject: Re: How to Reduce Girlfriend's Upspeak or Uptalk |
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ray o'hara wrote:
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"Robert Lieblich" <robert.lieblich@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:43277A1F.F2838A3E@verizon.net...
Weatherlawyer wrote:
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Grow up, ray. Bouncing wisecracks off non-native speakers with honest
inquiries is bullying.
--
Bob Lieblich
Just trying to help
If you are implying weatherlawyer is me then you are sadly mistaken.
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No, ray, I am not so implying. Please see my response to
Weatherlawyer about that.
| Quote: | I have
never posted under anything other than my own name.
I'm beginning to dislike you bob. Your kneejerk holier-than-thou attitude is
arrogance personified.
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It's not kneejerk, ray. It's carefully thought out. If some guy asks
a perfectly straight question on topic for a particular newsgroup and
can't get a single decent answer in a period of more than 24 hours,
then some other guy ought to be allowed to point that out. The
practice of having fun at the expense of the inquirer when no one has
yet helped him is particularly offensive. If so observing makes me
holier-than-thou and arrogant, I plead guilty.
And speaking of being serious, I do try to own up when I'm wrong, and
I was wrong in chiding you rather than Weatherlawyer for the idiotic
remark I bawled you (rather than him) out for (snipped by you, but
perhaps it's just as well). I apologize to you for the mistake.
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Bob Lieblich
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Bob Cunningham
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:52 am
Post subject: Re: How to Reduce Girlfriend's Upspeak or Uptalk |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:30:33 -0400, Robert Lieblich
<robert.lieblich@verizon.net> said:
| Quote: | Weatherlawyer wrote:
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| Quote: | Stop her watching Neighbours.
Whatever that means.
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Doesn't the capitalization of "neighbours" clearly suggest
that it's the name of some performance, like a television
show, that can be watched? With that interpretation, "Stop
her watching Neighbours" seems to mean "Cause her to quit
watching the show 'Neighbours'".
If that is the correct interpretation, the meaning would
have been made clearer by putting "Neighbours" in quotes,
but few posters to alt.usage.english punctuate properly. |
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ray o'hara
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:25 am
Post subject: Re: How to Reduce Girlfriend's Upspeak or Uptalk |
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"Robert Lieblich" <robert.lieblich@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:432889B1.3D1DA73C@verizon.net...
| Quote: | ray o'hara wrote:
"Robert Lieblich" <robert.lieblich@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:43277A1F.F2838A3E@verizon.net...
Weatherlawyer wrote:
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Grow up, ray. Bouncing wisecracks off non-native speakers with honest
inquiries is bullying.
--
Bob Lieblich
Just trying to help
If you are implying weatherlawyer is me then you are sadly mistaken.
No, ray, I am not so implying. Please see my response to
Weatherlawyer about that.
I have
never posted under anything other than my own name.
I'm beginning to dislike you bob. Your kneejerk holier-than-thou
attitude is
arrogance personified.
It's not kneejerk, ray. It's carefully thought out. If some guy asks
a perfectly straight question on topic for a particular newsgroup and
can't get a single decent answer in a period of more than 24 hours,
then some other guy ought to be allowed to point that out. The
practice of having fun at the expense of the inquirer when no one has
yet helped him is particularly offensive. If so observing makes me
holier-than-thou and arrogant, I plead guilty.
And speaking of being serious, I do try to own up when I'm wrong, and
I was wrong in chiding you rather than Weatherlawyer for the idiotic
remark I bawled you (rather than him) out for (snipped by you, but
perhaps it's just as well). I apologize to you for the mistake.
--
Bob Lieblich
Captain Arrogance
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Bob Cunningham
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:00 am
Post subject: Re: How to Reduce Girlfriend's Upspeak or Uptalk |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 03:57:30 GMT, Odysseus
<odysseus1479-at@yahoo-dot.ca> said:
| Quote: | Bob Cunningham wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:30:33 -0400, Robert Lieblich
robert.lieblich@verizon.net> said:
Weatherlawyer wrote:
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Stop her watching Neighbours.
Whatever that means.
Doesn't the capitalization of "neighbours" clearly suggest
that it's the name of some performance, like a television
show, that can be watched? With that interpretation, "Stop
her watching Neighbours" seems to mean "Cause her to quit
watching the show 'Neighbours'".
If that is the correct interpretation, the meaning would
have been made clearer by putting "Neighbours" in quotes,
but few posters to alt.usage.english punctuate properly.
I'd have used _italics_ myself;
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I would, too, if they were available in an ASCII
environment. Absent italics, we're forced to choose between
bracketing underscores and quotation marks. Either of them
would do, but quotation marks seem less likely to distract
the reader's attention. But I think you're right, strictly
speaking the name of a television show should be punctuated
with bracketing underscores in this ASCII environment.
I find it significant that when I type a string with
bracketing underscores in Word, the string is immediately
converted to italics with no delimiters.
| Quote: | I'd use quotation marks for an
episode title. Likewise respectively for albums & songs, periodicals
& articles, or anthologies & stories.
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I use bracketing underscores for book titles and names of
newspapers, but I don't like them. I hope some day the
present limitations will be just a bad memory, but I doubt
that I will live to see that day. |
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Tony Cooper
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:00 am
Post subject: Re: How to Reduce Girlfriend's Upspeak or Uptalk |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:36:01 -0400, Robert Lieblich
<robert.lieblich@verizon.net> wrote:
| Quote: | ray o'hara wrote:
"Robert Lieblich" <robert.lieblich@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:43277A1F.F2838A3E@verizon.net...
Weatherlawyer wrote:
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Grow up, ray. Bouncing wisecracks off non-native speakers with honest
inquiries is bullying.
--
Bob Lieblich
Just trying to help
If you are implying weatherlawyer is me then you are sadly mistaken.
No, ray, I am not so implying. Please see my response to
Weatherlawyer about that.
I have
never posted under anything other than my own name.
I'm beginning to dislike you bob. Your kneejerk holier-than-thou attitude is
arrogance personified.
It's not kneejerk, ray. It's carefully thought out. If some guy asks
a perfectly straight question on topic for a particular newsgroup and
can't get a single decent answer in a period of more than 24 hours,
then some other guy ought to be allowed to point that out. The
practice of having fun at the expense of the inquirer when no one has
yet helped him is particularly offensive. If so observing makes me
holier-than-thou and arrogant, I plead guilty.
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The OP, and the OT, was some guy asking how he could get his
girlfriend to stop using "upspeak", and wondering if he should
videotape a conversation and play it back to her.
Is it your feeling that a question like this should be met with
seriousness? Like Dear Abby meets Dr Ruth meets English Maven?
--
Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL |
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