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Raf
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:42 pm
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Does intern refer just to students who attend medical schools?
I know the other meaning of intern, the point is: Can a student apart
from medical school be an intern?
I'm not sure, but I think I saw in a movie that a guy who was a student
at a Business school was an intern in a business company.
Was he an intern or trainee?
Thanks
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:58 pm
Post subject: Re: Intern x Trainee |
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Raf wrote:
| Quote: | Does intern refer just to students who attend medical schools?
I know the other meaning of intern, the point is: Can a student apart
from medical school be an intern?
I'm not sure, but I think I saw in a movie that a guy who was a student
at a Business school was an intern in a business company.
Was he an intern or trainee?
Thanks
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Intern, which used to be spelled interne, used to apply only to
final-year medical students who were spending time in hospitals. Other
fields use it now too, though. Used to be, a student got a diploma and
only then got a job, except for medical types, who needed to see some
real disease and interact with real "customers."
At least one U.S. hospital used to call interns "house officers"; it
looks like that's the usual term in the U.K.
Cece |
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Don Phillipson
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:15 am
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"Raf" <gomes.raf@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124732535.064446.37140@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Does intern refer just to students who attend medical schools?
. . .
I'm not sure, but I think I saw in a movie that a guy who was a student
at a Business school was an intern in a business company.
Was he an intern or trainee?
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Many businesses and government offices nowadays call
temporary employees (e.g. students working during their
summer vacations) "Interns." This usage appeals in two
ways. It justifies low pay for the staff (because medical
interns are paid much less than qualified medical staff) and
it promotes the idea that newspapers, marketing officies,
government administration deserve "professional" status
(like hospitals) rather than being merely places of work for money.
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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
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meirman
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:00 am
Post subject: Re: Intern x Trainee |
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In alt.english.usage on 22 Aug 2005 10:58:46 -0700
ceceliaarmstrong@yahoo.com posted:
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Raf wrote:
Does intern refer just to students who attend medical schools?
I know the other meaning of intern, the point is: Can a student apart
from medical school be an intern?
I'm not sure, but I think I saw in a movie that a guy who was a student
at a Business school was an intern in a business company.
Was he an intern or trainee?
Thanks
Intern, which used to be spelled interne, used to apply only to
final-year medical students who were spending time in hospitals. Other
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In the US it refers to graduates of medical school, actual doctors 
.. Usually they take their medical boards in the state they went to
school right after graduation in June, and those who pass, the vast
majority, I think, get their licenses some time in the summer.
They work as interns for one year, unless they don't plan to
specialize. In that case they have to take a two-year internship,
last I looked.
To specialize, a residency takes either 3 or 4 years depending on the
specialty. There may still a field or two with a 2 year residency.
They used to refer to med students who were working during their
vacation quarter, during the last two years, as externs. Haven't
heard that term since my brother was one. The other three quarters of
the last two years, they called them Doctor when they were in front of
the patients.
| Quote: | fields use it now too, though. Used to be, a student got a diploma and
only then got a job, except for medical types, who needed to see some
real disease and interact with real "customers."
At least one U.S. hospital used to call interns "house officers"; it
looks like that's the usual term in the U.K.
Cece
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s/ meirman
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For gosh sakes, when you ask a question, say what sort of English you are asking about.
When you give an answer, say in what part of the world you think your answer is valid.
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Raf
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:28 pm
Post subject: Re: Intern x Trainee |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:31 pm
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Raf wrote:
| Quote: | Does intern refer just to students who attend medical schools?
I know the other meaning of intern, the point is: Can a student apart
from medical school be an intern?
I'm not sure, but I think I saw in a movie that a guy who was a student
at a Business school was an intern in a business company.
Was he an intern or trainee?
Thanks
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Wasn't Clinton's girlfriend at the White House described as an intern?
I imagine that in the US the term can apply to a variety of
professions, not just to medicine. In the UK, however, it appears to be
less popular. We normally speak about people "gaining work experience"
or taking part in "a work experience programme". Trainee is also used,
but it seems to imply that the person concerned has joined the company
as a junior employee and intends to stay there for some time. However,
according to my understanding, interns are merely gaining experience
for a short period and may leave, or resume their studies, after a
short period.
Roger |
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Pat Durkin
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:00 pm
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"Raf" <gomes.raf@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124732535.064446.37140@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Does intern refer just to students who attend medical schools?
I know the other meaning of intern, the point is: Can a student apart
from medical school be an intern?
I'm not sure, but I think I saw in a movie that a guy who was a student
at a Business school was an intern in a business company.
Was he an intern or trainee?
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When I was a high school student in the early 1950s, "practice teachers"
were formally referred to as student interns. Serving an unpaid internship
of one semester was required for Wisconsin certification as a public school
teacher.
Being close to the town where a state teachers' college was located, our
small school system trained as many as 8 interns per semester. "Practice
teaching" was what most people called it, even while I was serving my
internship at a slightly larger town even closer to the college town. There
were six interns in my specialty, social studies, at that school, and at
least as many in each major high school subject: science, math and English.
After observing the master teacher, as I recall, I got 2 or 3 weeks before
the class. I picked up some money, however, when the first Asian flu
struck the faculty, back in Fall of '57, doing substitute teaching. We were
able to commute daily from our student residences.
At some time in the '60s student teachers received a stipend, which was
generous enough to enable them to serve their internship in distant towns
where they had to rent living space. Some schools and specialties, I
understand, required the internship to last for the full senior year,
thereby forcing the student to need more than the "standard" four years to
gain a degree.
I can't recall what medical subprogram my niece was in when she converted to
a Physician's Assistant plan. She got paid quite generously by whatever
hospital she worked in while she was doing 3 or 4 "rotations", which were a
kind of internship. She served these rotations in a widespread selection of
hospitals--two of them in Alaska. She chose the PA program in lieu of the
Nurse Practitioner program in order to save a couple of years of study.
NP's required a Registered Nurse degree (probably that alone meant a full
year after a Bachelor of Science) before acceptance into the NP program.
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Brian Wickham
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Intern x Trainee |
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On 23 Aug 2005 05:31:59 -0700, rogertidy@yahoo.com wrote:
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Trainee is also used,
but it seems to imply that the person concerned has joined the company
as a junior employee and intends to stay there for some time. However,
according to my understanding, interns are merely gaining experience
for a short period and may leave, or resume their studies, after a
short period.
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This is correct in the current US usage.
Colleges have "intern" programs coordinated with many US businesses.
In most cases a junior or senior year student can apply for an unpaid
internship at a company. The student does odd jobs and just gets to
know the people and culture at that place of business. The rewards
are extra credit at their college and the experience gained. Interns
who are well liked and show some talent are usually considered for
jobs when they enter the market.
The college usually requires an evaluation, by someone responsible at
the company, of the student at the end of the internship.
Brian Wickham |
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