Stephen Hayes
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:23 am
Post subject: Alice Roberts' accent |
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Matti Lamprhey wrote in a message to All:
ML> From: "Matti Lamprhey" <matti@official-totally-reversed.com>
ML> "Stephen Hayes" <Stephen.Hayesp0.f10.n7903.z8@fmlynet.org> wrote...
| Quote: | Areff wrote in a message to All:
Mike Lyle wrote:
_Coast_: rather a good series on BBC TV, taking us round the
fascinations of the British coastline. Among the likable team is a
crimson-haired and silver-nailed anthropologist, Alice Roberts, with
whom I am much taken. I can't identify her accent, which has "oi"
for "I", "beone" for "bone", "w" for terminal "l", and "aat" for
"at", but seems non-rhotic. Where's she from?
Two of those features are present in much British speech I've heard
("w" for terminal l and "oi" for I). However, there seems to be
some denial regarding the prevalence of "oi" for I in ModBrE.
"W" for "l" I know about -- Bristol was sometimes spelt "Bristow", and
was often pronounced like that by natives before the Estuary accent
rolled westwards like the Severn bore.
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ML> Isn't this backwards? Bristow became Bristol because its denizens
ML> changed w's to l's centuries ago, and still do. Areff is talking
ML> about the more recent Estuarine tendency to do the reverse,
ML> triggered by the Sarf Londoner's rather more longstanding practice.
Could be, they all seem to speak Estuary now, though.
ML> And the Severn Bore rolls (north) eastwards, as shown on the
ML> programme Mike started this thread with.
The simile was meant to refer to the rolling, rather than to the direction.
| Quote: | But could you give examples of the "oi" for "i"?
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ML> He appears to have forgotten that he completely cocked that one up,
ML> and is now reduced to Goebbeling it into our subconsciouses.
Well I haven't seen an example yet.
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the Omrud
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:52 am
Post subject: Re: Alice Roberts' accent |
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Mickwick spake thusly:
| Quote: | In alt.usage.english, the Omrud wrote:
Mickwick spake thusly:
For a start, the Web says that he was 'educated in Marlborough'. An 'at'
is surely possible there.
Not necessarily.
Not necessarily possible?
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It's not possible if he was at St Peter's Junior School Marlborough.
Is possible if he was at Marlborough.
| Quote: | There must be tens of thousands who have been
educated in Marlborough, but not at Marlborough:
http://atschool.eduweb.co.uk/stpetjun.wilts/
I, for one, was educated in Bromsgrove, but not at Bromsgrove.
Interestingly, I'm told that I was at school with that John Gator
(same link as Phil Harding), but I don't remember him in any way.
Bromsgrove! Do you know my mate's mate Stinky, by any chance?
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If I did, I wouldn't admit it.
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