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Rifleman
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| Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:05 pm
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What does 'ride the niddle' in the following paragraph mean?
"You can only ride the niddle once - that's how they do it there, strapped
to a gurney by lethal injection."
Need more context? Thanks.
Rifleman
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Michael DeBusk
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| Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:44 pm
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It's "ride the needle".
Lethal injection is a method of execution. The fellow is given an
injection ("needle") of a "cocktail" of three different poisons.
"Ride the needle" is *probably* an adaptation of "ride the lightning",
which is a euphamism for execution in the electric chair. Having seen
videotape of an execution by electrocution, I can tell you that it
looks a great deal like the guy is riding something that doesn't want
to be ridden and is trying to throw him off. It probably put people in
mind of the image of a cowboy riding a wild horse or bull.
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Michael DeBusk, Co-Conspirator to Make the World a Better Place
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Martin Ambuhl
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 2:35 am
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Rifleman wrote:
| Quote: | What does 'ride the niddle' in the following paragraph mean?
"You can only ride the niddle once - that's how they do it there, strapped
to a gurney by lethal injection."
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"Niddle" should be "needle," the tool used to kill by lethal injection.
If those needling have done it successfully, then it is possible to
ride the needle more than once, but without knowledge of the second and
successive trips.
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Alan OBrien
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 3:12 am
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"Martin Ambuhl" <mambuhl@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:2qubpnF14acmmU1@uni-berlin.de...
| Quote: | Rifleman wrote:
What does 'ride the niddle' in the following paragraph mean?
"You can only ride the niddle once - that's how they do it there,
strapped
to a gurney by lethal injection."
"Niddle" should be "needle," the tool used to kill by lethal injection. If
those needling have done it successfully, then it is possible to ride the
needle more than once, but without knowledge of the second and successive
trips.
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Why does Texas waste money on sterilised needles? They should use old ones. |
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Rifleman
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 3:28 am
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"Alan OBrien" <alaneobrienSPAM@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Martin Ambuhl" <mambuhl@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Rifleman wrote:
What does 'ride the niddle' in the following paragraph mean?
"You can only ride the niddle once - that's how they do it there,
strapped
to a gurney by lethal injection."
"Niddle" should be "needle," the tool used to kill by lethal injection.
If
those needling have done it successfully, then it is possible to ride
the
needle more than once, but without knowledge of the second and
successive
trips.
Why does Texas waste money on sterilised needles? They should use old
ones.
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I thought it too hard and you just gave me a good clue. The situation is
related to a conversation about a death penalty and I just didn't notice
that. Thanks.
Rifleman |
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don groves
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:21 am
Post subject: Re: ride the niddle ? |
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In article <8ln2d.9226$hZ3.4737@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
alaneobrienSPAM@blueyonder.co.uk wrote...
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"Martin Ambuhl" <mambuhl@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:2qubpnF14acmmU1@uni-berlin.de...
Rifleman wrote:
What does 'ride the niddle' in the following paragraph mean?
"You can only ride the niddle once - that's how they do it there,
strapped
to a gurney by lethal injection."
"Niddle" should be "needle," the tool used to kill by lethal injection. If
those needling have done it successfully, then it is possible to ride the
needle more than once, but without knowledge of the second and successive
trips.
Why does Texas waste money on sterilised needles? They should use old ones.
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The Bush family owns a needle factory?
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dg (domain=ccwebster) |
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Michael DeBusk
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:21 pm
Post subject: Re: ride the niddle ? |
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:12:36 GMT, Alan OBrien
<alaneobrienSPAM@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | Why does Texas waste money on sterilised needles? They should use
old ones.
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I don't know the real answer, but I'm going to guess.
There's an old principle in radio that you should never, ever use
obscene language in front of a microphone. It doesn't matter if the
microphone is broken, if it's off, or if you cut the wire yourself; you
never use obscenity in front of a microphone.
Last week I was chatting on my cell phone while driving (poor practice,
I know, but if you could see her you'd know I wouldn't ask her to call
back later) and she heard my put on my turn signal as I turned into my
driveway. She was astounded that I'd use a turn signal at three o'clock
in the morning on a deserted road.
A physician or nurse always uses a clean, sharp needle, and always
cleans the injection/IV site, even when they know their patient will be
dead in a matter of minutes.
It has to do with habits. Good, useful habits. Things that we *never*
want to stop and think about whether or not we should do. Things that
we *never* want to accidentally NOT do when we should do them.
--
Michael DeBusk, Co-Conspirator to Make the World a Better Place
Did he update http://home.earthlink.net/~debu4335/ yet? |
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david56
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:39 pm
Post subject: Re: ride the niddle ? |
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Michael DeBusk typed thus:
| Quote: | On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:12:36 GMT, Alan OBrien
alaneobrienSPAM@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Why does Texas waste money on sterilised needles? They should use
old ones.
I don't know the real answer, but I'm going to guess.
There's an old principle in radio that you should never, ever use
obscene language in front of a microphone. It doesn't matter if the
microphone is broken, if it's off, or if you cut the wire yourself; you
never use obscenity in front of a microphone.
Last week I was chatting on my cell phone while driving (poor practice,
I know, but if you could see her you'd know I wouldn't ask her to call
back later) and she heard my put on my turn signal as I turned into my
driveway. She was astounded that I'd use a turn signal at three o'clock
in the morning on a deserted road.
A physician or nurse always uses a clean, sharp needle, and always
cleans the injection/IV site, even when they know their patient will be
dead in a matter of minutes.
It has to do with habits. Good, useful habits. Things that we *never*
want to stop and think about whether or not we should do. Things that
we *never* want to accidentally NOT do when we should do them.
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The UK advanced driving test (a voluntary scheme run by a couple of
organisations, based on the Police Class 1 driving standards) force
one to think about things like turn signals. The Highway Code says
something like "Give signals where this would help other road users".
On the test, you get a minor negative mark for indicating when there
is no reason to do so - having to decide whether or not to signal
forces you to look around properly each time to check whether there
is anybody who needs to know. There is a danger that one comes to
rely on the signal in place of proper observation.
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David
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Tony Cooper
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:56 pm
Post subject: Re: ride the niddle ? |
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 06:21:39 GMT, Michael DeBusk
<m_debusk@despammed.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:12:36 GMT, Alan OBrien
alaneobrienSPAM@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Why does Texas waste money on sterilised needles? They should use
old ones.
I don't know the real answer, but I'm going to guess.
I would think the reason would be for the safety of the person |
handling the needle. Executioners are not a dying breed, but they
don't want to be, either. |
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Christopher Green
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:58 pm
Post subject: Re: ride the niddle ? |
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Michael DeBusk <m_debusk@despammed.com> wrote in message news:<Tnv2d.4240$mb6.1015@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
| Quote: | On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:12:36 GMT, Alan OBrien
alaneobrienSPAM@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Why does Texas waste money on sterilised needles? They should use
old ones.
I don't know the real answer, but I'm going to guess.
There's an old principle in radio that you should never, ever use
obscene language in front of a microphone. It doesn't matter if the
microphone is broken, if it's off, or if you cut the wire yourself; you
never use obscenity in front of a microphone.
Last week I was chatting on my cell phone while driving (poor practice,
I know, but if you could see her you'd know I wouldn't ask her to call
back later) and she heard my put on my turn signal as I turned into my
driveway. She was astounded that I'd use a turn signal at three o'clock
in the morning on a deserted road.
A physician or nurse always uses a clean, sharp needle, and always
cleans the injection/IV site, even when they know their patient will be
dead in a matter of minutes.
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In Texas, physicians and nurses do not perform lethal-injection
executions, although a physician is called in to pronounce death. A
team of volunteers selected from among prison employees performs the
execution. It could not be said that the execution team uses sterile
technique out of force of habit.
One very practical reason for maintaining sterile technique is that
the sentence may be commuted at the last second. (Not that there was a
snowball's chance in Hell of that happening while Empty Hat was
Governor.)
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Michael DeBusk
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| Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 10:51 am
Post subject: Re: ride the niddle ? |
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On 17 Sep 2004 10:58:44 -0700, Christopher Green
<cj.green@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
| Quote: | In Texas, physicians and nurses do not perform lethal-injection
executions, although a physician is called in to pronounce death.
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I was under the impression that a physician did it.
--
Michael DeBusk, Co-Conspirator to Make the World a Better Place
Did he update http://home.earthlink.net/~debu4335/ yet? |
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Christopher Green
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| Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:02 am
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 04:51:11 GMT, Michael DeBusk
<m_debusk@despammed.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On 17 Sep 2004 10:58:44 -0700, Christopher Green
cj.green@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
In Texas, physicians and nurses do not perform lethal-injection
executions, although a physician is called in to pronounce death.
I was under the impression that a physician did it.
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A number of sources describe the procedure. There's a volunteer team
of corrections employees that does it. These people have limited
training, and Texas averages about one botched execution a year.
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Michael DeBusk
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| Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:24 am
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 05:02:23 GMT, Christopher Green <cj.green@att.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Texas averages about one botched execution a year.
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Millions of years of evolution and we *still* don't get killing right.
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Michael DeBusk, Co-Conspirator to Make the World a Better Place
Did he update http://home.earthlink.net/~debu4335/ yet? |
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CB
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| Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 7:04 pm
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"Michael DeBusk" <m_debusk@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:39P2d.5385$n16.382@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
| Quote: | On 17 Sep 2004 10:58:44 -0700, Christopher Green
cj.green@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
In Texas, physicians and nurses do not perform lethal-injection
executions, although a physician is called in to pronounce death.
I was under the impression that a physician did it.
Primum non nocere. CDB |
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Tedfriet
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| Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:42 pm
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Christopher Green wrote:
| Quote: | Michael DeBusk <m_debusk@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:<Tnv2d.4240$mb6.1015@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 21:12:36 GMT, Alan OBrien
alaneobrienSPAM@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Why does Texas waste money on sterilised needles? They should use
old ones.
I don't know the real answer, but I'm going to guess.
There's an old principle in radio that you should never, ever use
obscene language in front of a microphone. It doesn't matter if the
microphone is broken, if it's off, or if you cut the wire yourself;
you never use obscenity in front of a microphone.
Last week I was chatting on my cell phone while driving (poor
practice, I know, but if you could see her you'd know I wouldn't ask
her to call back later) and she heard my put on my turn signal as I
turned into my driveway. She was astounded that I'd use a turn
signal at three o'clock in the morning on a deserted road.
A physician or nurse always uses a clean, sharp needle, and always
cleans the injection/IV site, even when they know their patient will
be dead in a matter of minutes.
In Texas, physicians and nurses do not perform lethal-injection
executions, although a physician is called in to pronounce death. A
team of volunteers selected from among prison employees performs the
execution. It could not be said that the execution team uses sterile
technique out of force of habit.
One very practical reason for maintaining sterile technique is that
the sentence may be commuted at the last second. (Not that there was a
snowball's chance in Hell of that happening while Empty Hat was
Governor.)
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The other day a documentary was shown here on Dutch TV in which a inmate's
sentence was commuted after the first injection and they had to resuscitate
him. Later on he was put to death anyway. Horrible and inhuman IMHO.
--
Cheers
A little learning is a dang'rous thing.;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring;
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
And drinking largely sobers us again.
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