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| Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:48 pm
Post subject: Re: "toasty" in place of "warm" |
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| Quote: | To me, being warm is a statement of fact, while being toasty is being warm
and comfortable and enjoying it; sort of like the German word
"gemutlichheit".
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Do you feel the word is "cute" in the english sense, so that saying "I
feel toasty" is a bit like saying "I feel all cuddly wuddly". It seems
to me that I have only ever heard girls saying it, or can imagine boys
saying it to their girlfriends and not wanting their mates to hear
(that is not meant to offend, just a observation of perhaps a sociolect
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Simon. |
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ray o'hara
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| Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:53 pm
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<sm_jamieson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Do you feel the word is "cute" in the english sense, so that saying "I
feel toasty" is a bit like saying "I feel all cuddly wuddly". It seems
to me that I have only ever heard girls saying it, or can imagine boys
saying it to their girlfriends and not wanting their mates to hear
(that is not meant to offend, just a observation of perhaps a sociolect
!)
Simon.
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Nope. |
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meirman
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:21 am
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In alt.english.usage on 12 Aug 2005 03:48:43 -0700
sm_jamieson@hotmail.com posted:
| Quote: | To me, being warm is a statement of fact, while being toasty is being warm
and comfortable and enjoying it; sort of like the German word
"gemutlichheit".
Do you feel the word is "cute" in the english sense, so that saying "I
feel toasty" is a bit like saying "I feel all cuddly wuddly". It seems
to me that I have only ever heard girls saying it, or can imagine boys
saying it to their girlfriends and not wanting their mates to hear
(that is not meant to offend, just a observation of perhaps a sociolect
!)
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Probably true. No real male wants to be toasty I think except maybe
in the original meaning of the word. Personally, I think the original
meaning of the word relates to fires in the fireplace, when one is a
little warmer than he would prefer on the side facing the fire. Sort
of like bread has to be quite hot to toast. It has to be hotter than
eating temperature, which is either "hot" or "warm", but not hot
enough to continue turning browner.
s/ meirman
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Pavel314
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:56 am
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<sm_jamieson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | To me, being warm is a statement of fact, while being toasty is being
warm
and comfortable and enjoying it; sort of like the German word
"gemutlichheit".
Do you feel the word is "cute" in the english sense, so that saying "I
feel toasty" is a bit like saying "I feel all cuddly wuddly". It seems
to me that I have only ever heard girls saying it, or can imagine boys
saying it to their girlfriends and not wanting their mates to hear
(that is not meant to offend, just a observation of perhaps a sociolect
!)
Simon.
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Yes, it does seem more like a female description than for male usage. I
can't imagine John Wayne sitting at the campfire proclaiming that he felt
toasty.
Here's another point for discussion. Does being toasty imply that being cold
is a real alternative at that moment? E.G., just sitting in a warm house in
the summer probably wouldn't be described as feeling toasty, while sitting
in front of the fireplace while it's snowing outside would feel toasty. If
you just came in from the wind driven snow, you'd probably feel real toasty
in front of the fireplace.
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meirman
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:27 am
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In alt.english.usage on Fri, 12 Aug 2005 17:56:08 -0400 "Pavel314"
<Pavel314@NOSPAM.comcast.net> posted:
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sm_jamieson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123843723.505407.23140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
To me, being warm is a statement of fact, while being toasty is being
warm
and comfortable and enjoying it; sort of like the German word
"gemutlichheit".
Do you feel the word is "cute" in the english sense, so that saying "I
feel toasty" is a bit like saying "I feel all cuddly wuddly". It seems
to me that I have only ever heard girls saying it, or can imagine boys
saying it to their girlfriends and not wanting their mates to hear
(that is not meant to offend, just a observation of perhaps a sociolect
!)
Simon.
Yes, it does seem more like a female description than for male usage. I
can't imagine John Wayne sitting at the campfire proclaiming that he felt
toasty.
Here's another point for discussion. Does being toasty imply that being cold
is a real alternative at that moment? E.G., just sitting in a warm house in
the summer probably wouldn't be described as feeling toasty, while sitting
in front of the fireplace while it's snowing outside would feel toasty. If
you just came in from the wind driven snow, you'd probably feel real toasty
in front of the fireplace.
Paul
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s/ meirman
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For gosh sakes, when you ask a question, say what sort of English you are asking about.
When you give an answer, say in what part of the world you think your answer is valid.
If you are emailing me please
say if you are posting the same response.
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Indianapolis 7 years | Now in
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:53 pm
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| Quote: | Does being toasty imply that being cold is a real alternative at that moment?
To my mind, yes. I is similar to "cosy", which tends to imply that |
there is
a possibility of un-cosiness (sp ?).
Simon. |
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Pat Durkin
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:01 pm
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<sm_jamieson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Does being toasty imply that being cold is a real alternative at that
moment?
To my mind, yes. I is similar to "cosy", which tends to imply that
there is
a possibility of un-cosiness (sp ?).
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I suppose that when one is toasty, one is able to contemplate an outside
cold, or wind or rain in contrast. I associate toastiness with being held
or wrapped cosily in front of a fire or stove, with an anticipation of
comfort extending into the near future. The idea of a carefree, restful
time is inherent in the feeling. |
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Pavel314
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:00 am
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"Pat Durkin" <durkinpa@nothome.com> wrote in message
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sm_jamieson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124117620.051242.324970@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Does being toasty imply that being cold is a real alternative at that
moment?
To my mind, yes. I is similar to "cosy", which tends to imply that
there is
a possibility of un-cosiness (sp ?).
I suppose that when one is toasty, one is able to contemplate an outside
cold, or wind or rain in contrast. I associate toastiness with being held
or wrapped cosily in front of a fire or stove, with an anticipation of
comfort extending into the near future. The idea of a carefree, restful
time is inherent in the feeling.
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I have been splitting and stacking firewood in 90+ degree heat in hopes of
being toasty in a few months.
Paul |
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Pat Durkin
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:00 am
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"Pavel314" <Pavel314@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Pat Durkin" <durkinpa@nothome.com> wrote in message
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sm_jamieson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Does being toasty imply that being cold is a real alternative at that
moment?
To my mind, yes. I is similar to "cosy", which tends to imply that
there is
a possibility of un-cosiness (sp ?).
I suppose that when one is toasty, one is able to contemplate an outside
cold, or wind or rain in contrast. I associate toastiness with being
held
or wrapped cosily in front of a fire or stove, with an anticipation of
comfort extending into the near future. The idea of a carefree, restful
time is inherent in the feeling.
I have been splitting and stacking firewood in 90+ degree heat in hopes of
being toasty in a few months.
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Wood is a most efficient generator of heat. It warms when you cut the
trees. It warms you when you split the logs. It warms you when you stack
it.* It warms you when you fetch it. It warms you when you burn it, and
once again when you take out the ashes.
All of that, and popcorn and marshmallows and hot chocolate, too.
When you throw it on the sled or truck, and then when you unload the truck,
and stack the logs. |
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