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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:56 am
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"K. Edgcombe" <ke10@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | In article <1122568164.921803.20410@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
Troy Steadman <troysteadman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I have two words that I have been carrying around for 40 years without
ever being sure if they exist:
Half a "Hemidemisemiquaver" I was told at school is a
"Lemihemidemisemiquaver" but I've never encountered that prefix.
A 12 sided polygon (they said) is a "Duodecagon".
Were they pulling my leg?
The first is unfamiliar (I am a musician but I don't remember ever having
occasion to talk about one of those).
The second is standard terminology.
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Perhaps duodecagon is derived from a confusion
with "duodecimal" which is a librarians term
for a cataloguing scheme for twelve books. |
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:31 am
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J. J. Lodder filted:
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Your lines are too long.
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| Quote: | You might also be picturing the appropriate Escher print,
(there are several you can think of)
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The one that comes to mind when you mention him is the lizards coming off the
page and crawling over the paperweight...which set me to wondering how many
other artists' work can be described in general terms that ordinary people would
recognize, without describing any specific piece....
"You know the guy I mean: bowler hats, pipes, flaming tubas?"...r |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:56 am
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"Liz" <liz@where.abouts> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "CDB" wrote:
"Troy Steadman" <troysteadman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
Were they pulling my leg?
In the first instance yes, there is no word for half a
hemidemisemiquaver.
A duodecagon is also known as a duodecahedron.
That's a nicer word. Thanks!
Do you know of a word for a 24 sided polygon?
Icositetragon. You also see "icosikaitetragon". I don't know why
one
kappa becomes a "c" and the other doesn't, except that "kai" is a
familiar word, but Google confirms those spellings.
And googolgon is a polygon with a googol sides. :O)
http://july.fixedreference.org/en/20040724/wikipedia/Googolgon
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:11 am
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 20:56:31 -0400, "CDB" <unbellecd@sprint.ca> wrote:
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"Liz" <liz@where.abouts> wrote in message
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"CDB" wrote:
"Troy Steadman" <troysteadman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
Were they pulling my leg?
In the first instance yes, there is no word for half a
hemidemisemiquaver.
A duodecagon is also known as a duodecahedron.
That's a nicer word. Thanks!
Do you know of a word for a 24 sided polygon?
Icositetragon. You also see "icosikaitetragon". I don't know why
one
kappa becomes a "c" and the other doesn't, except that "kai" is a
familiar word, but Google confirms those spellings.
And googolgon is a polygon with a googol sides. :O)
http://july.fixedreference.org/en/20040724/wikipedia/Googolgon
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One thing leads to another; here is something somebody might use to |
quell the opposition:
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Jess Askin
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:36 am
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"R H Draney" <dadoctah@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | J. J. Lodder filted:
Your lines are too long.
Perhaps your screen is too narrow....
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lately)
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You might also be picturing the appropriate Escher print,
(there are several you can think of)
The one that comes to mind when you mention him is the lizards coming off
the
page and crawling over the paperweight...which set me to wondering how
many
other artists' work can be described in general terms that ordinary people
would
recognize, without describing any specific piece....
"You know the guy I mean: bowler hats, pipes, flaming tubas?"...r
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Ballerinas waiting backstage and women drying off after a bath...
Elongated saints who like they've been struck by St. Elmo's fire....
Fuzzy looking waterlilies apparently... it's hard to tell...
The guy who put his canvases on the floor and then squirted stuff and wizzed
on them....
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Jess Askin
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:41 am
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J. J. Lodder
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:44 pm
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R H Draney <dadoctah@spamcop.net> wrote:
| Quote: | J. J. Lodder filted:
Your lines are too long.
Perhaps your screen is too narrow....
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Certainly not.
In the olden days the gods of usenet decreed
that every posting shoulf fit on punched cards.
Hence 80 chars max, preferably 72 to allow for quoting.
| Quote: | The following (since the subject seems to be coming up in every thread lately)
are the settings I can change...line length is not one of them:
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You clearly need something better, with a GNSAP.
| Quote: | You might also be picturing the appropriate Escher print,
(there are several you can think of)
The one that comes to mind when you mention him is the lizards coming off the
page and crawling over the paperweight...
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Or the stellated one, with dragons all over.
| Quote: | which set me to wondering how many other artists' work can be described in
general terms that ordinary people would recognize, without describing any
specific piece....
"You know the guy I mean: bowler hats, pipes, flaming tubas?"...r
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He didn't paint more than one?
Jan |
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J. J. Lodder
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:44 pm
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Mike Lyle <mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | J. J. Lodder wrote:
Troy Steadman <troysteadman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I have two words that I have been carrying around for 40 years
without ever being sure if they exist:
Half a "Hemidemisemiquaver" I was told at school is a
"Lemihemidemisemiquaver" but I've never encountered that prefix.
No, but 'sesqui' is used for half.
One-and-a-half, surely? Hence "sesquipedalian", a word much liked by
at least one of my schoolmasters. We also have "sesquicentenary" and
such-like.
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You are right of course.
I must have been demi-asleep.
| Quote: | A 12 sided polygon (they said) is a "Duodecagon".
Were they pulling my leg?
No, duodecagon is standard usage,
I really don't think so: I'd never heard of it till this thread.
These things are generally kept as Greek as possible, at least in
English.
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You may well be right there too.
It certainly is international scientific/mathematical usage,
but is it English usage?
Perhaps not, which might explain the Oxford's error,
Jan |
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K. Edgcombe
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:42 pm
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In article <5odGe.18625$aY6.8880@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
No Spam <nospam@hormel.org> wrote:
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Perhaps duodecagon is derived from a confusion
with "duodecimal" which is a librarians term
for a cataloguing scheme for twelve books.
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Nice try, but I suspect Mr Dewey of having had more than twelve books.
Duodecimal, of course, is the word for all sorts of things involving twelves,
and shares the prefix with duodecagon, as does decimal with decagon, and
tricycle with triennial.
Katy |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:02 pm
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K. Edgcombe spake thusly:
| Quote: | In article <5odGe.18625$aY6.8880@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
No Spam <nospam@hormel.org> wrote:
Perhaps duodecagon is derived from a confusion
with "duodecimal" which is a librarians term
for a cataloguing scheme for twelve books.
Nice try, but I suspect Mr Dewey of having had more than twelve books.
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Mr Hughie and Mr Louie probably had four books each, just like Mr
Dewey.
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Murray Arnow
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:24 pm
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the Omrud wrote:
| Quote: | K. Edgcombe spake thusly:
No Spam wrote:
Perhaps duodecagon is derived from a confusion
with "duodecimal" which is a librarians term
for a cataloguing scheme for twelve books.
Nice try, but I suspect Mr Dewey of having had more than twelve books.
Mr Hughie and Mr Louie probably had four books each, just like Mr
Dewey.
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I have my doubts; they're not what their quacked-up to be. |
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Evan Kirshenbaum
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:20 pm
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R H Draney <dadoctah@spamcop.net> writes:
| Quote: | K. Edgcombe filted:
In article <1122568164.921803.20410@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
Troy Steadman <troysteadman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Half a "Hemidemisemiquaver" I was told at school is a
"Lemihemidemisemiquaver" but I've never encountered that prefix.
The first is unfamiliar (I am a musician but I don't remember ever
having occasion to talk about one of those).
In one arranging program I used to use, half a hemidemisemiquaver
was a "grace note"....r
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I think I'd really quickly get tired of a program that made me account
for grace notes as taking actual time. Presumably a quarter note that
preceded the grace note would have to be written as a quadruply-dotted
eigth note.
For what it's worth, according
http://www.answers.com/topic/note-value-1
a 128th note is a "quasihemidemisemiquaver". This doesn't appear in
the OED. (They also claim that the earliest use of such a note was in
Beethoven's "Pathetique".)
The Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_notation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_twenty-eighth_note
concurs with "quasihemidemisemiquaver" and also lists "semihemidemi-
semquaver".
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Robert Bannister
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:09 am
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Jess Askin wrote:
| Quote: | Ballerinas waiting backstage and women drying off after a bath...
Elongated saints who like they've been struck by St. Elmo's fire....
Fuzzy looking waterlilies apparently... it's hard to tell...
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Jess Askin
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:54 am
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"Robert Bannister" <robban@it.net.au> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Jess Askin wrote:
Ballerinas waiting backstage and women drying off after a bath...
Elongated saints who like they've been struck by St. Elmo's fire....
Fuzzy looking waterlilies apparently... it's hard to tell...
...these are a few of my favourite things.
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Well -- not necessarily. I prefer
Semi-attractive Tahitian women posed in front of improbably-colored foliage
The same mountain, over and over, framed by scratchy-looking tree branches,
from a guy who apparently only had three colors in his paint box
Or even screaming gorillas dressed as Popes. |
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Charles Riggs
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:20 pm
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 23:54:19 -0500, "Jess Askin" <nemo@nowhere.net>
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Jess sends his posts in batches. I reckon this means he edits them
before letting them fly, as some misguided folks here do.
It shows.
If you don't care enough about your writing to edit it, you ought to
be writing sentences for your dairy, not displaying them for the world
to see.
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