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seguso
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:36 am
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Could please someone explain why, when in a London fastfood I ordered a
"beanburger", I was served chicken? This happened twice, so it can't be
a mistake  Thanks
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James Silverton
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:56 am
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seguso wrote on 21 Aug 2005 14:36:34 -0700:
s> Could please someone explain why, when in a London fastfood
s> I ordered a "beanburger", I was served chicken? This
s> happened twice, so it can't be a mistake Thanks
Beats me but a group like rec.travel.europe might be a better
source of information.
James Silverton. |
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Harvey Van Sickle
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:00 am
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On 21 Aug 2005, Arfur Million wrote
| Quote: | "seguso" <maurizio.colucci@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Could please someone explain why, when in a London fastfood I
ordered a "beanburger", I was served chicken? This happened
twice, so it can't be a mistake Thanks
Beanburgers are named after the Austrian hamlet of Beanburg, which
is famous for its chicken.
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Mean old ladies who live there are known as beanbags.
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Cheers, Harvey
Canadian (30 years) and British (23 years)
For e-mail, change harvey.news to harvey.van
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Arfur Million
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:02 am
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"seguso" <maurizio.colucci@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124660194.613866.132290@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Could please someone explain why, when in a London fastfood I ordered a
"beanburger", I was served chicken? This happened twice, so it can't be
a mistake Thanks
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Beanburgers are named after the Austrian hamlet of Beanburg, which is famous
for its chicken.
Regards,
Arfur |
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John Dean
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:29 am
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Arfur Million wrote:
| Quote: | "seguso" <maurizio.colucci@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124660194.613866.132290@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Could please someone explain why, when in a London fastfood I
ordered a "beanburger", I was served chicken? This happened twice,
so it can't be a mistake Thanks
Beanburgers are named after the Austrian hamlet of Beanburg, which is
famous for its chicken.
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Hence the hilarity when JFK announced "Ich bin ein Beanburger"
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John Dean
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John Dean
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:52 am
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seguso wrote:
| Quote: | Could please someone explain why, when in a London fastfood I ordered
a "beanburger", I was served chicken? This happened twice, so it
can't be a mistake Thanks
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What would have been *really* kewl would have been if you had said "Hey,
Dood, this is chicken and I ordered a beanburger" and you had recorded
the reply so we could see whether the restaurant had made a mistake or
misunderstood you or were rebranding their products.
Did you eat it? Why? No? Why not?
You sure it wasn't a record shop and they gave you a sustaining snack
while they went off to find a Led Zeppelin CD?
Are you sure it wasn't a beanburger that just *tasted* like chicken?
Some of them do, apparently. That means some of them contain snake, some
iguana, some witchetty grubs and some human flesh. But even the ones
with pure beans are said to taste like chicken because, well, pretty
much everything does.
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John Dean
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seguso
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:13 am
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John Dean wrote:
| Quote: | seguso wrote:
Could please someone explain why, when in a London fastfood I ordered
a "beanburger", I was served chicken? This happened twice, so it
can't be a mistake Thanks
What would have been *really* kewl would have been if you had said "Hey,
Dood, this is chicken and I ordered a beanburger" and you had recorded
the reply so we could see whether the restaurant had made a mistake or
misunderstood you or were rebranding their products.
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Well, I am not mother tongue, and I was not sure whether "bean" had
another meaning (e.g. baby chicken). I also wasn't 100% sure that
really was chicken, although all my friends believed so, and although
the meal did not have the small "v" in the menu (which means
"vegetarian", and which other items had). At the end I preferred to
stay silent. If I had asked "why is this chicken" and the reply had
been "bean means the baby chicken", I would have looked like an idiot.
That was in a pub, by the way.
But the second time (in a Burger King), the same thing happened: I
ordered a "spicy beanburger", and once again it definitely tasted and
smelled like chicken. Once again, the meal did not have the small "v"
in the menu, whereas the "veggie burger" did. Once again, all my
friends agreed that had to be chicken: it had the same consistency,
colour, smell, and was slightly waterous. So I concluded that "bean"
actually must mean "chicken" in London, and did not ask anything,
because this time I was almost sure of it.
I can't be 100% sure, but I am 99% sure I can tell meat from
vegetables. I usually eat soy sausages (I am vegetarian). Also, the
other burger, the "veggie burger", tasted quite different from meat.
But now, back in Italy, I discovered that "bean" only means, well,
bean. So I asked you, my Lords of the Extreme Knowledge.
| Quote: | Did you eat it? Why? No? Why not?
You sure it wasn't a record shop and they gave you a sustaining snack
while they went off to find a Led Zeppelin CD?
Are you sure it wasn't a beanburger that just *tasted* like chicken?
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I guess I'll never know for sure, but I'd be really surprised if that
was not chicken.
Thanks anyway! |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:00 am
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seguso wrote:
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So I concluded that "bean"
| Quote: | actually must mean "chicken" in London, and did not ask anything,
because this time I was almost sure of it.
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Ah, you've fallen foul of the classic London vernacular trickery. It
used to be Cockney rhyming slang but then we all got wise to that. So
recently Londoners have been swapping various common words around; it's
important to be aware of this when visiting the city.
The ones I've heard are:
- 'bean' actually means 'chicken' (and vice versa)
- 'egg' has changed places with 'eel' (so be careful when ordering
breakfast)
- and, of course, for 'pheasant' read 'peasant'... |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:00 am
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aminorflatf...@yahoo.ca wrote:
| Quote: | [...] Ah, you've fallen foul of the classic London vernacular trickery.
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Sorry, that should be 'fallen fowl', of course. |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:06 pm
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| Quote: | Well, I am not mother tongue, and I was not sure whether "bean" had
another meaning (e.g. baby chicken). I also wasn't 100% sure that
really was chicken, although all my friends believed so, and although
the meal did not have the small "v" in the menu (which means
"vegetarian", and which other items had). At the end I preferred to
stay silent. If I had asked "why is this chicken" and the reply had
been "bean means the baby chicken", I would have looked like an idiot.
That was in a pub, by the way.
But the second time (in a Burger King), the same thing happened: I
ordered a "spicy beanburger", and once again it definitely tasted and
smelled like chicken. Once again, the meal did not have the small "v"
in the menu, whereas the "veggie burger" did. Once again, all my
friends agreed that had to be chicken: it had the same consistency,
colour, smell, and was slightly waterous. So I concluded that "bean"
actually must mean "chicken" in London, and did not ask anything,
because this time I was almost sure of it.
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I don't think there's any linguistic explaination for your
experience. I think either:-
(1) They made a mistake
(2) The Burger was fried in the same fat as many thousands
of it's chicken predecessors or
(3) They've perfected the artificial chicken taste.
I did once have a similar experience with a linguistic
background though. Here in Germany Burger King offers
a vegetarian Burger called a "Country Burger". Last year
I arrived in Zagreb around midnight, desperately hungry
and went to a McDonalds. Forgetting it was Burger King
I was used to, I ordered a "Country Burger". On the first
bite I convinced myself my taste buds were fooling me,
perhaps because I was so hungry...but the second bite
was unmistakeable, the taste of liver and the gritty
feel of bits of cartiledge or gristle between my teeth...
I spat that out pretty quick and ran to wash out my
mouth.
Apparantly what they consider wholesome country folk eat
is more like an offalburger there than a veggieburger.
David |
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seguso
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:26 pm
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Thanks David. But that does not explain the absence of the small "v" in
the menu, in both places. Other meals did have the "v". Maybe that
means "vegan", and the beanburger had dairy products inside? |
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Arfur Million
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:41 pm
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seguso wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks David. But that does not explain the absence of the small "v" in
the menu, in both places. Other meals did have the "v". Maybe that
means "vegan", and the beanburger had dairy products inside?
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I hope you didn't mind the earlier flippant replies - I thought it was
a flippant question.
The absence of the "v", and the taste of chicken, could be explained by
the following piece of information, taken from a vegetarian's review of
Burger King (see http://tinyurl.com/88ruy):
"They [Burger King] sell a spicy beanburger,m but this isn't strictly
vegetarian as it's cooked on the same skillet as the meat burgers."
You would appear to be unfortunate in eating two beanburgers in
separate places that had such a strong taste of chicken. It is several
years since I had a beanburger at BK, at the time I thought it didn't
taste of much except the spice.
Regards,
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Nick Worley
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:24 am
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"seguso" <maurizio.colucci@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124660194.613866.132290@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Could please someone explain why, when in a London fastfood I ordered a
"beanburger", I was served chicken? This happened twice, so it can't be
a mistake Thanks
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Makes no sense to me & I'm English and have lived in London. (But as a rule
of thumb I wouldn't order veggie food from a fast-food place like Mackey D's
or BK, and I say that as a meat-eater).
Maybe the staff misheard you (although how "beanburger" could possibly sound
like "chicken burger" is beyond me).
Maybe they were so bored/underpaid, they couldn't care less and gave you the
nearest burger to hand.
Maybe the sour-faced underpaid minion serving you once had a relationship
with an Italian that ended badly and wanted a minor form of pay-back???
Who knows, it's certainly a weird one though.
Regards
Nick |
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Nick Worley
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:29 am
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"John Dean" <john-dean@frag.lineone.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | seguso wrote:
Could please someone explain why, when in a London fastfood I ordered
a "beanburger", I was served chicken? This happened twice, so it
can't be a mistake Thanks
What would have been *really* kewl would have been if you had said "Hey,
Dood, this is chicken and I ordered a beanburger" and you had recorded
the reply so we could see whether the restaurant had made a mistake or
misunderstood you or were rebranding their products.
Did you eat it? Why? No? Why not?
You sure it wasn't a record shop and they gave you a sustaining snack
while they went off to find a Led Zeppelin CD?
Are you sure it wasn't a beanburger that just *tasted* like chicken?
Some of them do, apparently. That means some of them contain snake, some
iguana, some witchetty grubs and some human flesh. But even the ones
with pure beans are said to taste like chicken because, well, pretty
much everything does.
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LOL, why do so many people say that things they've never eaten before taste
like chicken?
Person 1: "What did the kangaroo taste like?"
Person 2: "Like chicken."
Person 1: "What about the koala?"
Person 2: "Like chicken."
Person 1: "What about the duck-billed platypus?"
Person 2: "Like chicken."
Person 1: "What about the bush chicken?"
Person 2: "Fuck knows, never tasted anything like it before." |
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Nick Worley
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:37 am
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"seguso" <maurizio.colucci@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Thanks David. But that does not explain the absence of the small "v" in
the menu, in both places. Other meals did have the "v". Maybe that
means "vegan", and the beanburger had dairy products inside?
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That's possible, although I've seen menus that distinguish between veggie &
vegan fare, and I don't see why fast food outlets should be any different.
Maybe the beanburger didn't have a "v" next to it because it was an
omission, or maybe they're cooked in animal fat? (like I said, don't buy
veggie food from a fast food place).
Who knows....
My advice, for what it's worth, is to stick to dedicted veggie or vegan
outlets.
Regards
Nick |
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