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Isabelle Hamey
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:49 am    Post subject: Don't give up Reply with quote

How do you understand this song?

Is it a love song between two lovers ? Or just a hymn (to
those who emigrated) to America?

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Dave Fawthrop
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't give up Reply with quote

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:49:56 +0200, Isabelle Hamey <hamey@alussinan.org>
wrote:

| How do you understand this song?
|
| Is it a love song between two lovers ? Or just a hymn (to
| those who emigrated) to America?

Never heard it URL please.

--
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Store the word "ICE" in your mobile phone address book, and
against it enter the number of the person you would want to be
contacted "In Case of Emergency". http://tinyurl.com/79lz9
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Isabelle Hamey
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't give up Reply with quote

Dave Fawthrop a écrit :
Quote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:49:56 +0200, Isabelle Hamey <hamey@alussinan.org
wrote:

| How do you understand this song?

| Is it a love song between two lovers ? Or just a hymn (to
| those who emigrated) to America?

Never heard it URL please.

Here you are:

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=247D3Z8QQI43Y0POC7F2FK7NR5

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Nick Wagg
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't give up Reply with quote

"Isabelle Hamey" <hamey@alussinan.org> wrote in message
news:42dc15f4$0$3147$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
Quote:
How do you understand this song?

Is it a love song between two lovers ? Or just a hymn (to
those who emigrated) to America?

Eh. It's got nothing to do with America.
Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush are British.

I heard it first when I was unemployed so the words
"For every job so many men" were particularly poignant
so I have always interpreted it as a song about a man who
is downhearted at losing his job or his business failing,
perhaps during a recession, and his wife/lover's response.
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Einde O'Callaghan
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't give up Reply with quote

Isabelle Hamey wrote:

Quote:
Dave Fawthrop a écrit :

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:49:56 +0200, Isabelle Hamey <hamey@alussinan.org
wrote:


| How do you understand this song?


| Is it a love song between two lovers ? Or just a hymn (to | those
who emigrated) to America?


Never heard it URL please.


Here you are:

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=247D3Z8QQI43Y0POC7F2FK7NR5

It's no longer there.


Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
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Isabelle Hamey
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't give up Reply with quote

Einde O'Callaghan a écrit :

Quote:
Here you are:

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=247D3Z8QQI43Y0POC7F2FK7NR5

It's no longer there.

Are you sure?

> Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
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Einde O'Callaghan
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't give up Reply with quote

Isabelle Hamey wrote:

Quote:
Einde O'Callaghan a écrit :

Here you are:


http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=247D3Z8QQI43Y0POC7F2FK7NR5


It's no longer there.


Are you sure?

When I clicked last time I got an expiry notice, but this time it worked.


Regards, einde O'callaghan
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Isabelle Hamey
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't give up Reply with quote

Nick Wagg a écrit :
Quote:
"Isabelle Hamey" <hamey@alussinan.org> wrote in message
news:42dc15f4$0$3147$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...

How do you understand this song?

Is it a love song between two lovers ? Or just a hymn (to
those who emigrated) to America?


Eh. It's got nothing to do with America.
Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush are British.

I heard it first when I was unemployed so the words
"For every job so many men" were particularly poignant
so I have always interpreted it as a song about a man who
is downhearted at losing his job or his business failing,
perhaps during a recession, and his wife/lover's response.

That's how I interpreted the song as well. But a friend of
mine has always pretended it had something to do with
America. Beautiful song anyhow.
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John of Aix
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't give up Reply with quote

Isabelle Hamey wrote:
Quote:
How do you understand this song?

I don't, I turn it off like all these pseudo-romantic duos that bore the
pants of anyone with sense.
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Rob Poole
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't give up Reply with quote

In article <42dccbbe$0$1222$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr>, Isabelle Hamey says...
Quote:
Nick Wagg a écrit :
"Isabelle Hamey" <hamey@alussinan.org> wrote in message
news:42dc15f4$0$3147$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...

How do you understand this song?

Is it a love song between two lovers ? Or just a hymn (to
those who emigrated) to America?


Eh. It's got nothing to do with America.
Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush are British.

I heard it first when I was unemployed so the words
"For every job so many men" were particularly poignant
so I have always interpreted it as a song about a man who
is downhearted at losing his job or his business failing,
perhaps during a recession, and his wife/lover's response.

That's how I interpreted the song as well. But a friend of
mine has always pretended it had something to do with
America. Beautiful song anyhow.

From <URL:http://www.deltaforce.net/~jnu/pg/interviews/mus86.html>

'MUSICIAN: Tell me about your duet with Kate Bush on "Don't
Give Up".

GABRIEL: I started off on that song singing both parts
myself, but I thought it would work better with a man
and a woman singing, so I changed the lyrics around. At
one point I tried to work it up in a gospel/country style,
and there are still echoes of that approach in Richard
Tee's piano-playing.

MUSICIAN: As in many of the songs on the album, the lyrics
can be interpreted either personally or more abstractly.
Was that deliberate?

GABRIEL: Yes, it was conscious. I was trying to put a
persoanl slant against another backdrop. In "Don't Give
Up" the lyrics were inspired by two things: one was a TV
program on how unemployment has affected family life, and
the other was a photograph taken by Dorothea Lange during
the Dust Bowl Depression. The basic idea is that handling
failure is one of the hardest things we have to learn to
do.'

Rob.

--
Rob Poole, Computer Technician, ESM, Aston Uni
R.H.Poole@aston.ac.uk <http://www.aston.ac.uk/~poolerh>
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Michèle
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't give up Reply with quote

John of Aix a exprimé avec précision :
Quote:
Isabelle Hamey wrote:
How do you understand this song?

I don't, I turn it off like all these pseudo-romantic duos that bore the
pants of anyone with sense.

??
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Blue Fogey
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:32 am    Post subject: Re: Don't give up (bored pants) Reply with quote

How does anyone with sense know that his or her pants are bored? Do
they start talking amongst themselves, or fiddling with their pens or
what?

Fogey
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Giles Todd
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:50 am    Post subject: Re: Don't give up Reply with quote

On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:46:45 +0200, "Michèle"
<caillemimienospam@oteryahoo.fr> wrote:

Quote:
John of Aix a exprimé avec précision :
Isabelle Hamey wrote:
How do you understand this song?

I don't, I turn it off like all these pseudo-romantic duos that bore the
pants of anyone with sense.

??

From the context, I think he meant 'duets', but I could be wrong.
It's hard to tell sometimes.

Giles
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Peter Duncanson
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:38 am    Post subject: Re: Don't give up Reply with quote

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 01:50:25 +0200, Giles Todd <g@prullenbak.todd.nu> wrote:

Quote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:46:45 +0200, "Michèle"
caillemimienospam@oteryahoo.fr> wrote:

John of Aix a exprimé avec précision :
Isabelle Hamey wrote:
How do you understand this song?

I don't, I turn it off like all these pseudo-romantic duos that bore the
pants of anyone with sense.

??

From the context, I think he meant 'duets', but I could be wrong.
It's hard to tell sometimes.

Also it I think "off" was meant in place of "of" in "bore the

pants of anyone".

--
Peter Duncanson
UK
(posting from u.c.l.e)
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Isabelle Hamey
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Don't give up Reply with quote

Rob Poole a écrit :

Quote:

From <URL:http://www.deltaforce.net/~jnu/pg/interviews/mus86.html

'MUSICIAN: Tell me about your duet with Kate Bush on "Don't
Give Up".


Thanks for the link.
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