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neartemis
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:57 am
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Hello, everybody!
I'm new here, but I would like to ask you a question. Right now I'm
reading a book where the word <<jagger>> is used as an adjective for a
man. Can anybody tell me what it means, exactly? Thank you very much.
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Einde O'Callaghan
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:51 am
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neartemis wrote:
| Quote: | Hello, everybody!
I'm new here, but I would like to ask you a question. Right now I'm
reading a book where the word <<jagger>> is used as an adjective for a
man. Can anybody tell me what it means, exactly? Thank you very much.
You should mreally give some context. The only suggestion that I can |
make without context is that it might refer to a man who looks or
behaves like "Mick Jagger".
Regards, Einde O'Callaghan |
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John of Aix
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:31 am
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neartemis wrote:
| Quote: | Hello, everybody!
I'm new here, but I would like to ask you a question. Right now I'm
reading a book where the word <<jagger>> is used as an adjective for a
man. Can anybody tell me what it means, exactly? Thank you very much.
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It can be a thorn or a pointed object, so sharp, which could then be
applied to a man I suppose.
http://english.cmu.edu/pittsburghspeech/alphabetH_O.html
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Peter Duncanson
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:08 am
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On 9 Sep 2005 11:57:19 -0700, "neartemis" <difalcon@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Hello, everybody!
I'm new here, but I would like to ask you a question. Right now I'm
reading a book where the word <<jagger>> is used as an adjective for a
man. Can anybody tell me what it means, exactly? Thank you very much.
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Does this help?
http://machaut.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/WEBSTER.sh?WORD=jagger
Jag"ger (?), n. One who carries about a small load; a peddler
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Peter Duncanson
UK (posting from u.c.l.e) |
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Paul Burke
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| Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:20 pm
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neartemis wrote:
| Quote: | I'm new here, but I would like to ask you a question. Right now I'm
reading a book where the word <<jagger>> is used as an adjective for a
man. Can anybody tell me what it means, exactly? Thank you very much.
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Here in Derbyshire, and in other parts of England, a jagger was the
leader of a train of pack horses. For example,
http://www.smr.herefordshire.gov.uk/guest_authors/packhorses.htm
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Nick Wagg
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| Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:44 pm
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"Paul Burke" <paul@scazon.com> wrote in message
news:3oksouF6bb45U1@individual.net...
| Quote: | neartemis wrote:
I'm new here, but I would like to ask you a question. Right now I'm
reading a book where the word <<jagger>> is used as an adjective for a
man. Can anybody tell me what it means, exactly? Thank you very much.
Here in Derbyshire, and in other parts of England, a jagger was the
leader of a train of pack horses. For example,
http://www.smr.herefordshire.gov.uk/guest_authors/packhorses.htm
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That's the definition I am familiar with.
The jaggers were particularly active in carrying salt from Cheshire
over the Pennines, although they carried lots of other goods too.
Presumably they didn't return to Cheshire empty-handed. |
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PhilV
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| Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:04 pm
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In my part of the world the man who heaved the sacks
of coal off the wagon and into your bunker/cellar was
a "coal-jagger", ie a man who carries loads. When
nobbut a student I once got a summer job in a cattle
food mill. The boss told me 'you will be a jagger'
So the word was in use fairly recently (*)
-- PhilV
(*) OK, about 30 years ago recently
neartemis wrote:
| Quote: | Hello, everybody!
I'm new here, but I would like to ask you a question. Right now I'm
reading a book where the word <<jagger>> is used as an adjective for a
man. Can anybody tell me what it means, exactly? Thank you very much.
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Joe Higman
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:24 am
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"Einde O'Callaghan" wrote > neartemis wrote:
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Hello, everybody!
I'm new here, but I would like to ask you a question. Right now I'm
reading a book where the word <<jagger>> is used as an adjective for a
man. Can anybody tell me what it means, exactly? Thank you very much.
You should mreally give some context. The only suggestion that I can
make without context is that it might refer to a man who looks or
behaves like "Mick Jagger".
Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
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In Cornwall "jagger" means mate or pal - as in the Oggyland song:
I be goin' wi' jagger
I be goin' to Looe
Gar bugger jagger
I be goin' there too
An oggy is a Cornish pasty (normally pronounced paste-ee around here)
Joe Fogey
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Molly Mockford
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:02 pm
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At 23:24:17 on Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Joe Higman <zen79148@zen.co.uk> wrote
in <433875be$0$27022$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>:
| Quote: | In Cornwall "jagger" means mate or pal - as in the Oggyland song:
I be goin' wi' jagger
I be goin' to Looe
Gar bugger jagger
I be goin' there too
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Interesting - I've previously heard "Gar bugger janner", e.g. in the
not-very-polite naval song "Aladdin". Which one is a corruption of the
other? Or are they entirely separate terms?
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Molly Mockford
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin
(My Reply-To address *is* valid, though may not remain so for ever.) |
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Nick Wagg
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:55 pm
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"Joe Higman" <zen79148@zen.co.uk> wrote in message
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An oggy is a Cornish pasty (normally pronounced paste-ee around here)
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S'funny but I've encountered oggies in Wales more often than in
Cornwall. When the late Cyril Tawney referred to the oggy man
in one of his songs I believe that he was talking about Cardiff docks
at the time too.
It must be one of those Celtic Connections that people are always
going on about. |
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Joe Higman
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:20 am
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"And the rain is softly falling and the Oggy man's no more"
"Nick Wagg" <naw@transcendata.com> wrote
| Quote: | S'funny but I've encountered oggies in Wales more often than in
Cornwall. When the late Cyril Tawney referred to the oggy man
in one of his songs I believe that he was talking about Cardiff docks
at the time too.
It must be one of those Celtic Connections that people are always
going on about.
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You may be right - however most people round here think he was referring to
Devonport Docks. Would Cyril (God rest his soul) have landed at Cardiff in
his submarine? |
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Nick Wagg
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:01 pm
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"Joe Higman" <zen79148@zen.co.uk> wrote in message
news:433c7753$0$21365$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
| Quote: | "And the rain is softly falling and the Oggy man's no more"
"Nick Wagg" <naw@transcendata.com> wrote
S'funny but I've encountered oggies in Wales more often than in
Cornwall. When the late Cyril Tawney referred to the oggy man
in one of his songs I believe that he was talking about Cardiff docks
at the time too.
It must be one of those Celtic Connections that people are always
going on about.
You may be right - however most people round here think he was referring
to
Devonport Docks. Would Cyril (God rest his soul) have landed at Cardiff in
his submarine?
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Sorry, I was thinking of "Sally Free & Easy", whose birthplace
is controversial. |
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CV
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:29 pm
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neartemis wrote:
| Quote: | Hello, everybody!
I'm new here, but I would like to ask you a question. Right now I'm
reading a book where the word <<jagger>> is used as an adjective for a
man. Can anybody tell me what it means, exactly? Thank you very much.
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Sounds really odd that it could be used as an adjective.
"He was a jagger man." !!??
It would be interesting if you could you recite a sentence where
it is used that way.
CV |
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