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Troy Steadman
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:29 pm
Post subject: Lemi- = half; Duodeca = 12 |
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I have two words that I have been carrying around for 40 years without
ever being sure if they exist:
Half a "Hemidemisemiquaver" I was told at school is a
"Lemihemidemisemiquaver" but I've never encountered that prefix.
A 12 sided polygon (they said) is a "Duodecagon".
Were they pulling my leg? |
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Peter H.M. Brooks
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:34 pm
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Troy Steadman wrote:
| Quote: | I have two words that I have been carrying around for 40 years without
ever being sure if they exist:
Half a "Hemidemisemiquaver" I was told at school is a
"Lemihemidemisemiquaver" but I've never encountered that prefix.
A 12 sided polygon (they said) is a "Duodecagon".
Were they pulling my leg?
In the first instance yes, there is no word for half a hemidemisemiquaver. |
A duodecagon is also known as a duodecahedron.
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K. Edgcombe
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:48 pm
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In article <1122568164.921803.20410@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
Troy Steadman <troysteadman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | I have two words that I have been carrying around for 40 years without
ever being sure if they exist:
Half a "Hemidemisemiquaver" I was told at school is a
"Lemihemidemisemiquaver" but I've never encountered that prefix.
A 12 sided polygon (they said) is a "Duodecagon".
Were they pulling my leg?
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The first is unfamiliar (I am a musician but I don't remember ever having
occasion to talk about one of those).
The second is standard terminology.
Katy |
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K. Edgcombe
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:49 pm
Post subject: Re: Lemi- = half; Duodeca = 12 |
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In article <dcb1fa$5dk$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>,
Peter H.M. Brooks <peter@new.co.za> wrote:
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A duodecagon is also known as a duodecahedron.
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No. One is two-dimensional, the other three. Same as octagon and
octahedron.
Katy |
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Troy Steadman
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:52 pm
Post subject: Re: Lemi- = half; Duodeca = 12 |
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Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
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Were they pulling my leg?
In the first instance yes, there is no word for half a hemidemisemiquaver.
A duodecagon is also known as a duodecahedron.
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That's a nicer word. Thanks!
Do you know of a word for a 24 sided polygon? |
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Jess Askin
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:00 pm
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"Troy Steadman" <troysteadman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1122568164.921803.20410@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | I have two words that I have been carrying around for 40 years without
ever being sure if they exist:
Half a "Hemidemisemiquaver" I was told at school is a
"Lemihemidemisemiquaver" but I've never encountered that prefix.
A 12 sided polygon (they said) is a "Duodecagon".
Were they pulling my leg?
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"Duodecagon" sounds perfectly reasonable, I vaguely recalling having heard
it used at some time. It would be along the lines of the "duodecimal" system
commonly used in American public libraries.
But "lemihemidemisemiquaver"? NBL -- that would be a 1/128th note, almost
never seen in printed music and certainly not requiring a regular name.
"Lemi-" is perhaps derived from "koonie lemel." |
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CDB
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:10 pm
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"Troy Steadman" <troysteadman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1122569560.718078.214420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
Were they pulling my leg?
In the first instance yes, there is no word for half a
hemidemisemiquaver.
A duodecagon is also known as a duodecahedron.
That's a nicer word. Thanks!
Do you know of a word for a 24 sided polygon?
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Icositetragon. You also see "icosikaitetragon". I don't know why one
kappa becomes a "c" and the other doesn't, except that "kai" is a
familiar word, but Google confirms those spellings. |
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Peter H.M. Brooks
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:22 pm
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K. Edgcombe wrote:
| Quote: | In article <dcb1fa$5dk$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>,
Peter H.M. Brooks <peter@new.co.za> wrote:
A duodecagon is also known as a duodecahedron.
No. One is two-dimensional, the other three. Same as octagon and
octahedron.
A nice idea, but not one supported by the OED. A duodecahedron is, as |
its name explains, duodecahedral, that is twelve-sided. You might be
thinking of an icosidodecahedron which is a solid.
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John Dawkins
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:29 pm
Post subject: Re: Lemi- = half; Duodeca = 12 |
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In article <dcb1fa$5dk$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>,
"Peter H.M. Brooks" <peter@new.co.za> wrote:
| Quote: | A duodecagon is also known as a duodecahedron.
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No. A dodecahedron is a (three dimensional) solid -- a 12-faced prism.
The most familiar of these is probably the regular dodecahedron with 12
pentagonal faces.
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Alan Jones
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:34 pm
Post subject: Re: Lemi- = half; Duodeca = 12 |
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"Peter H.M. Brooks" <peter@new.co.za> wrote in message
news:dcb49e$900$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
| Quote: | K. Edgcombe wrote:
In article <dcb1fa$5dk$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>,
Peter H.M. Brooks <peter@new.co.za> wrote:
A duodecagon is also known as a duodecahedron.
No. One is two-dimensional, the other three. Same as octagon and
octahedron.
A nice idea, but not one supported by the OED. A duodecahedron is, as its
name explains, duodecahedral, that is twelve-sided. You might be thinking
of an icosidodecahedron which is a solid.
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How can that be? The element -hedron means a face, not a side, and the
Greek prefix for 12 is dodeca-, not duodeca-. The NSOED definition for
dodecahedron (it has no duodeca- words at all) is "A **solid** figure or
object with twelve plane faces".
Alan Jones |
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Liz
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:44 pm
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"CDB" wrote:
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"Troy Steadman" <troysteadman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1122569560.718078.214420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
Were they pulling my leg?
In the first instance yes, there is no word for half a
hemidemisemiquaver.
A duodecagon is also known as a duodecahedron.
That's a nicer word. Thanks!
Do you know of a word for a 24 sided polygon?
Icositetragon. You also see "icosikaitetragon". I don't know why one
kappa becomes a "c" and the other doesn't, except that "kai" is a
familiar word, but Google confirms those spellings.
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And googolgon is a polygon with a googol sides. :O)
http://july.fixedreference.org/en/20040724/wikipedia/Googolgon
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viva emoticons. |
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:45 pm
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K. Edgcombe filted:
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In article <1122568164.921803.20410@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
Troy Steadman <troysteadman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Half a "Hemidemisemiquaver" I was told at school is a
"Lemihemidemisemiquaver" but I've never encountered that prefix.
The first is unfamiliar (I am a musician but I don't remember ever having
occasion to talk about one of those).
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In one arranging program I used to use, half a hemidemisemiquaver was a "grace
note"....r |
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Peter H.M. Brooks
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:58 pm
Post subject: Re: Lemi- = half; Duodeca = 12 |
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Troy Steadman wrote:
| Quote: | Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
Were they pulling my leg?
In the first instance yes, there is no word for half a hemidemisemiquaver.
A duodecagon is also known as a duodecahedron.
That's a nicer word. Thanks!
Do you know of a word for a 24 sided polygon?
I don't think that that polygon is named. |
I think that the largest named polygon is the chiliahedron which has a
thousand sides.
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:59 pm
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Alan Jones filted:
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How can that be? The element -hedron means a face, not a side, and the
Greek prefix for 12 is dodeca-, not duodeca-. The NSOED definition for
dodecahedron (it has no duodeca- words at all) is "A **solid** figure or
object with twelve plane faces".
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Most readers of this thread are now picturing, if they're picturing anything at
all, the Euclidean dodecahedron with its twelve pentagonal faces, a favorite for
desk calendars showing one month per face...I went a-googling for an
illustration of the rhombic dodecahedron made of twelve identical lozenges, and
found this:
http://mette.pederson.com/TOFU022401H.jpg
Nice change of pace....r |
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Peter H.M. Brooks
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:00 am
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CDB wrote:
| Quote: | "Troy Steadman" <troysteadman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1122569560.718078.214420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
Were they pulling my leg?
In the first instance yes, there is no word for half a
hemidemisemiquaver.
A duodecagon is also known as a duodecahedron.
That's a nicer word. Thanks!
Do you know of a word for a 24 sided polygon?
Icositetragon. You also see "icosikaitetragon". I don't know why one
kappa becomes a "c" and the other doesn't, except that "kai" is a
familiar word, but Google confirms those spellings.
Yes, that is interesting - the OED doesn't list it, which is odd. |
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