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Daniel G. \"Govende\" McG
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:58 pm    Post subject: Better news server? Reply with quote

Hi, AEU-ers. I have been using for NNTP the Italian server AIOE.org,
a news server that was suggested to me by the AUE poster Skitt but
turned out to be rather unreliable (in particular, it has not been
acknowledging posts made to AUE for some time now). Apparently I
should try to look for a better server. Now you see, I am using a
computer that I do not own (it carries labels on it that say such
things as "Property of Broome Dev Ctr"), and that is why I thought
that I could only use news servers that were free of charge. If I am
to use a server that would cost money, then who will be paying for it?

How do you guys think I should resolve my situation with the NNTP
server?

- Daniel al-Autistiqui
--
Daniel Gerard McGrath: a/k/a "Govende"
I have the developmental disability Autism.

To e-mail me, remove the six upper-case letters at
the beginning of my address.
[This signature is under construction.]

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the Omrud
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Better news server? Reply with quote

Daniel G. "Govende" McGrath spake thusly:

Quote:
Hi, AEU-ers. I have been using for NNTP the Italian server AIOE.org,
a news server that was suggested to me by the AUE poster Skitt but
turned out to be rather unreliable (in particular, it has not been
acknowledging posts made to AUE for some time now). Apparently I
should try to look for a better server. Now you see, I am using a
computer that I do not own (it carries labels on it that say such
things as "Property of Broome Dev Ctr"), and that is why I thought
that I could only use news servers that were free of charge. If I am
to use a server that would cost money, then who will be paying for it?

How do you guys think I should resolve my situation with the NNTP
server?

Daniel, many organisations provide NNTP access free for their staff
and visitors. For example, most universities do this. Also, many
ISPs provide free NNTP services.

Are you dialling up to the Internet, or do you have broadband
provided in the Centre? In either case, the ISP probably has an NNTP
service for its clients. Try to find out the name of the ISP and
then search their web pages for the DNS name of their Usenet server.

If this is not available, then you could sign up for a (very nearly)
free account with teranews, which seems reliable.

http://www.teranews.com/

The "free" account actually costs $3.95 as a one-time setup charge
for registration. There are no binaries available and you are
limited to 50 Mb per day, which is a huge amount for text access. I
have an account with them for use when I am travelling away from home
and I have had no problems. It has the added benefit that you
wouldn't need to change NNTP services if you move to another ISP.

--
David
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replace usenet with the
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ray o'hara
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:57 am    Post subject: Re: Better news server? Reply with quote

"Daniel G. "Govende" McGrath" <AUTISMgovende30@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4pb6h19pgrhjg5hlcg8402ubbdpcis3hq6@4ax.com...
Quote:
Hi, AEU-ers. I have been using for NNTP the Italian server AIOE.org,
a news server that was suggested to me by the AUE poster Skitt but
turned out to be rather unreliable (in particular, it has not been
acknowledging posts made to AUE for some time now). Apparently I
should try to look for a better server. Now you see, I am using a
computer that I do not own (it carries labels on it that say such
things as "Property of Broome Dev Ctr"), and that is why I thought
that I could only use news servers that were free of charge. If I am
to use a server that would cost money, then who will be paying for it?

How do you guys think I should resolve my situation with the NNTP
server?

- Daniel al-Autistiqui
--

use google groups. it is free easy and it carries this group.

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Nick Worley
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Better news server? Reply with quote

"ray o'hara" <roh@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:f7ydnZPrWLJKD47eRVn-vQ@comcast.com...
Quote:

"Daniel G. "Govende" McGrath" <AUTISMgovende30@hotmail.com> wrote in
message
news:4pb6h19pgrhjg5hlcg8402ubbdpcis3hq6@4ax.com...
Hi, AEU-ers. I have been using for NNTP the Italian server AIOE.org,
a news server that was suggested to me by the AUE poster Skitt but
turned out to be rather unreliable (in particular, it has not been
acknowledging posts made to AUE for some time now). Apparently I
should try to look for a better server. Now you see, I am using a
computer that I do not own (it carries labels on it that say such
things as "Property of Broome Dev Ctr"), and that is why I thought
that I could only use news servers that were free of charge. If I am
to use a server that would cost money, then who will be paying for it?

How do you guys think I should resolve my situation with the NNTP
server?

I've been using news.individual.net (http://news.individual.net/) for some
time now & find it very reliable. The posts appear instantly, whereas my
ISP's news server takes a few minutes to display new posts. It used to be
free, but you have to pay for it now. It doesn't cost that much though.
Regards
Nick
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Tony Cooper
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Better news server? Reply with quote

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:45:52 +0100, "Nick Worley"
<spam@cornedbeef.com> wrote:

Quote:
I've been using news.individual.net (http://news.individual.net/) for some
time now & find it very reliable. The posts appear instantly, whereas my
ISP's news server takes a few minutes to display new posts. It used to be
free, but you have to pay for it now. It doesn't cost that much though.

I don't think Daniel's problem is lack of funds to pay for a service.
I think it's that Broome Development Center just doesn't have a system
in place for a user to reimburse the Center for the cost of the
service, and a user can't just order a fee-based service in the
Center's name.




--

Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
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Odysseus
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: Better news server? Reply with quote

Tony Cooper wrote:
Quote:

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:45:52 +0100, "Nick Worley"
spam@cornedbeef.com> wrote:

I've been using news.individual.net (http://news.individual.net/) for some
time now & find it very reliable. The posts appear instantly, whereas my
ISP's news server takes a few minutes to display new posts. It used to be
free, but you have to pay for it now. It doesn't cost that much though.

I don't think Daniel's problem is lack of funds to pay for a service.
I think it's that Broome Development Center just doesn't have a system
in place for a user to reimburse the Center for the cost of the
service, and a user can't just order a fee-based service in the
Center's name.


Surely some of the non-ISP-based news services allow one to set up an
account, using a credit card for payment (directly or through a
service like Paypal), to which one can log in from any system with
basic Internet access? I haven't subscribed to any *paid* services
online, but none of the sites with which I have a membership or
account care what system or ISP I use to access them. Some of them
offer to 'remember' my computer when I log in; I decline because the
systems I use are shared, and I have the browsers set to supply my
passwords automatically.

--
Odysseus
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Tony Cooper
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Better news server? Reply with quote

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 04:52:59 GMT, Odysseus
<odysseus1479-at@yahoo-dot.ca> wrote:

Quote:
Tony Cooper wrote:

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:45:52 +0100, "Nick Worley"
spam@cornedbeef.com> wrote:

I've been using news.individual.net (http://news.individual.net/) for some
time now & find it very reliable. The posts appear instantly, whereas my
ISP's news server takes a few minutes to display new posts. It used to be
free, but you have to pay for it now. It doesn't cost that much though.

I don't think Daniel's problem is lack of funds to pay for a service.
I think it's that Broome Development Center just doesn't have a system
in place for a user to reimburse the Center for the cost of the
service, and a user can't just order a fee-based service in the
Center's name.


Surely some of the non-ISP-based news services allow one to set up an
account, using a credit card for payment (directly or through a
service like Paypal), to which one can log in from any system with
basic Internet access? I haven't subscribed to any *paid* services
online, but none of the sites with which I have a membership or
account care what system or ISP I use to access them. Some of them
offer to 'remember' my computer when I log in; I decline because the
systems I use are shared, and I have the browsers set to supply my
passwords automatically.

Yes, but you are not considering that some places have "rules". Even
though it would work functionally, there's often a person in charge of
the facility who says "We can't do it that way." What that person
really means is "I can't be bothered to figure if we can do it that
way." That's the person who says "You can't log on to a news service
from our computer because there's nothing in the rules that says I can
allow you to."

In a way, I can see their point. The facility doesn't want a person
to log on to a binary group and start down-loading porn on the
facility's computers even though the access to the binary group is by
the individual.


--

Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
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Daniel G. \"Govende\" McG
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Better news server? Reply with quote

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:53:14 GMT, Tony Cooper
<tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote:

Quote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:45:52 +0100, "Nick Worley"
spam@cornedbeef.com> wrote:

I've been using news.individual.net (http://news.individual.net/) for some
time now & find it very reliable. The posts appear instantly, whereas my
ISP's news server takes a few minutes to display new posts. It used to be
free, but you have to pay for it now. It doesn't cost that much though.

I don't think Daniel's problem is lack of funds to pay for a service.

So far, I agree with you.

Quote:
I think it's that Broome Development Center just doesn't have a system
in place for a user to reimburse the Center for the cost of the
service, and a user can't just order a fee-based service in the
Center's name.

No, BDC actually _does_ have a system for a user to reimburse. The
issue is that, if I use a fee-based server, I have to check with the
Computer Services department to understand how the payment process is
done.

I'll add AUE to the list of newsgroups.

- Daniel al-Autistiqui
--
Daniel Gerard McGrath: a/k/a "Govende"
I have the developmental disability Autism.

To e-mail me, remove the six upper-case letters at
the beginning of my address.
[This signature is under construction.]
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Troy Steadman
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Better news server? Reply with quote

Daniel G. "Govende" McGrath wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:53:14 GMT, Tony Cooper
tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote:

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:45:52 +0100, "Nick Worley"
spam@cornedbeef.com> wrote:

I've been using news.individual.net (http://news.individual.net/) for some
time now & find it very reliable. The posts appear instantly, whereas my
ISP's news server takes a few minutes to display new posts. It used to be
free, but you have to pay for it now. It doesn't cost that much though.

I don't think Daniel's problem is lack of funds to pay for a service.

So far, I agree with you.

I think it's that Broome Development Center just doesn't have a system
in place for a user to reimburse the Center for the cost of the
service, and a user can't just order a fee-based service in the
Center's name.

No, BDC actually _does_ have a system for a user to reimburse. The
issue is that, if I use a fee-based server, I have to check with the
Computer Services department to understand how the payment process is
done.

I'll add AUE to the list of newsgroups.

Daniel have you tried the new Google Groups so-called "Beta"? It is
free, instant-ish, and bears no resemblance to the old Google.

Do a search for Google in whatever browser you are using, choose
Groups, then log in with a throw-away Hotmail-type email address, and
that's all you need!

Supports this group (unlike "Mailgate" the Italian server I used to
use) and I would guess everything except binary files.
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Daniel G. \"Govende\" McG
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Better news server? Reply with quote

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:27:55 -0400, "Daniel G. \"Govende\" McGrath"
<AUTISMgovende30@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:53:14 GMT, Tony Cooper
tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote:

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:45:52 +0100, "Nick Worley"
spam@cornedbeef.com> wrote:

I've been using news.individual.net (http://news.individual.net/) for some
time now & find it very reliable. The posts appear instantly, whereas my
ISP's news server takes a few minutes to display new posts. It used to be
free, but you have to pay for it now. It doesn't cost that much though.

I don't think Daniel's problem is lack of funds to pay for a service.

So far, I agree with you.

I think it's that Broome Development Center just doesn't have a system
in place for a user to reimburse the Center for the cost of the
service, and a user can't just order a fee-based service in the
Center's name.

No, BDC actually _does_ have a system for a user to reimburse. The
issue is that, if I use a fee-based server, I have to check with the
Computer Services department to understand how the payment process is
done.

For the latest information: I was speaking yesterday to 4F unit

manager Judy and she said that she needs to set up an appointment for
me in which I can speak to Team E leader Teresa about my situation.
Teresa will be able to determine if I will be allowed to use a
fee-based NNTP server. (My ISP is NetZero, in case some of you didn't
know. And no, I am _not_ going to start using Google Groups this
early!)

Incidentally, the team leader's name is pronounced tuh-RES-uh, rhyming
with "Vanessa". This took me a bit by surprise when she first started
in August 2004, since I originally encountered her name in writing,
and it didn't occur to me that it might be anything other than
tuh-REE-suh.

- Daniel al-Autistiqui
(A resident of Unit 4F of Broome Developmental Center, which belongs
to Team E)
--
Daniel Gerard McGrath: a/k/a "Govende"
I have the developmental disability Autism.

To e-mail me, remove the six upper-case letters at
the beginning of my address.
[This signature is under construction.]
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