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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:08 am
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On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:01:13 +0200, Steve Hayes
<hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 04:59:32 GMT, Jim Lawton <ucan@use.your.initiative> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jul 2005 07:05:24 , "Stephen Hayes"
Stephen.Hayesp0.f10.n7903.z8@fmlynet.org> wrote:
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What the Americans and Essexians call pickup trucks, we call bakkies, what does
thou call them?
Sorry, returning to the OP ... you mean "what doest thou call them?"
Yeah, typo.
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I have always spelled it 'dost', which is non-phonetic in any kind of
English I know of, and is thus in the best traditions of the language. |
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Steve Hayes
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:25 am
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On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 13:56:26 +0100, Robin Bignall <docrobin@ntlworld.com>
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| Quote: | On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:01:13 +0200, Steve Hayes
hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 04:59:32 GMT, Jim Lawton <ucan@use.your.initiative> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jul 2005 07:05:24 , "Stephen Hayes"
Stephen.Hayesp0.f10.n7903.z8@fmlynet.org> wrote:
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What the Americans and Essexians call pickup trucks, we call bakkies, what does
thou call them?
Sorry, returning to the OP ... you mean "what doest thou call them?"
Yeah, typo.
My friend's is something like this
http://www.sosperf.com/images/T3low4.jpg
but much older, has only a single door each side with one bench seat,
and the body is raised much higher above the wheels (special,
strengthened springs?) because it has mainly been used off-road.
He calls it his pickup truck; I'd call it a small lorry.
I've not caught up with such terminology as 'Utes' and 'SUVs'.
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I asked here about SUVs some months ago, and got answers that were fairly
clear. An SUV is a short-arsed station wagon (ie not much room inside) with
plush seats, air conditioning, plush carpetsd, a hi-fi, and you take it to a
reverse car wash (one where they spray the dirt on), because it's never seen
anything more challenging than the parking lot at the local supermarket.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
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Robert Bannister
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:39 am
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Jim Lawton wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 03 Jul 2005 07:05:24 , "Stephen Hayes"
Stephen.Hayesp0.f10.n7903.z8@fmlynet.org> wrote:
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What the Americans and Essexians call pickup trucks, we call bakkies, what does
thou call them?
Sorry, returning to the OP ... you mean "what doest thou call them?"
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"Dost", please. Dost to dost.
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Rob Bannister |
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Robert Bannister
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:41 am
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Robin Bignall wrote:
| Quote: | My friend's is something like this
http://www.sosperf.com/images/T3low4.jpg
but much older, has only a single door each side with one bench seat,
and the body is raised much higher above the wheels (special,
strengthened springs?) because it has mainly been used off-road.
He calls it his pickup truck; I'd call it a small lorry.
I've not caught up with such terminology as 'Utes' and 'SUVs'.
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That would definitely be a (rather small) ute in Oz. There are also 4
wheel drive ones.
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Rob Bannister |
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Jim Lawton
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:18 pm
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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:39:21 +0800, Robert Bannister <robban@it.net.au> wrote:
| Quote: | Jim Lawton wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jul 2005 07:05:24 , "Stephen Hayes"
Stephen.Hayesp0.f10.n7903.z8@fmlynet.org> wrote:
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What the Americans and Essexians call pickup trucks, we call bakkies, what does
thou call them?
Sorry, returning to the OP ... you mean "what doest thou call them?"
"Dost", please. Dost to dost.
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Shakespeare prefers yours but uses mine, quite liberally ...
--
Jim
"a single species has come to dominate ...
reproducing at bacterial levels, almost as an
infectious plague envelops its host"
http://tinyurl.com/c88xs |
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Jim Lawton
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:23 pm
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On Mon, 04 Jul 05 14:23:01 GMT, D.C.Wood@ukc.ac.uk (dcw) wrote:
| Quote: | In article <1120486204.277064.270230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
Raymond S. Wise <mplsray@my-deja.com> wrote:
Steve Hayes wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 04:59:32 GMT, Jim Lawton <ucan@use.your.initiative> wrote:
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Sorry, returning to the OP ... you mean "what doest thou call them?"
Yeah, typo.
I take it that Jim's usage was quite deliberate but it nevertheless was
ungrammatical. While "doest" was indeed a variant used in the second
person singular (and "doeth" in the third person singular), it would
not have been used in the sense in question: Under its entry for "do,"
*The Century Dictionary* ( www.century-dictionary.com ) says "The forms
_doth_ and _dost_ are confined almost entirely to the auxiliary use ;
_doeth_ and _doest_ are never auxiliary."
But the use of "do" as an auxilliary was rarer then (for suitable values
of "then"), so perhaps it should have been "What callest thou them?"
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since my previous agreement with this, I have been perusing Shakespeare, where I
found endless examples of "dost thou" and "doest thou" -
Sonnet 95 :-
"Oh in what sweets doest thou thy sinnes inclose"
--
Jim
"a single species has come to dominate ...
reproducing at bacterial levels, almost as an
infectious plague envelops its host"
http://tinyurl.com/c88xs |
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jerry_friedman@yahoo.com
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:19 pm
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Steve Hayes wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 13:56:26 +0100, Robin Bignall <docrobin@ntlworld.com
wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:01:13 +0200, Steve Hayes
hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 04:59:32 GMT, Jim Lawton <ucan@use.your.initiative> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Jul 2005 07:05:24 , "Stephen Hayes"
Stephen.Hayesp0.f10.n7903.z8@fmlynet.org> wrote:
snip
What the Americans and Essexians call pickup trucks, we call bakkies, what does
thou call them?
Sorry, returning to the OP ... you mean "what doest thou call them?"
Yeah, typo.
My friend's is something like this
http://www.sosperf.com/images/T3low4.jpg
but much older, has only a single door each side with one bench seat,
and the body is raised much higher above the wheels (special,
strengthened springs?) because it has mainly been used off-road.
He calls it his pickup truck; I'd call it a small lorry.
I've not caught up with such terminology as 'Utes' and 'SUVs'.
I asked here about SUVs some months ago, and got answers that were fairly
clear. An SUV is a short-arsed station wagon (ie not much room inside) with
plush seats, air conditioning, plush carpetsd, a hi-fi, and you take it to a
reverse car wash (one where they spray the dirt on), because it's never seen
anything more challenging than the parking lot at the local supermarket.
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All true, but I'd say the defining characteristics are that it has
four-wheel drive and a higher clearance than a typical station wagon.
Not to be driven fast around corners.
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Skitt
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:12 pm
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jerry_friedman@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | Steve Hayes wrote:
Robin Bignall wrote:
Steve Hayes wrote:
Jim Lawton wrote:
"Stephen Hayes" wrote:
What the Americans and Essexians call pickup trucks, we call
bakkies, what does thou call them?
Sorry, returning to the OP ... you mean "what doest thou call
them?"
Yeah, typo.
My friend's is something like this
http://www.sosperf.com/images/T3low4.jpg
but much older, has only a single door each side with one bench
seat, and the body is raised much higher above the wheels (special,
strengthened springs?) because it has mainly been used off-road.
He calls it his pickup truck; I'd call it a small lorry.
I've not caught up with such terminology as 'Utes' and 'SUVs'.
I asked here about SUVs some months ago, and got answers that were
fairly clear. An SUV is a short-arsed station wagon (ie not much
room inside) with plush seats, air conditioning, plush carpetsd, a
hi-fi, and you take it to a reverse car wash (one where they spray
the dirt on), because it's never seen anything more challenging than
the parking lot at the local supermarket.
All true, but I'd say the defining characteristics are that it has
four-wheel drive and a higher clearance than a typical station wagon.
Not to be driven fast around corners.
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True, except for the four-wheel drive characteristic. There are plenty of
two-wheel drive SUVs for those with fewer bucks and no intention to go
off-roading.
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Skitt (in Hayward, California)
www.geocities.com/opus731/ |
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R H Draney
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:53 pm
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jerry_friedman@yahoo.com filted:
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Steve Hayes wrote:
I asked here about SUVs some months ago, and got answers that were fairly
clear. An SUV is a short-arsed station wagon (ie not much room inside) with
plush seats, air conditioning, plush carpetsd, a hi-fi, and you take it to a
reverse car wash (one where they spray the dirt on), because it's never seen
anything more challenging than the parking lot at the local supermarket.
All true, but I'd say the defining characteristics are that it has
four-wheel drive and a higher clearance than a typical station wagon.
Not to be driven fast around corners.
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I would have stopped three words earlier....r |
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Robin Bignall
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:15 am
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On 5 Jul 2005 10:53:28 -0700, R H Draney <dadoctah@spamcop.net> wrote:
| Quote: | jerry_friedman@yahoo.com filted:
Steve Hayes wrote:
I asked here about SUVs some months ago, and got answers that were fairly
clear. An SUV is a short-arsed station wagon (ie not much room inside) with
plush seats, air conditioning, plush carpetsd, a hi-fi, and you take it to a
reverse car wash (one where they spray the dirt on), because it's never seen
anything more challenging than the parking lot at the local supermarket.
All true, but I'd say the defining characteristics are that it has
four-wheel drive and a higher clearance than a typical station wagon.
Not to be driven fast around corners.
I would have stopped three words earlier....r
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You've got better brakes.
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Robin |
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John Holmes
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:44 pm
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jerry_friedman@yahoo.com wrote:
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All true, but I'd say the defining characteristics are that it has
four-wheel drive and a higher clearance than a typical station wagon.
Not to be driven fast around corners.
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Although they are high and unstable, as you say, a lot of them don't
really have much ground clearance at all when you look closely. The
designers raise the body on the springs, but they don't do anything much
about all the exhaust pipes, sumps, diffs, stabilizer bars and whatnot
that stick out underneath. It would be asking for trouble to take many
of them over rough terrain.
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Regards
John
for mail: my initials plus a u e
at tpg dot com dot au |
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