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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:48 am
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"Django Cat" <nospam@please.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | It came out of a thread a while back where a couple of people were
saying this *term* used for categorising and lumping together various
non-western genres wasn't familiar in the US; not that the music was
any more or less known.
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Well, I'd have to disagree. "World Music" is the standard
term for anything non-classical that's not American, Canadian,
or British [1], n US record shops.
[1] Music from the British Isles is not segregated by
country of origin if it's pop or rock; so the Fab Four,
Stones, Led Zep, U2, etc, are with the rest of the rock
fare. However, Irish, Scots, etc., folk music and the
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:57 am
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:02:07 -0700, Evan Kirshenbaum
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| Quote: | Django Cat <nospam@please.com> writes:
I joined San Francisco public library to get net access,
And you didn't stop by? I'm crushed.
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Next time Evan!
| Quote: | other than that I didn't see any easy ways to get online day to day
- about the only Cybercafe I noticed in the three weeks was on Fifth
Avenue, and looked a major tourist rip-off, though there was a good
cheap place on Fisherman's Wharf.
If you hava a laptop, it's reasonably easy to get wireless access.
People in California and Nevada were alarmingly polite drivers by
European standards. Now, I know everybody in the world likes to
believe they live in the ultimate hell-hole of bad driving (I was once
told by a taxi driver in the tiny UK burg of Kettering that it had the
worse traffic on Earth, bar none), but really guys, never a hoot,
nobody cut us up
ObAUE: "cut us off" in AmE.
even in San Francisco, and the only cars that overtook us out of
town were really apologetic about it and took about ten minutes to
pass on a parallel course (in fact on at least one occasion I got
bored and braked to let the bugger pass). Is this politeness
because you fear an armed response to road rage incidents?
Nah. It's actually just politeness. Did you drive in Southern
California, though. It's quite different.
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No. We did set out to drive down the coast intending to get as least
as far as San Luis Obisbo but were thwarted by a landslide near Luia,
so had to go bac North and inland. One of several twartings that led
to us doing things we hadn't planned but that turned out cool.
[snip]
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What's with the currency? What is that peculiar smell paper money
has?
The rag paper, the ink, and the history of having sat in the pockets
of innumerable sweaty people.
By no means unpleasant, sort of musky, or like old books, but it was
there right from picking up $500 in new bills from the Co-op in
Glossop.
And why are dimes smaller than nickels?
Historically, dimes were made of silver and nickels were made of, er,
nickel. Silver being more expensive, the dimes were smaller. And
also smaller than the pennies, made of copper.
Looking at my British coins, the largest appears to be 50p. Next
comes 2p (except that it appears to have exactly the same diameter as
an old half penny). Then, in rapid succession, come 20p, £1, and 1p.
For actual specs:
£5 38.61mm
£2 28.40mm
50p 27.30mm
2p 25.91mm
£1 22.50mm
20p 21.40mm
1p 20.32mm
5p 18.00mm
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Yes, I suppose to be consistent they'd have to relate size to value.
I didn't know we had £5 coins, but I'll take your word for it, as the
government are perpetually pissing around with our currency - my
theory is that it's to give the mint something to do. Britland has
far too many coins; when we lived in Belgium I was impressed they only
had four - something like 5, 10, 20 and 50 centimes, and that was all
you needed. Sadly Euros have millions of bloody coins. There may be
somewhere in the Eurozone where 1 (Euro) Cent will buy you something,
but if there is I've never been there.
So why is there a mint in San Francisco (just by Safeways up the top
of Market). Are there several regional ones round the US?
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Why on Earth are the bills all the same size and colour?
Because "that's the way money looks". They're actually not all quite
the same color anymore, but there's strong resistance to significantly
changing the color, as that makes most Americans think of "play
money". Changing the size would be even harder, unless you went
smaller, as there are a lot of existing cash drawers that expect this
size.
Just how often do people pass $100 when they meant to hand over $10
- especially in the dark in the back of a taxi?
Not very. You get used to looking and do it without really thinking
about it. I don't really think the change in size would be likely to
be a big help to most people.
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Now you've made me think... I never hand over a banknote without
looking at it, and some of the larger denominations are confusable.
It's just about the foreigness of foreign currency I suppose. One of
the first things I do when I visit a new country is try to learn the
change - nothing gives you away as being straight off the boat as much
as standing at the checkout peering at coins trying to work out what
they're worth.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:58 am
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:20:26 +0100, Django Cat <nospam@please.com>
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| Quote: | Beware, very long posting ahead...
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Very enjoyable to read, though.
| Quote: | Turning right against a red light is scary, but seems the thing to do.
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It seems very sensible to me; dunno why we can't do that here (well,
in our case it would be a left turn). US and UK authorities pick on
differnt things they think the average motorist can't do: in the US
you have to stop at a Stop sigh even if you can see empty roads for
miles in all directions, yet you can use your common sense at a red
light; in the UK Stop means slow down and look and be prepared to stop
if the road isn't clear, but you must never go aganst a red light.
When I first drove in America I used to get quite jumpy about cars
approaching on a minor road with the driver clearly not looking to see
whether there were any cars (mine, for instance) on the major road --
until I learnt that they'd stop at the Stop sign, and only then they'd
look.
Overall, though, driving in America is easier than in the UK, IME.
| Quote: | Why on Earth are the
bills all the same size and colour? Just how often do people pass
$100 when they meant to hand over $10 - especially in the dark in the
back of a taxi?
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I've tried this whinge before, but it never seems to cut any ice.
It's not just the danger of mixing up different bills. In the UK I
can look in my wallet and immediately see, to a rough approximation,
how many fivers, tens and twenties I've got in there. In the US (and
in the absence of a wallet with several separate slots, into which I
could painstakingly insert different denominations) I always have to
look though all the notes, to see how many I have of which, because if
there are six notes in there I could have anything from six bucks to a
hundred and twenty. (All right, before someone points this out, not
quite anything, but anything in the possible combinations of ones,
fives, tens and twenties.)
But of course these are minor quibbles. I'm glad you enjoyed it -- at
last.
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Django Cat
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:02 am
Post subject: Re: Money is dirty [was: Re: Visiting Farn parts] |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 15:43:37 GMT, Tony Cooper
<tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 15:32:21 +0100, Django Cat <nospam@please.com
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:58:18 GMT, Bob Cunningham
exw6sxq@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:20:26 +0100, Django Cat
nospam@please.com> said:
[...]
And the toll keepers wear rubber gloves?
Paper money is dirty stuff. My wife, who worked for a few
years in a school business office, found that out when she
had occasion to count a lot of money. I don't think she and
the other workers thought to wear latex gloves, but it
sounds like a good idea.
Yes it does. And there's me thinking it was the threat of terrorist
biological weapons.
Ever since the anthrax scare, our post office sorters wear rubber
gloves. If anthrax can be conveyed by envelopes, I suppose it can be
conveyed by paper money.
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:32:49 +0100, "Laura F. Spira"
<laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | Django Cat wrote:
Never actually saw one. Not only that, we didn't encounter the sort
of huge indoor malls that I know exist, just a few town edge shopping
parks in the boondocks, with maybe a WalMart and an 'everything $1'
shop. Borders and Barnes & Noble are all over the place in the UK -
we must have just not gone where they were in the States.
Borders is everywhere but I have yet to encounter a B&N in the UK - tell
me where!
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Mmm... Borders as you say, but I'm sure I *have* seen B&N... and how
would I know it's a book shop... maybe I'm internalising my new
experience of visiting the US... which would mean I *had* passed at
least one... terrible when your brain starts going....
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[..]
I had the same experience with a hedgehog in England. Never seen one
in the wild before, and I was fascinated. The locals thought me
strange.
You must have been further south than here Tony. One of the things I
miss about being exiled to the North is the sound of asthmatic
snuffling outside the house on summer evenings. Meanwhile my Chinese
students are all agog about squirrels...
We have squirrels aplenty round here but so far this summer not a single
hedgehog. For several summers past, warm evenings have brought out a
whole convention of them. I wonder if the fresh gravel on our driveway
has put them off?
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I've never seen one in 15 years here in Cheshire on the edge of the
Peak District. There must be a cut-off point somewhere...
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:27:46 +0100, Django Cat <nospam@please.com>
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| Quote: | You evidently missed the information that just about any bookstore in
the Borders, Barnes & Noble, etc. chain has free wireless access.
Never actually saw one. Not only that, we didn't encounter the sort
of huge indoor malls that I know exist, just a few town edge shopping
parks in the boondocks, with maybe a WalMart and an 'everything $1'
shop. Borders and Barnes & Noble are all over the place in the UK -
we must have just not gone where they were in the States.
The Borders stores here (in this area) are all free standing and not |
attached to, or even near, malls. The newest Barnes & Noble is in a
mall but with a direct outside entrance. The other Barnes & Nobles
are free standing.
I cannot, of course, tell you the situation in other cities.
| Quote: | But in the states, you run low on fuel, you get off the highway and
buy gas. You need a pee? ... you get off the highway ... and buy gas.
You want a coffee? ... you get off the highway: we were getting the
picture here.
The on-highway rest stops are mostly on interstates and toll roads.
Rest stops with refreshment and facilities on interstates, and gas on
toll roads.
But do they sell charming porcelain figurines?
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I'm in Florida, and if you buy something in one of the Florida rest
stops (they have an official name, but I can't be arsed to look it up)
it will be an ashtray constructed of seashells, a face carved out of a
coconut shell, a tee shirt, one of those snow globes with a palm tree
and beach scene, or something really useful back in the UK like a
device to punch into an orange so you can suck the juice out.
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Then there was a commentator talking about Jed Bush
Jeb, but no matter.
You're kidding! And why do I say so? Because I wasn't actually sure
(in fact I thought it might be Ged), so I Googled to check.
'Jed Bush' brings up 176,000 hits on Google UK and Google.com.
OK, let's try 'Jeb Bush'. Right, 1,180,000. There's a moral to this
somewhere....
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To some of us, "Jeb" and "morals" in the same sentence is laughable.
One of those polls recently found that a huge majority of Floridians
feel that Jeb Bush would be least-likely person in the US they'd want
to see as President. Jeffrey Dahmer, the serial killer and cannibal,
placed second, and he's dead.
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:28:24 GMT, "Pat Durkin" <durkinpa@nothome.com>
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| Quote: | Around Chicago, there used to be "oases", with Fred Harvey restaurants
making bridges across the tollways. There were gas stations available also.
The oases were separate from on- and off-ramp toll gates. But that was in
the '60s. I don't know if any of them exist today.
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These exist today on the Florida Turnpike.
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:57:51 +0100, Django Cat <nospam@please.com>
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Ouch. Let me proof that paragraph:
| Quote: | No. We did set out to drive down the coast intending to get as least
as far as San Luis Obispo but were thwarted by a landslide near Lucia,
so had to go back North and inland. One of several thwartings that led
to us doing things we hadn't planned but that turned out cool.
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Tony Cooper
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:02:07 -0700, Evan Kirshenbaum
<kirshenbaum@hpl.hp.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Why on Earth are the bills all the same size and colour?
Because "that's the way money looks". They're actually not all quite
the same color anymore, but there's strong resistance to significantly
changing the color, as that makes most Americans think of "play
money". Changing the size would be even harder, unless you went
smaller, as there are a lot of existing cash drawers that expect this
size.
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Don't forget that the US bills *have* been down-sized at least once.
I have some of the old "large" bills.
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ray o'hara
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"Django Cat" <nospam@please.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:28:24 GMT, "Pat Durkin" <durkinpa@nothome.com
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"John Dawkins" <artfldodgr@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <2kp1e1ludg5ap9hp6jon62pli1akanr5t9@4ax.com>,
Django Cat <nospam@please.com> wrote:
We had a discussion about Motorway Services a while back. As far as
I
could see, (but just from driving round CA and a bit of Nevada), the
concept doesn't exist, in much the same way that the European concept
of Motorways/Autobahns/Autostrada etc etc as being roads in a special
category of their own doesn't exist in the US (and that came out of
an
AUE discussion about Freeways, Interstates etc referring to different
things in different places in the US).
If I understand the term "motorway services" correctly, such does exist
"back east", on the New York State Thruway and the Pennsylvania
Turnpike, for example.
Around Chicago, there used to be "oases", with Fred Harvey restaurants
making bridges across the tollways. There were gas stations available
also.
The oases were separate from on- and off-ramp toll gates. But that was
in
the '60s. I don't know if any of them exist today. However, most of
the
interstates that I have driven on have "rest stops", which are publicly
supported, usually with toilets, and when near state borders, tourist
information. There is the occasional vending machine for soda or
sandwiches, and dog-walking space, separation for truck v auto parking,
and
tables for picnics. I don't know if there is a rule for spacing the
stops,
but it seems that they occur approximately every 50 or 60 miles. These
are
not fuel stops. The rest stops generally have entrances/exits separate
from
highway intersections, if only to enable local traffic to run
unencumbered
by heavy seasonal intercity traffic. (Not that some locals wouldn't like
the
trade, but satisfying that desire would get very expensive.)
Those exist in Germany, but not in the UK, which is a shame, because
they're eminently sensble, but obviously don't offer the money
extracting possiblities of the full indoor version.
We stopped at one of these stops on US6, late in the evening and
having failed to find a room in Lone Pine, Independence and Big Pine,
and wondering whether to try and kip in the car. There seemed to be
an awful lot of tall thin guys strolling around, including one bloke
in a powder-blue full western kit, stetson and mirror shades.
Speculating that it might be the local meeting place for gentlemen of
a certain persuasion, we pressed on and thankfully got the last room
going in Bishop.
DC
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You made a correct choice"rest area rangers" have caused the closure of
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Django Cat wrote:
| Quote: | So why is there a mint in San Francisco (just by Safeways up the top
of Market). Are there several regional ones round the US?
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The Headquarters are in Washington, but the mints are in San Francisco,
Denver, Philadelphia, and West Point.
http://www.usmint.gov/about_the_mint/
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Wood Avens wrote:
| Quote: | Django Cat wrote:
Turning right against a red light is scary, but seems the thing to
do.
It seems very sensible to me; dunno why we can't do that here (well,
in our case it would be a left turn). US and UK authorities pick on
differnt things they think the average motorist can't do: in the US
you have to stop at a Stop sigh even if you can see empty roads for
miles in all directions, yet you can use your common sense at a red
light;
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After coming to a full stop (something not everyone does).
| Quote: | in the UK Stop means slow down and look and be prepared to stop
if the road isn't clear,
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That's what a "Yield" sign is for in the US.
| Quote: | but you must never go aganst a red light.
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ray o'hara
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"Django Cat" > >
| Quote: | And why are dimes smaller than nickels?
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So we can tell them apart. Shrewd little kids can rip off their friends by
pointing out the sizes and then being a good sport and trading with them.
| Quote: | Historically, dimes were made of silver and nickels were made of, er,
nickel. Silver being more expensive, the dimes were smaller. And
also smaller than the pennies, made of copper.
Looking at my British coins, the largest appears to be 50p. Next
comes 2p (except that it appears to have exactly the same diameter as
an old half penny). Then, in rapid succession, come 20p, £1, and 1p.
For actual specs:
£5 38.61mm
£2 28.40mm
50p 27.30mm
2p 25.91mm
£1 22.50mm
20p 21.40mm
1p 20.32mm
5p 18.00mm
Yes, I suppose to be consistent they'd have to relate size to value.
I didn't know we had £5 coins, but I'll take your word for it, as the
government are perpetually pissing around with our currency - my
theory is that it's to give the mint something to do. Britland has
far too many coins; when we lived in Belgium I was impressed they only
had four - something like 5, 10, 20 and 50 centimes, and that was all
you needed. Sadly Euros have millions of bloody coins. There may be
somewhere in the Eurozone where 1 (Euro) Cent will buy you something,
but if there is I've never been there.
So why is there a mint in San Francisco (just by Safeways up the top
of Market). Are there several regional ones round the US?
Why on Earth are the bills all the same size and colour?
Because "that's the way money looks". They're actually not all quite
the same color anymore, but there's strong resistance to significantly
changing the color, as that makes most Americans think of "play
money". Changing the size would be even harder, unless you went
smaller, as there are a lot of existing cash drawers that expect this
size.
Just how often do people pass $100 when they meant to hand over $10
- especially in the dark in the back of a taxi?
Not very. You get used to looking and do it without really thinking
about it. I don't really think the change in size would be likely to
be a big help to most people.
Now you've made me think... I never hand over a banknote without
looking at it, and some of the larger denominations are confusable.
It's just about the foreigness of foreign currency I suppose. One of
the first things I do when I visit a new country is try to learn the
change - nothing gives you away as being straight off the boat as much
as standing at the checkout peering at coins trying to work out what
they're worth.
DC
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We refer to multi-colored Euro and Canadian money as Monopoly money.
When the Treasury Departmentr edesigned U.S. currency a few years back they
wanted to make it differentl colors for different demoninations. The
ensuing public outcry put the kibosh on that plan. We love our"greenbacks"
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:10:49 GMT, Tony Cooper
<tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:27:46 +0100, Django Cat <nospam@please.com
wrote:
You evidently missed the information that just about any bookstore in
the Borders, Barnes & Noble, etc. chain has free wireless access.
Never actually saw one. Not only that, we didn't encounter the sort
of huge indoor malls that I know exist, just a few town edge shopping
parks in the boondocks, with maybe a WalMart and an 'everything $1'
shop. Borders and Barnes & Noble are all over the place in the UK -
we must have just not gone where they were in the States.
The Borders stores here (in this area) are all free standing and not
attached to, or even near, malls. The newest Barnes & Noble is in a
mall but with a direct outside entrance. The other Barnes & Nobles
are free standing.
I cannot, of course, tell you the situation in other cities.
But in the states, you run low on fuel, you get off the highway and
buy gas. You need a pee? ... you get off the highway ... and buy gas.
You want a coffee? ... you get off the highway: we were getting the
picture here.
The on-highway rest stops are mostly on interstates and toll roads.
Rest stops with refreshment and facilities on interstates, and gas on
toll roads.
But do they sell charming porcelain figurines?
I'm in Florida, and if you buy something in one of the Florida rest
stops (they have an official name, but I can't be arsed to look it up)
it will be an ashtray constructed of seashells, a face carved out of a
coconut shell, a tee shirt, one of those snow globes with a palm tree
and beach scene, or something really useful back in the UK like a
device to punch into an orange so you can suck the juice out.
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That's the sort of place!
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Then there was a commentator talking about Jed Bush
Jeb, but no matter.
You're kidding! And why do I say so? Because I wasn't actually sure
(in fact I thought it might be Ged), so I Googled to check.
'Jed Bush' brings up 176,000 hits on Google UK and Google.com.
OK, let's try 'Jeb Bush'. Right, 1,180,000. There's a moral to this
somewhere....
To some of us, "Jeb" and "morals" in the same sentence is laughable.
One of those polls recently found that a huge majority of Floridians
feel that Jeb Bush would be least-likely person in the US they'd want
to see as President. Jeffrey Dahmer, the serial killer and cannibal,
placed second, and he's dead.
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:58:20 +0100, Wood Avens
<woodavens@askjennison.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:20:26 +0100, Django Cat <nospam@please.com
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Beware, very long posting ahead...
Very enjoyable to read, though.
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Thanks Katy.
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Turning right against a red light is scary, but seems the thing to do.
It seems very sensible to me; dunno why we can't do that here (well,
in our case it would be a left turn). US and UK authorities pick on
differnt things they think the average motorist can't do: in the US
you have to stop at a Stop sigh even if you can see empty roads for
miles in all directions, yet you can use your common sense at a red
light; in the UK Stop means slow down and look and be prepared to stop
if the road isn't clear, but you must never go aganst a red light.
When I first drove in America I used to get quite jumpy about cars
approaching on a minor road with the driver clearly not looking to see
whether there were any cars (mine, for instance) on the major road --
until I learnt that they'd stop at the Stop sign, and only then they'd
look.
Overall, though, driving in America is easier than in the UK, IME.
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I thought so, and I found automatic made a lot of sense on those long
straights (I wouldn't give up my stick shift here though) and cruise
control was brilliant. Mind you, the romance of the wide open
straight road is a tad eclipsed by the sore bum of hours spent driving
to get anywhere.
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Why on Earth are the
bills all the same size and colour? Just how often do people pass
$100 when they meant to hand over $10 - especially in the dark in the
back of a taxi?
I've tried this whinge before, but it never seems to cut any ice.
It's not just the danger of mixing up different bills. In the UK I
can look in my wallet and immediately see, to a rough approximation,
how many fivers, tens and twenties I've got in there. In the US (and
in the absence of a wallet with several separate slots, into which I
could painstakingly insert different denominations) I always have to
look though all the notes, to see how many I have of which, because if
there are six notes in there I could have anything from six bucks to a
hundred and twenty. (All right, before someone points this out, not
quite anything, but anything in the possible combinations of ones,
fives, tens and twenties.)
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Chaque a son gout I suppose.
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But of course these are minor quibbles. I'm glad you enjoyed it -- at
last.
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