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Colleges and Universities--a short guide for 2004

 
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Yeechang Lee
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 3:12 pm    Post subject: Colleges and Universities--a short guide for 2004 Reply with quote

Now that it's the time of the year schools are sending out acceptance
letters to eager applicants, I think this is a good time to repost a
document of mine that has enlightened many on Usenet.

---------------------------

There are, according to one estimate, 1600 institutions of higher
learning in the United States. Unlike other nations, many of
America's colleges and universities are privately run in addition to
the government-supported schools. Since public schools often have
tuitions far lower than their private counterparts, thus consequently
impacting financial aid, the question of how to tell public and
private schools apart is an important one. For that matter, what's
with the whole "college" vs. "university" thing, anyway? It's all
easy, if you keep some simple principles in mind.

*) A _college_ does not offer degrees beyond the BA/BS level.
Examples: Boston College, Dartmouth College, The College of
William and Mary, Bryn Mawr College

*) A _university_ [1] does offer degrees beyond the BA/BS level. These
typically include law, medicine, and MBA degrees.
Examples: Princeton University, Wesleyan University

*) An _institute_ or a _polytechnic_ offers vocational-technical
degrees in fields like automobile or appliance repair. They may be
public or private (see below).
Examples: Massachusetts Institute of Technology, California
Institute of Technology, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute,
California Polytechnic State University

*) A college or university named after a _city_ is a public school
operated by that city.
Examples: University of Chicago, New York University[2],
Boston College, Princeton University, University of San Diego,
University of San Francisco, Seattle University

*) A college or university named after a _state_ is a public school
operated by that state.
Examples: University of Pennsylvania, University of Southern
California, Connecticut College, Colorado College

*) A college or university named after a _person_ is a private
institution.
Examples: Rutgers University, The College of William and Mary,
Truman State University (MO), Thomas Edison State College
(NJ), Medgar Evers College (NY), LaGuardia Community College
(NY)

I hope this has been instructive and useful.

[1] Leland Stanford Junior University (CA) is currently attempting to
meet US Department of Education guidelines for qualifying as a full
university. This status is expected to be reached as of the 2004-2005
school year.

[2] New York University is operated by the City and the State of New
York in tandem.

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Jim Loats
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Colleges and Universities--a short guide for 2004 Reply with quote

In article <slrnc6njmj.1j6.ylee@pobox.com>,
Yeechang Lee <ylee@pobox.com> wrote:

Quote:
Now that it's the time of the year schools are sending out acceptance
letters to eager applicants, I think this is a good time to repost a
document of mine that has enlightened many on Usenet.

A couple of notes:

Quote:
---------------------------
snippety


Quote:
*) A _university_ [1] does offer degrees beyond the BA/BS level. These
typically include law, medicine, and MBA degrees.
Examples: Princeton University, Wesleyan University

Denison University (where my father taught biology) is a four-year
college with no postgraduate programs.

Quote:
*) A college or university named after a _person_ is a private
institution.
Examples: Rutgers University, The College of William and Mary,
Truman State University (MO), Thomas Edison State College
(NJ), Medgar Evers College (NY), LaGuardia Community College
(NY)

Rutgers is, in fact, "The State University of New Jersey".

Quote:
I hope this has been instructive and useful.

[1] Leland Stanford Junior University (CA) is currently attempting to
meet US Department of Education guidelines for qualifying as a full
university. This status is expected to be reached as of the 2004-2005
school year.

[2] New York University is operated by the City and the State of New
York in tandem.

Jim

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Estron
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Colleges and Universities--a short guide for 2004 Reply with quote

Previously in alt.fan.cecil-adams, Yeechang Lee wrote:

Quote:
*) A college or university named after a _state_ is a public school
operated by that state.

Examples: . . . University of Southern California . . .

Huh?

Quote:
*) A college or university named after a _person_ is a private
institution.
Examples: Rutgers University . . .

What?

Quote:
[1] Leland Stanford Junior University (CA) is currently attempting to
meet US Department of Education guidelines for qualifying as a full
university. This status is expected to be reached as of the 2004-2005
school year.

Excuse me?

Quote:
Date: 1 Apr 2004 08:12:04 GMT

Oh. Never mind.

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David Haardt
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Colleges and Universities--a short guide for 2004 Reply with quote

Yeechang Lee <ylee@pobox.com> wrote:
Quote:
Now that it's the time of the year schools are sending out acceptance
letters to eager applicants, I think this is a good time to repost a
document of mine that has enlightened many on Usenet.

There are so many mistakes in your document that it must be an April
joke. Not a very funny one, though, since it could mislead prospective
students, especially those from overseas. In fact, it's hard to find
correct mentions.

-David Haardt
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dimestore
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 11:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Colleges and Universities--a short guide for 2004 Reply with quote

Quote:
There are so many mistakes in your document that it must be an April
joke.

Not really. I have a degree in TV-VCR repair from MIT.
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Pixel Dent
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 11:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Colleges and Universities--a short guide for 2004 Reply with quote

In article <6bed43cc.0404010758.6fcf5eaa@posting.google.com>,
haardtnet@gmx.at (David Haardt) wrote:

Quote:
Yeechang Lee <ylee@pobox.com> wrote:
Now that it's the time of the year schools are sending out acceptance
letters to eager applicants, I think this is a good time to repost a
document of mine that has enlightened many on Usenet.

There are so many mistakes in your document that it must be an April
joke. Not a very funny one, though, since it could mislead prospective
students, especially those from overseas. In fact, it's hard to find
correct mentions.

-David Haardt

It seems the responses are much funnier than the last few years.
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M C Hamster
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Colleges and Universities--a short guide for 2004 Reply with quote

"dimestore" <dimefudge@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:M2Xac.46344$dt4.41073@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...
Quote:

There are so many mistakes in your document that it must be an April
joke.

Not really. I have a degree in TV-VCR repair from MIT.



And I bet you're DAMNED GOOD at it.

M C Hamster "Big Wheel Keep on Turnin'" -- Creedence Clearwater Revival
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Hatunen
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:55 am    Post subject: Re: Colleges and Universities--a short guide for 2004 Reply with quote

On 1 Apr 2004 07:58:27 -0800, haardtnet@gmx.at (David Haardt)
wrote:

Quote:
Yeechang Lee <ylee@pobox.com> wrote:
Now that it's the time of the year schools are sending out acceptance
letters to eager applicants, I think this is a good time to repost a
document of mine that has enlightened many on Usenet.

There are so many mistakes in your document that it must be an April
joke. Not a very funny one, though, since it could mislead prospective
students, especially those from overseas. In fact, it's hard to find
correct mentions.

It's not the first time it's appeared here and been discussed if
I remember correctly.


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Olivers
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:53 am    Post subject: Re: Colleges and Universities--a short guide for 2004 Reply with quote

Hatunen muttered....

Quote:
On 1 Apr 2004 07:58:27 -0800, haardtnet@gmx.at (David Haardt)
wrote:

Yeechang Lee <ylee@pobox.com> wrote:
Now that it's the time of the year schools are sending out acceptance
letters to eager applicants, I think this is a good time to repost a
document of mine that has enlightened many on Usenet.

There are so many mistakes in your document that it must be an April
joke. Not a very funny one, though, since it could mislead prospective
students, especially those from overseas. In fact, it's hard to find
correct mentions.

It's not the first time it's appeared here and been discussed if
I remember correctly.


Yezz, but still unanswered remains the ancient legend whether the summa
academia, the University of Miami (Florid Land, not Oh Ho) actually ever
offered degrees in Contract Bridge and Basket Weaving (Underwater).

TM "Doctorate of Divinity in Twenty Minutes or less!" Oliver
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rick++
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 4:09 am    Post subject: Re: Colleges and Universities--a short guide for 2004 Reply with quote

Quote:
*) An _institute_ or a _polytechnic_ offers vocational-technical
degrees in fields like automobile or appliance repair. They may be
public or private (see below).
Examples: Massachusetts Institute of Technology, California
Institute of Technology, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute,
California Polytechnic State University

And I still cant fix my car after graduating one of these.
I should sue.
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Edward Tang
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 4:17 am    Post subject: Re: Colleges and Universities--a short guide for 2004 Reply with quote

On 1 Apr 2004 08:12:04 GMT, Yeechang Lee <ylee@pobox.com> wrote:


Quote:
[2] New York University is operated by the City and the State of New
York in tandem.

I swear every year I nearly open my (metaphorical) mouth to correct
this........

- Ed
NYU 'BM 01, 'MPS '03
.........................
http://www.antiexperience.com/edtang/
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Dawn Compton
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: Colleges and Universities--a short guide for 2004 Reply with quote

Quote:
A college or university named after a _city_ is
a public school operated by that city.

This is not always true. I am going to the University of (my city) and
it happens to be a private university.
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KSG
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 9:48 am    Post subject: Re: Colleges and Universities--a short guide for 2004 Reply with quote

Yeechang Lee <ylee@pobox.com> wrote in message news:<slrnc6njmj.1j6.ylee@pobox.com>...
Quote:
Now that it's the time of the year schools are sending out acceptance
letters to eager applicants, I think this is a good time to repost a
document of mine that has enlightened many on Usenet.

---------------------------

There are, according to one estimate, 1600 institutions of higher
learning in the United States. Unlike other nations, many of
America's colleges and universities are privately run in addition to
the government-supported schools. Since public schools often have
tuitions far lower than their private counterparts, thus consequently
impacting financial aid, the question of how to tell public and
private schools apart is an important one. For that matter, what's
with the whole "college" vs. "university" thing, anyway? It's all
easy, if you keep some simple principles in mind.

*) A _college_ does not offer degrees beyond the BA/BS level.
Examples: Boston College, Dartmouth College, The College of
William and Mary, Bryn Mawr College

*) A _university_ [1] does offer degrees beyond the BA/BS level. These
typically include law, medicine, and MBA degrees.
Examples: Princeton University, Wesleyan University

*) An _institute_ or a _polytechnic_ offers vocational-technical
degrees in fields like automobile or appliance repair. They may be
public or private (see below).
Examples: Massachusetts Institute of Technology, California
Institute of Technology, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute,
California Polytechnic State University

*) A college or university named after a _city_ is a public school
operated by that city.
Examples: University of Chicago, New York University[2],
Boston College, Princeton University, University of San Diego,
University of San Francisco, Seattle University

*) A college or university named after a _state_ is a public school
operated by that state.
Examples: University of Pennsylvania, University of Southern
California, Connecticut College, Colorado College

*) A college or university named after a _person_ is a private
institution.
Examples: Rutgers University, The College of William and Mary,
Truman State University (MO), Thomas Edison State College
(NJ), Medgar Evers College (NY), LaGuardia Community College
(NY)

I hope this has been instructive and useful.

[1] Leland Stanford Junior University (CA) is currently attempting to
meet US Department of Education guidelines for qualifying as a full
university. This status is expected to be reached as of the 2004-2005
school year.

[2] New York University is operated by the City and the State of New
York in tandem.

I can set my calendar to this... like clockwork!

KSG
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