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Robert Bannister
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:36 am
Post subject: Re: Guidance on when nurses are referred to as "sister" |
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Linz wrote:
| Quote: | "Mike Lyle" <mike_lyle_uk@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3ighglFlc0psU1@individual.net...
Except that it fails to explain why shift work somehow has to be
called "internal rotation", which I'd previously have assumed must
have something to do with assisted parturition. Or the feeling I
get when idiots arse about with the language I've been working hard
to learn all my life.
Internal rotation is where you rotate within a job - it could be
shifts, it could be within offices. External rotation is where you go
out to different, possibly unrelated sites.
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I used to have similar feeling about "infrastructure" which I understood
to refer to the internal organisation of staff and resources of a
company. Now, however, it seems to refer to external things like rail
and road links, phone and electricity lines and almost anything that is
not "infra".
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Rob Bannister |
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Steve Hayes
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:08 am
Post subject: Infrastructure |
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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:36:09 +0800, Robert Bannister <robban@it.net.au> wrote:
| Quote: | I used to have similar feeling about "infrastructure" which I understood
to refer to the internal organisation of staff and resources of a
company. Now, however, it seems to refer to external things like rail
and road links, phone and electricity lines and almost anything that is
not "infra".
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I've never known "infrastructure" to refer to the staff and internal resources
of a company.
My 40-year-old COD says "system of airfields, telecommunications, and public
services forming a basis for defence".
You must be *really* ancient to know an earlier meaning, so old as not to be
mentioned in a dictionary published in 1964.
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Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
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Robert Bannister
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:20 am
Post subject: Re: Infrastructure |
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Steve Hayes wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:36:09 +0800, Robert Bannister <robban@it.net.au> wrote:
I used to have similar feeling about "infrastructure" which I understood
to refer to the internal organisation of staff and resources of a
company. Now, however, it seems to refer to external things like rail
and road links, phone and electricity lines and almost anything that is
not "infra".
I've never known "infrastructure" to refer to the staff and internal resources
of a company.
My 40-year-old COD says "system of airfields, telecommunications, and public
services forming a basis for defence".
You must be *really* ancient to know an earlier meaning, so old as not to be
mentioned in a dictionary published in 1964.
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This is from M-W:
1 : the underlying foundation or basic framework (as of a system or
organization)
2 : the permanent installations required for military purposes
3 : the system of public works of a country, state, or region; also :
the resources (as personnel, buildings, or equipment) required for an
activity
The meaning you give, and the meaning as used in the Australian press,
seems only to fit meaning 2 or partly meaning 3.
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Rob Bannister |
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Steve Hayes
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:08 am
Post subject: Re: Infrastructure |
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On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 07:20:23 +0800, Robert Bannister <robban@it.net.au> wrote:
| Quote: | Steve Hayes wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 07:36:09 +0800, Robert Bannister <robban@it.net.au> wrote:
I used to have similar feeling about "infrastructure" which I understood
to refer to the internal organisation of staff and resources of a
company. Now, however, it seems to refer to external things like rail
and road links, phone and electricity lines and almost anything that is
not "infra".
I've never known "infrastructure" to refer to the staff and internal resources
of a company.
My 40-year-old COD says "system of airfields, telecommunications, and public
services forming a basis for defence".
You must be *really* ancient to know an earlier meaning, so old as not to be
mentioned in a dictionary published in 1964.
This is from M-W:
1 : the underlying foundation or basic framework (as of a system or
organization)
2 : the permanent installations required for military purposes
3 : the system of public works of a country, state, or region; also :
the resources (as personnel, buildings, or equipment) required for an
activity
The meaning you give, and the meaning as used in the Australian press,
seems only to fit meaning 2 or partly meaning 3.
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Well, it's the only meaning my 1964 COD gives, and it seems to fit the meaning
you gave as "now", as opposed to formerly.
The "New Oxford Illustrated Dictionary" (published in Australia, and so I take
it a reliable guide to OzE) has:
infrastructure n. Collective term for the fixed installations and facilities
necessary to support military operations, as airfields, naval bases, training
establishments, supply works, etc.; suppporting system of any organization.
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Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
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